PannySVHS

Sorry, but no matter what you think, I'm not trolling. People generally troll just to get a rise out of people and don't really have any interest in a topic. I genuinely have an interest in the artistic and technical aspects of filmmaking, and yes, I do have some strong opinions at times. 
So your usage of words like trolling and antics are not warranted here, at least not from my perspective. I chose the name Jedi Master because I like the Star Wars movies, not because of any felling of superiority. 
I'm not a professional filmmaker (far from it), so my opinions come from my own interests and research into the subject. I'm especially interested in the technical aspects because of my educational and professional background. I can speak authoritatively on subjects like signal processing, low-level hardware and firmware development, and the like, but cannot speak with professional authority on narrative filmmaking (but I can offer my opinion).

Widely accepted?! Oh God, where are you coming from?
Are docs supposed to be "strictly journalism"??!
I love these forums but I can hate them with the same intensity too for that perversion of democracy when we can see posters to write about something like they are an authority on some field when they have no clue about it, as far as they can show from their entries...
I'm sorry but it is what it is : )
And if no one says anything, at a certain point becomes old school or science made when not mainstream! LOL ;- )
 
Nothing personal though, you look like a nice guy, just misinformed, that's it :- )

(When you watch documentaries... Right. I get your point but)
are you sure of the remainder part? ; )
I was there the first time I watched this piece, a year later, same screening room, with the filmmaker himself, talking to him (in English : D) through a physical human translator : P... perhaps *cough cough* the greatest name of the documentary cinema since Dziga Vertov:
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/features/artavazd-pelechian-nature-seasons-poetic-montage
https://www.artforum.com/columns/artavazd-peleshian-193439/
https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2012/great-directors/artavazd-pelechian/
https://artreview.com/artavazd-pelechian-visionary-cinema-nature-seasons/
 
About his work and contribution, experts are used to produce content of more than 1-hour only to talk about his bigger than life "visions" of real ; )
 

Thank you for the info so basically metabons speedboster EF I can use my yashica lenses with adapter ?

Roger Deakins is a legendary dp of dps, a gentleman, craftsman, artist and scholar of cinematography. To insult him on a Dslm cinematography forum is a final unappetizing antic.
I suggest you enjoy some fresh air and calm down. Watch T1 and 2, if you want to witness 80ies and 90ies scifi greatness. Instead you watched the lame follow ups and many youtube camera recommendation videos. You then come to our forum as an unfamiliar guest with a familiar depreciative sound of writing, suggesting nonsense, implying to consume our earth to its vital limits.
I am not even interested in the question, if you have ever done anything in the field of cinematography or small passion projects or anything at all. I dont care. Please just stop your disgrace or leave like you came, this year of 2023.
You are a naked keyboard user after all.

Thanks @kyeand I should clarify that it was my bad for seeing all the hype around R5's IBIS vs the R5C's DIS and not taken the time to fully understand exactly what each system did/didn't do.
The thing is, when lens IS first came on the scene it was very clear why it was better than no IS at all.
And sure IS, IBIS and DIS at their core are all able to make a handheld static video shot feel like it's on a tripod - but where lens IS shines for my use cases is in the way it translates movement above a certain threshold to look natural/organic vs IBIS and DIS.
Had I fully grasped that IBIS was never going to give me anything better than DIS when it came to that particular aspect, I would've just bought another R5C and called it a day! But ah well, again totally my bad, tho it's not like the R5 isn't a great hybrid camera in its own right.

I'm not saying that any of these are better or worse overall, it's just that they work differently, and for any given situation the pros and cons of one method might be more beneficial than another method.  There will be situations where IBIS is the best, situations where OIS is the best, and situations where EIS / DIS is the best.  The same will be true for all the combinations too.  Throw in gimbals and sliders and cranes and you will still find that the answer of "which is better" will still depend on the circumstances.
I just posted because Ty mentioned he wasn't aware of the situations when IBIS is better than DIS, and so I provided an example.  There are examples where DIS is better.  It's like anything, there's nuance and the more you can understand this then the more you'll be able to optimise your own work.
Yeah, ROI doesn't really factor in to these discussions..   if it did, the answer would almost always be that the "Buy nothing" option would be best!
Or, if there is money to be invested, it would be better put into marketing or some other skill that can actually move the needle on the financial performance of your business.  The cold reality is that the quality of the product isn't actually the limiting factor in most small businesses, which is why the world is full of smooth-talking people selling things that are mediocre at best and driving around in luxury cars.
 

