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Love this part! Massive camera. So is the resolution. It really takes a while to get used to it. Even with super wide 20mm Canon FD at 2.8 it seemed hyperreal.

One little tip about super low light: Shoot that beauty beast at 4000 ISO and push it in post. Much better than using 12800 or 16000 iso! Was only using 8bit and the 72mbps 10bit mode, with the latter being much better in super lowlight.

Puh, I had to thank you for this before even read completely. I had been worried about the expense due to the current times. Bought it last year as my Christmas gift and have been struggling a bit. I took me a few talks and evenings with friends to really start to appreciate this camera. But these talks about lenses and my thinking about lens choices and FOV and all that gave me back that exitement. Awesome to be able to shoot with a beast like this. Putting a Unitor branded Soligor 35-70mm 2.5-3.5 zoom on there and cinema heaven is at your palms. Now all one has to do is to put it infront of the camera as well. cheers and thanks for all that inspiration all those years, @Andrew Reid

GH2 and EOSHD got me hooked to this way of filmmaking. Dpreview and Steve Huff with their reviews into the GF1 and EP2, two mft photo cameras. All three got me into gas. I thank you for that.:) I also remember Andrews article about Shane Carute and Upstream Colour. Would love to see that film in Bluray quality some day! Just read into the article again. It´s a gem: "Sometimes to crush the blacks makes what detail you still have in the lows more noticeable. A greater contrast and a greater tonality. Colt’s best move here was to increase fill lighting to bring up detail in the blacks but the colourist and camera maintained a punchy high contrast to the image."

@canonlyme I have the Tokina in the "Angenieux" F2.6 Version in Nikon mount. I loved the look from 2.8 (2.6) on, through all focal lengths. From my testing back then pretty consistent regarding colour and contrast. Unfortunately didnt get it to inifinity due to crappy adapter on my EF to mft focal reducer. Tested it again on my Sony F3 this week, perfect focus to infinty with a rock solid FZ to Nikon mount. Awesome! So, yes you can easily adapt it to the pocket. It comes in nikon, canon ef and minolta Amount versions. Nikon version is the only one with manual aperture afik. 200 for the Nikon version in good condition is a great deal. It is not even too hard to find. Would recommend a cheap NF to MFT focal reducer to really make it shine on you camera.

Darn, looking good. Top one looks especially good, very three dimensional. Rich tones. Awesome. Cannot wait to test and film myself. Picked mine up today after a long trip through Berlin with public transport. With topplate and baseplate, plus PL and Nikon mounts. Pretty camera to look at and to hold. EVF swifel seems weak and ND mechanics very placticy. Reminds me of an AF100. I really liked that one. I called my F3 my Sony AF100 today. Now I need to rent some PL glass. Hopefully soon. cheers and thanks to you and David to make me buy this camera! Got a shogun flame to hook it up with. So with the 444 update 60p might work too. What lens did you use?

@heart0less Hey, whats your name?:) Yes, hopefully people will find ways to learn to behave smart, calm, considering and supportive. Hopefully innovative economic processes and social fairness will develeop as well as needed. The free market shows its limits as a controlling tool for the needs and challenges of a recession of this kind. Parallel to practical and systemic needs we need to cherish our happiness as well. Was a pleasure to post this and happy that you liked it.:)

Hallo Andrew, these are the EOSHD gems, your library of articles! People of this forum have often talked about your classic articles. I bought a F3, PL mount camera for cheap, and discussion was again about older cameras, how some of them hardly go for low prices. The A cam Ikonoskop is a prime example of that or Digital Bolex, F3 is not of course. If you still have your Bolex, it would be awesome to see some footage again of Berlin the way you see it!! You know Rob from Slashcam? Super cool! HD-shop, they were distributor of the Kinefinety cameras I think. Bought an EF to MFT booster from them once.:) Back on topic. Ergos, picked up my F3 today, corona mask experience in Berlins public traffic. That camera is pretty as heck. But cannot say much other than how it reminds me of the Panasonic AF100. It is one of the coolest camera bodies I had the pleasure to mess around with a bit when a friend of mine bought one two years ago. Now I got my own Sony AF100 with a mix of external 444 glory. So, my pick, AF100. I will see how the F3 does in that regard.

