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16 hours ago, Ed_David said:

 

Cant wait to play them in kickball

Cant wait to see what you are referring to in my quote

59 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

The X-T2 and GH4 have extra crop factors in 4K due to their sensor readout...

Say the X-T2 extra crop is a 1.17x crop of a 1.5x sensor

What is the correct maths here? Is it -

1.5 * 1.17 = 1.75
Or
1.5 + 0.17 = 1.67

?

1.5 * 1.17 would be right and so a crop of 1.75

just like the speedbooster thing, just with a result into the other direction:

fi: crop 2 * speedbooster factor 0.71 = 1.42 crop on our beatuiful HD m43 G6 with FD China booster!

22 minutes ago, Mckinise said:

This defies conventional thoughts on the GH4 crop but I have been estimating it to be closer to 2.5 for DCI Cinema 4k and 2.6 for UHD based upon the calculations from this article:

http://gh4crew.co.uk/?p=460

FHD 1920×1080 (16:9 Full Sensor Width) crop factor = 2.18

 

That does not make the sense it supposely might appear to do so:)

FHD crop stays 2, because Full Frame 36x24 Sensor is cropped just as well from the top and bottom in 16:9 mode.

Also, FOV of a crop 2 doesn´t change to the sides just because off chopping off the top and bottom of the sensor for 16:9 mode.

So FHD crop factor stays 2.0 for calculating your equivalent FOV in 16:9 HD with your 24mm full frame lens

24 minutes ago, Mat Mayer said:

Andrew has deleted a link I posted to Philip Bloom on his YouTube before. So all is fair in love and links/war.

Most posts and links related to Philip Bloom are still on here. So it is completely different.

There has been great appreciation on this forum for Philip Bloom and his contributions to the video community,

and that just very recently as well.

That´s an intense move on Dpreviews side.

I enjoyed Dpreview back then, reading their reviews of m43 cameras or the first tiny 43 dslrs from Olympus, just enjoyable and rather laid back readings.

Heck, loved to browse through their database for the ultimate pocket camera, Canon g5 vs Sony v1:)

Didnt they get bought by Amazon a few years ago? That´s big and successful business involved, if you know what I mean by successful.

Intense move from dpreview- Amazon style.

A very ugly move.

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

How do they spend money against you?!?!

Wow, what is going on with them, I mean nofilm and such?

20 hours ago, mercer said:

So, you won it for $160?

No, I missed out on that one, also on a Kiron 24mm F2.0 for 77USD. Was filming test footage. You lose some, you gain some

Wrong headline. It is not a movie. Fellini, John Casavettes and others were moviemakers. Their outlook on the world was different from

the presidential candidates´ one. Their approach never mentioned "the greatest nation" of people on earth. At least aliens from other planets

would NOT (in caps:) fall under the category of the "LESSER great nations on earth".

So, are Fellini and Rosselini less than Scorcese? Marty wouldn´t state so.

EOSHD is a beautiful blog for filmmakers. Thread closed?

12 hours ago, bunk said:

In my experiene you should not use one speedbooster for severall mounts. 

I tried for my C/Y lenseses, Yashinon 45-135 and nikkors with a ef-mft speedbooster. In the end none of the lenses would reach infinity or stay parfocal. Once I found out the Yashinon is "parfocal" with a slight modified speedbooster, I kept the glass in the speedbooster fixed in that position. I then adjusted the C/Y lenses so they would reach  infinity ...which is a relative easy job with C/Y lenses. I'am pretty sure that if I mount those adjusted C/Y lenses on a dedicated C/Y speedbooster they would be way off.

 

Hallo guys,

thanks for contributing so much to this topic! @bunk Thank you for sharing your practical experience. If I summarize for my own conclusion:

-EF most flexible

-one booster for many mounts not without varying problems

-of the cheapo adapters, RJ is not the best, rather take ZY Optics/Zhongyi/Mitakon Lens Turbo,

this from @BrorSvensson´s experience

For the short run, I would like to mount Minolta MD glass on FD focal reducer. Anyone found an adapter for mounting MDs on FD?

Haven´t found anything. Flange distance is 42 for FD, 43.5 for MD.

1.5mm difference might be too short for an adapting solution though. Pretty sure of that.

cheers

35 minutes ago, BrorSvensson said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance here is a list of all the flange distances, all the once with longer flange distance than what you are mounting on works.

That is a great table to gain info from. Thank you. I´ve been checking that one out before. I highly value you guys´ practical experiences.

Handling a solution with one focal reducer for as many adaptable mounts possible. The wikipedia table gives info about the technical conditions.

You guys are the valuable source of the practical side of it. Has anybody tried adapting a Pentax or Canon FD lens to a Konica F mount?

1 hour ago, Cinegain said:

From the earlier days the R.J. Lens Turbo Nikon - M43 and dedicated FD - M43 too, but in some problematic situations you might end up with light bouncing around causing some blue/magenta spots to appear in your image. And I did have problems (that got solved by excellent customer service) with the FD glass, where the construction didn't really allow for it to survive the shipment and the optic elements came loose and started to scratch up.