You're entitled to believe what you want but as man of computers you are, give this book a try:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Supremacy
By https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku
Take a look on the criticism over that work in specific... This is the problem of many people, they think they understand every other fields of the human knowledge ; )
«Some theorize that the universe itself acts as a vast quantum computer, “processing” the activity of its countless particles and forces from one end of reality to another. If so, as computers begin to more directly imitate nature’s own computations, new insights may open into physics, chemistry, and biology—even the architecture of the brain itself.
Yet mankind has not proven the best steward of such knowledge. On our path to learning more about how God’s remarkable creation works, we inevitably come to various crossroads regarding how we choose to use what we learn. Understanding God’s design of matter and energy has allowed us to harness the power of the atom—both to power our cities and to destroy them.
Understanding the strange, counterintuitive world of quantum mechanics will bring us to a similar crossroads. What decisions will we have to face when quantum computing is fully ours to wield however we wish? Will we have the character to properly apply what we learn from this aspect of God’s creation?»
source

Roger Deakins is a legendary dp of dps, a gentleman, craftsman, artist and scholar of cinematography. To insult him on a Dslm cinematography forum is a final unappetizing antic.
I suggest you enjoy some fresh air and calm down. Watch T1 and 2, if you want to witness 80ies and 90ies scifi greatness. Instead you watched the lame follow ups and many youtube camera recommendation videos. You then come to our forum as an unfamiliar guest with a familiar depreciative sound of writing, suggesting nonsense, implying to consume our earth to its vital limits.
I am not even interested in the question, if you have ever done anything in the field of cinematography or small passion projects or anything at all. I dont care. Please just stop your disgrace or leave like you came, this year of 2023.
You are a naked keyboard user after all.

Hahahaha... this is so stupid.
@zlfan you are the one that claims 24p is outdated, yet you are the one demanding that the majority prove you wrong with scientific evidence that 24p is more cinematic than 60p...
Sorry to tell you, but it's your claim, so the burden of proof lies with you to prove us wrong with scientific evidence.

Like @mercer has said, this is ridiculous.
There's two people in this thread who are making post after post about how 24p is old and wrong etc, and then there's the entire industry spending trillions of dollars a year shooting films and who have access to any camera they want and could shoot in any frame rate they liked, and yet they select 24p.
So, who is right?  Two internet keyboard warriors, or the entire worlds entertainment industry?
Please.
We did a survey, and you didn't win this "debate".

When the UK was in the EU, it used 25p too.
Following the overwhelming 4% landslide will of the people advisory vote to leave the shackles of the worlds largest trading bloc that also happens to be under 30 miles away, the sovereign UK was able to make its own rules.
Following Brexit, the pound devalued greatly against the dollar and Euro so that 25p was now only worth 23p.
Free from the Brussels overlords and WEF puppet masters  and defying economic reality, the UK therefore adopted 23p as its new standard.
However, there is a strong movement to exert the virtues of Brexit by exceeding anything that those banana straightened obsessives in the EU can do by going past their paltry 25p by a further 20%.
This movement is championed by an MP called Lee Anderson, deputy chairman of the Tory party, who is so identified with the quest that he is now known nationally as “30p Lee”.
You should google 30p Lee as he’s a big fan of alternative facts as well.

In the comments of the react video all the situation was explained.

"Hey Kai & Lok, Bloody producer here. First thing first the videos have bene restored (there’s a post on DRTV channel explaining what happened). Long story short, no one is monitoring the channel so things decay. I wish you’d reached out to me first, but I also understand why you do what you do. I haven’t been back to our old channel for years, and this certainly brought back memories. I still remember the hundreds of weekly meetings we had together, exchanging banters and ridicule each other’s haircuts. I remember our shared love for Top Gear, and Lok our shared Apple fanboyship. Those were the most fun 7 years I had work-wise, and I still miss those days a lot. I’m sure you’ll agree that those were also our most creative years, daring to think big (nothing compared to today’s Mr Beast era but those were some big ideas on YouTube back then!). I’m glad we got it going for so long. I’m also glad you guys continue carrying on making these videos. I have reached out personally and hopefully you got my messages. Would be happy to catch up whenever you guys are back in Hong Kong. Please do more of these reaction videos. I’d be the first one to watch! And thanks for bringing back my memories, and renewing the interest in our old channel and content. Cheers, Richard (Bloody Producer)"

After that, Kai posted:

"UPDATE: Good News! Thank you to the Richard/Bloody Producer and DR for making all the videos available again What also happened is that I ended up speaking to the Bloody Producer; he made the point - both publicly and privately - that he wished that we’d got in touch before publishing this video. But I want to clarify a few things first: First thing I’d like to say is that primarily this was made as a reaction video; the purpose of it is to SHARE the old content that we had on our hard drives with the public because it wasn’t available anymore, and hadn’t been for more than one month. Simple as that. Although the mystery of why they were taken down in the first place has since been explained by Richard/BP, it wasn’t our core objective to find out. Nothing shifty. We wanted to make the videos available for all to watch via a fair use/reaction video sort of thing. Another thing about Richard/Bloody Producer mentioning that he wished that I’d “reached out” makes it sound like we have been on good terms ever since and I simply didn’t want to mention it to him. The last communication we had was in 2016 when I didn’t sign the last contract and it was made quite clear how things were at that point and there’s been no communication up until now. Long story short: things haven't been cool between us for quite some time. We both have had chances to chuck out an olive branch at many opportunities, but ultimately didn't. I felt that we were releasing this purely for the sake of sharing content with you - the people watching - not to do the dirty on DR or to stir up a controversy. People have written about this news over a month ago; blogs asked me for interviews about it; Tony Northrup made a video titled “DigitalRev DELETED!” On 2nd November 2023 with over 80k views. If either Lok or I wanted to jump on the Hot Controversial News bandwagon, we could’ve done it much, much earlier. Alas, I have apologised to Richard/Bloody Producer directly for not attempting to contact him before hand. And the good thing is that, as Richard and I are both grown-ass men, we can talk again, bury the hatchet - let bygones be bygones - and just move on. And even more importantly: the videos are back online on the DRTV channel and, well, Richard/BP has encouraged us to make more reaction videos if we want, which is great because we really enjoyed watching those old videos together and I hope you have too! Thanks for the support, everyone! Love from Me"

I’d like to call a halt to buying gear but I’m seriously thinking about selling my Lumix S5 and getting an S5X to go with my S5Mk2. The user experience with the Mk2 is so much better than the Mk1. It would only mean spending 1000€. That and a Sigma 16-28 f2.8 and the Rode Wireless Pro. 
Oh, and sell my Macbook Pro 16” M1 Pro with 16gb ram as I made a big mistake there. 16gb ram is totally inadequate. I need 32gb at least. Expensive mistake.
So…fuck. That’s a lot of money😵‍💫

I think it's just about ROI.

I saw this video on YouTube a few weeks ago that could be useful for some of you guys to think about...
 

A little BTS of the short film:
 

Thanks for sharing.  You can really see how the puppy just didn't want to stop!

Clever ; ) Loved the sausages part! LOL : ) This is what a real production means as conforming creative choices to the stuff we have in hands... Well done again in this yearly tradition of yours, it will surely be appreciated by the local community :- )
¡Felices fiestas de Navidad!
- EAG

Gracias for your wishes, amigo, always welcome as usual!
To you too!
Emanuel :- )
PS -- Funny the style this year... any special reason for the slowmo and drone shots approach?

Hello to all EOShd members. I haven't been here much this year, but I consider this forum to be my second home. This year has been hard personally (divorce with young children) but we must continue in life with good spirits. So like every year (and it's been 6 now) I link you to my police Christmas greeting:
In the tech side it is Sony FX6 in UHD mode at 100fps (S&Q) and S-log, Hi Base Iso. Rokinon lenses. 
I hope you like it and I send you a hug.
Adiós Amigos!! 

Darn. I've been a member here for 8 years by now. But never have I given anyone a thumbsdown. You righteously earned all of those I could have had potentially given towards other nonsense before, dear og poster. What nonsensensical, arrogant and depreciative statements you've been coming up with just to feel being right. Your statement could have even been an attractive thesis for me to talk about with you. But your argumentation is without any respect for any good nor in the service of your claim.
"24p is dead". Maybe it is. Maybe not. Maybe 25p as here in  Europe is the current 24p. But no need to act up like a triumphator about it. Something like "Your old world is dying, let's  celebrate that." NOT.
That doesnt mean, you are not a lovely person with possibly an adorable filmmakers mind. But your statements are a long way to go from in order to be a good testimonial for a convincing positive assumption about you. Wasting our planet for consumption of 4k 60 video junk is not a thing to be goofy about. 8k 60p- like looking outside of the window. Let's look outside of our window for sure: the world is burning. No tolerance for most terrible display of ignorance and stupidity in behaviour nor speech.
"Thongs", "clothes forum", are you a chauvinist scared of thongs? Never seen a thong in your life or someone undressing a thong? I will do that now for a change. Seeing is believing.
So many people trying to provide awesome content here. So many good reasons to reason with THEM, because they make it possible. Never used capitals before. Oh, well..

Do F3 and F5s justify my words? LOL. Anyways, it is understandable, this is a camera forum.  
If this is a clothing forum, probably I have no right to speak out. 

there is no point using analogy of cars. probably you just took off from a steam engine train. enjoy yourself. people may think you are a fanboy. 

i guess on a clothing forum, the question will be "how many thongs do you have?" "no thongs, no freedom of speech." lol.