hey friends, filmed made last may. but also did a quick one last week. so, here some pre corona single room fun:)

@Geoff CB Are you using one of the idts from Ampas, which one? So thats for the material stored in SLOG curve, right or linear uncompressed? Do you like the color equal stored in 422 and 444? Is it possible to output 444 and record 422? Guess I will see myself soon enough and come up with more questions.:) Would be awesome if you and Dave would post some footage if you get chance some time.

David, that´s awesome, so that means it´s a legit "Ironfilm Sound beast camera" then! Awesome! I didn´t find any TC jacks on my FS700! So Geoff, what´s your take on the image of the F3? I recognized that pans and tilts simply look beautiful with it and color and palette are beautiful. Now that David gave this camera its sound and Timecode credibility I am very happy about the purchase. My first real cinema camera. 444 with less than 400 hours on it, beautiful, PL and Nikon mounts included. Anyone want a FS700 with 4k out?

@IronFilm Hallo David, does the F3 allow full support of a Timecode based workflow like the S1H or other larger cameras? I am asking because the Fs700 does not have a TC jack and sofore was still subpar regarding Timecode, like you once stated. cheers

It is not my footage, unfortunately!:) It was shot by a Dutch DP I read. Gave me the last push towards the F3. Another deciding factor was a F3 - BM4K comparision on youtube. Something really tasty about the image. I think the BMPCC might not be going for little money again that soon, if at all. Digital Bolex won´t that´s for sure, Iconsokop camera never has nor will. The BMPCC is a beautiful simple body to hold and to look at with a beautiful image. It seems like it can become an object of irrational desire, so to say. A design classic. One advantage of my GAS is tol be able to compare both FS700 and F3 with internal and external recording. Does the F3 with 444 give a 60p 10bit 422 to a Shogun Flame? If not I will borrow my friends Odyssey. 444 and 422 comparison seems interesting. An akward feeling to have spent that much money these days. I am a bit sad about my greediness to be honest and not having given attention to my FS700. With the F3 it won´t be necessary to record external 4K for a cinema image and I can finally give my Tokina 28 70 some true love after three years. Sorry for my lamento.:) By the way, your images didn´t help me neither to resisit the F3 @Geoff CB

Indeed! They went below 300 USD just a while ago then, with batteries. And often below 500 with speedbooster, cage and batteries and are now up again at 500 with batteries! But mate, I need to read some kind word on my purchase, some more of that claim of that 444 beast of the mini alexa I should just have been happy with my FS700 plus Shogun. Instead both are catching dust. Are you using a F3? What is your take on it compared to a FS700? I turned into a weirdo by your guys´psalms about the "mini alexa". Guess I read Alexa Mini.:) @BenEricson

This thread didn´t help to stop me. As some long time forum enthusiasts @IronFilm might remember, I have been thinking about getting a F3 for a while. The term "mini alexa" didnt help me much for resisting. So I just bought an F3 with the 444 update for around 750 eu. It was 200 more than I was dreaming on spending as max. But then I was thinking, when will a 444 model come around again. Plus my FS700 gives 2K aliasing parade over SDI, so I would have to record 4K output to really make it shine. But then again, how long will I have to wait to find a deal on a 444 recorder.:) Crap, 750, these days, for a 1080p camera! Well, better than spending all on toilet paper. This video gave me the last push towards my weird purchase. Such beautiful colors. Darn, some talented people on this forum can achieves this look with a GH3 or a 5D3. Right? Anyone want a F3 with 444 output? I should stay away from dangerious threads like this one. cheers:) By the way, no cheap deals on the OG BM Pockets anymore.