Great to hear that, confirming my experience with the RJ in bright sunlight. Giving nasties in colors, a native m43 lens would not.

Actually it is not that great to hear that, if you know what I mean

1 hour ago, mercer said:

I read somewhere that you can use a thin MD to ef (no glass) adapter to a focal reducer and it works. Never tried it myself though. 

I think M42 will mount to MD too. Again no first hand knowledge. 

MD to FD would be very nice indeed for now, using my cheapo FD RJbooster with that beautiful 35mm 1.8 you had recommended to me!

Hallo,

I know I could google in an instant what flange and mounts go along.

Question is of the practical side though.

I´m asking for your pratical experience about the right mount for a speedbooster to use other

cheepo adapters on. So I put lenses of different mounts on one and the same speedbooster.

F.i. with an EF booster I could adapt Nikon lenses, M42s are adaptable on FD.

I would love to find a solution to mount FD, Minolta and Pentax on the same focal reducer.

Didnt find a no hassles way to adapt FDs to an EF mount, fi.

What are your experiences with an one 4 all mounting solution?

Thanks and cheers,

Marty

Hey @mercer!

These are some luscious greens! BTW went for bidding on that Minolta 35mm 1.8 you recommended. Went away for 160 USD.

Seems a great choice.

With the hoola hoop artist, I call her that, it was a documentary opportunity, so no follow up footage on that:)

But gonna post some Panny G6 grading b4 and after to get some more feedback on Panasonic 8bit colors.

cheers

16 hours ago, tupp said:

Friendly reminder:  avoid blocking the light fixture's ventilation holes when using blackwrap.  Leave plenty of room around the vents (both top vents and bottom vents) for convection:  cool air comes in the bottom; hot air goes out the top.

 

Hey Tupp,

oh boy, seems like you´re right. Just got started with the practical ways of lighting, not just making up my mind about theory.

Don´t even know right now, where the heat sink is of that light. It´s a so called red head. Maybe gonna post a screenshot or footage soon.

Thanks for sharing! cheers

1 hour ago, mercer said:

Yeah, I agree, I think the GX85 is a lot cleaner in the shadows than the G7. ISO 800, SEEMS, to be completely noise free at 1-2 stops under. Of course I have been exposing differently since I picked up the XC10. With the G7, I used 100% zebras to expose to the left, with the XC10 I learned quickly that you need to underexpose... Or expose to the center for best results.

Hey Merce!:)

So GX is even better in the shadows than G7? That´s something I would most certainly love to believe! Great news.

What do you mean exposing for the center? I most the time expose for the mids. Going close with the cam and metering with my cam.

Time to get a lightmeter, sekonic or something. Did some lighting last week for comparing G6 and 600D. If G7 and GX80 really

mean a quantum leap in the shadows compared to G6 would be awesome. For the comparision I must realise that 600D had more dynamic range

than G6 regarding to our maybe faulty setup. Maybe it is the lens, FD 50mm 1.4 on G6 VS Contax Zeiss 50mm 1.4.

I held a Oly EM10ii with additional grip in my hand a few days ago. When doing street photography I approached another guy running around with that beauty.

Felt awesome in the hand. GX85 in the stores didnt feel too great. Googled for a grip. Found this: J.B. Wood Grip. Looks like a nice addtion for the GX85.

Would still love to see a comparision between GX85 and G7 for lowlight and some shadows free of artefacts.

My G6 isn´nt the best performer shadow wise, otherwise beautiful cam.

A friend of mine and me did a lighting setup, kinda @andy lee style with beautiful gels, Orange Glow and Deep Blue, two 850w tungsten and one LED.

We compared her 600D and my G6. Canon color is still something, even when lit. But loving my G6. Starting to really love black wrap, flags and gels.

Great stuff for filming with the lower end bunch of cams. Very exited about the promises of Gx85 or G7 or XC10 or veterans such as F3 and such.

So again:

-GX85 vs G7 shadows would be great, hey throw in some G6 to show the generation gap and for the fun!:)

-Also, dual recording confirmation about internal and external recording please for the GX85.

-Another one, is there a grip for extending the height of the grip on the GX85? In the store it felt way too short for me. Met a guy with a Oly EM10ii last week with a beautiful extended grip. Awesome handling, really beautiful!

Here is a light from our setup to keep my post a little more interesting. I think BTS is a great thing on this forum, so maybe some lumix and canon faces next time.

EDIT: This bad mother or bad boy looks really funky!:)

So, Dali´s mustache anybody? Anybody has it?

Liam, did you get your hands on it? Nobody seems to be interested enough to participate in the discussion.

I think this looks like a beautiful oddity of software! With benefit for smaller and older hardware and laptops. And, it´s free.

The inofficial name "Dali´s mustache" couldn´t be any cooler! Common people, let´s get the odd gem mining started!!

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

My goodness, it just gets worse.

Whilst I was Italy I did read some of what went on and thought the community handled it brilliantly and thanks to my mods too like Andy Lee.

Hopefully we can move on from this guy and get back to sanity.