@deezid Hey Dennis, how are your findings with the "smaller" of the two, with the S1 in VLOG and 10bit? Does it support VLOG in 25p to 60p in HD? How is the 10bit or especially 10 VLOG image regarding being organic, noise, smearing, digital sharpness? I find my S1 in its 8bit 709 modes super sharp and sometimes a bit paper cut like. It is a nice image in its own right but wow is the 6k to 4k downsampled image sharp! I was wondering if I had a super resolving performer with my Canon FD 20mm at 2.8!

😆 that is the curse of shooting too much lovey footage. I would love to share more. Would love, if people would share more of their own stuff. Maybe even shoot some for the topics of the threads they are involved in. Maybe then I should do that myself as well. We will see:)

Ah, now, thats the kinda talk. Much better than home or any other office.:) Which one? I am still thinking about a Panny HPX250, no ccd, but like a DVX100 Andromeda with its 10bit 200mbit codec, if around 500 EUR. Love the stuff people did and do with these older cameras. Too bad I never got to see what Kendy Ty did with a lumix GF1 back then. The creative exitement was much larger than owners pride. Absolutely right. That was inspiring and still is. Funny, I put my S1 aside, my FS700 with Shogun catches dust and my GX85 gets lotta use, enjoying right exporsure, tweaking WB in BW mode and timing and tuning framing and movement, sometimes feeling like Bela Tarr.:) I think these cameras back then inspired our own Chris Doyles and others within ourselves. Some of Andrews videos show a formal brilliance of these guys. The video craze as Márcio described it put the best out of the dreamers, nerds and image seekers back then. Here is an awesome example of "being nerveous about the camera":

Would love to see some footage. Have been experimenting with the special BW mode and high Kelvin numbers. Then grading the bw footage. Looks like Bela Tarrs 35mm film stock. In my imagination.:)

Your Tokyo-Blade Runner short is still one of my favorite videos from the older times of large sensor camera craze. It is still making me wonder, if I should get a GH2. Your Digital Bolex video you filmed in Schoeneweide, supberb... Hard to believe how Berlin has changed even in last five years. Always gives me chokes when I talk to about it. My buddy and i did a minidoc about a our friend who was selling poems in Mauerpark, a short piece with a twist. I was gonna send it to you, when the heat was on in the corona thread. Anyway, I would be very happy if you would allow your compositions to shine with more than just one frame and if you would film your beautiful compositions with the FP and the Dream Lens.

this thread is getting bloated. Why not carry off topic ventures into to the realm of PM, at least after the 20th repost of ones own thesis on colour science. Why not rather shoot some footage with a GH1-5, Canon 550-750d, 5Diitoiv, fujis, nikons, BM cameras and so on. So much to be tested and discussed.

I second that. Some of these gorgeeous landscape shots as moving images! The photographic attributes and qualities of the cinema(tic:) image. Miss your shorts, Andrew, as they always gave an appetite for going out and filming stuff with direct and accessible approach. Your GH4 videos, BMCC, G6, GH1 wedding, GH2 in the temple and Tokyo, great stuff! Love your Berlin videos, which give us great memories, how this city has been until even only a few years ago, motivating to go out and explore the city. I love these old timer videos, showing off what you and others were capable of creatively. Maybe these older cameras will become objects of desire and tools for the "Filmkunst" again, making a come back. Or maybe they won´t. Who knows. I think your videos show quiete a variety of subjects in an individual, non generic way. Cannot wait to see what you will be up to next. More Oly EM10III footage? Well, maybe it is to hard to go back to the oder tech, but would be sweet if these cams would keep the warm spot in your heart they have had over the years. For a start, so of my thoughts. Now, you guys, keep on suggsting and contributing. Exited to read your posts in this thread!

Those wide shots are especially otherworldly! Beautiful compositions and perfect use of bokeh! Congratulations, Andrew!

Holy wholeness! A whole lotta videos posted in this thread. That 8k gives some nice 1080p uploads on youtube. And the video of the portrait mode shows how it makes the model smile. Also, great quality for 720p I must admit.

@Seb Farges how about this beautiful video of yours? You had it up on vimeo with description: Aivascope on GH4. Wow! Awesome images with beautiful compositions and hues!