Moderators such as Andy Lee had the right timing and words for moderation up their sleeves.

It´s back to sanity thanks to all of you. What more can one say and assume. It has all been said in that super long thread for that matter.

It´s all back to sanity. And maybe I am not the only exited soul around here, eager to read about your filming journey, also some techy stuff about

the XC10, if that is not too geeky though:) About Italy, your experiences over there, everything! Would be just great!

12 hours ago, IronFilm said:

btw, I'd love to play a game of "guess the camera"... what do people think "This Giant Papier-Mâché Boulder Is Actually Really Heavy" was shot with?

Hey, why don´t you post it in the classic EOSHD GuessTheCamera fashion in a separate thread. It´s totally worth it! Hope your camera history

won´t be spoiling the guessing pleasure though:)

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

Canon have the colour-path and codec nailed to perfection on the XC10. I am also impressed with the dynamic range of the sensor, even in the most contrasty picture profile it rarely struggles no matter the light thrown at it.

I have also been enjoying the stabilisation, very impressive.

Shot for 3 weeks in Italy with it and editing now.

Yeah, Andrew, cannot wait to see the footage! Awesome! XC10 shown an "organic" image in the promotion footage with granddaddy chasing streetrobbers.

"..Color-path, codec, nailed to perfection.." sounds so cool. Forum contributor Mercer seems to have healed his GAS with the XC10- we will see:=)

Really exited to be on your awesome community!

To people thirsty for some more inspiration, just check out this cool EOSHD thread:

Very cool. Then we can grow Dali´s mustaches doing night shifts with grading:)

I mean the UI really looks too nice!

Seems interesting, really interesting. No need for cuda, running on weaker systems. Grain can be applied. From what I just read it was also available under

the name Dali´s mustache. Now it really is getting interesting. I want my Dali´s mustache!

Hey Liam,

Didn´t know there was a tool from Cliptoolz named Color.This tool looks too interesting to not to try it out. Haven´t found any working link to it though.

Maybe we should keep this thread alive.

52 minutes ago, Liam said:

cool, do you have a link? Their site appears to be dead

Hey Liam,

sent you a PM.

cheers

1 hour ago, Liam said:

I keep discovering interesting programs that have since died -_- this just seems like a place where I could put it out there and see if anyone is aware of a link or copy still about. Would be appreciated.

Happy filming

Hey Liam,

Cliptoolz is available for download in version 3.0.

Version 2.0 used to be for free but is now only available with limited functions.

On 6.7.2016 at 0:27 AM, a_reynolds said:

Hello. I've been following this blog since last year and it was such a big help to decide which serious video camera to choose! so, thanks guys.

I have a GH4 and today I got my first video freelance interview and that is something that my film school just isn't preparing me for. The job is to cover outdoors events, focusing on people. So I went out and grabbed some footage outdoors in direct sunlight.

Now, how would you, experienced people, grade this? 

I've been reading a lot of books and experimenting but just seeing your colours would really help mainly because of the skin tones. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/know5akvpklxzqv/P1010768_teste.mov?dl=0 

GH4, internal 4k UHD and Natural profile. 

THIS! is a very hard shot to grade. The examples on this thread show great dedication and good results. But I would say, this is not going to show any

color magic. Shot in CineD with further adjustments?

I choose a homogenous color palette for a logical balance of tones, to unify different tones and

to tame strongly saturated videoish tones, such as from the yellow sign or the red shirt.

But still keeping the skincolor logic and plausible within the overall greenish tint.

48 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

F3 is not getting any new updates, F3 has been able with its upgrade to do 444 for many many years now

I meant the newest Shogun update, enabling the Atomos Shogun to take a 12 bit 444 signal and record it:)

9 hours ago, jax_rox said:

F3 doesn't do HFR, and only outputs at max. res of 1080p. As an all-round (regardless of camera), a 7Q(+) or Shogun makes more sense, but if buying specifically for the camera (and on a budget), then it makes no sense to spend more on a recorder that has features you won't use.

With HFR I meant from 60p up to HFR heaven:) You´re right, for a specific F3 solution Odyssey sounds overkill, except from the 444 as Ironfilm stated.

Shogun and F3 for 444 is a combination to be tested by camera tech experts, if the 444 makes it into the F3.

Other than that Blade or BMD sound good, if I had to estimate by my internet infos:)

7 hours ago, IronFilm said:

But you were saying the Odyssey with the F3? & in that combo it is overkill.

As BMD VA & Samurai Blade already have SDI.

And F3 can't do raw or 240fps.

Absolutely. Would be interesting to know if Shogun gives a 444 out to the F3. So far with its newest update it is 12bit Raw for fs700, fs7, c500 and such.

Thanks for pointing BMD and Blade out for having SDI. Some knowledge I already took a chance of sharing in my reply to Jax_rox

44 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

7Q seems a bit overkill when there are cheaper recorders? Only good reason for it is it can maybe do 444 I guess?

SDI and HFR up to 240fps. Atomos Shogun has HFR up to 60fps plus SDI plus 12bit 444 RAW with its newest free! update.