PannySVHS

Hallo!

I talked to somebody about the Sony F3 and was told it delivers 10bit over SDI out of the box right away.

I´ve been under the impression a paid update from Sony is needed to get 10bit 4:4:4 and SLOG2, for 899 USD.

So is it true that 10bit over SDI is already available without the update or is it necessary to buy the update to get real 10bit?

Would that out of the box 10bit option be 4:2:2 then vs the paid update with 444 and SLOG?

cheers

Hallo Jase, I put my 50cents on the GX7. Nice clean HD and natural colors, GX7 mojo. Always wanted to get one but went for a G6 instead.

Hey Merc!

One thing I recognized, I had to be pretty careful with the color sliders on the Cine D file. Also, light in this scene seems challenging to pull something magical out of this file. We nerds love to talk about thick colors when it comes to the technical side of the digital pipeline. I think thick light would be just as much appreciated. These dull winter days don´t often provide that at them moment. I think one can immediately recognize the magic glow of light by eye. Not talking about magic hour but the very different beasts of light depending on time of the year, day, haze, dust, sandstorm:), region,  whatsoever...:)

Hey Mercer!

thanks for the material. Went for a quick one on the Cine D in PS. So maybe the layers would work the same in Premiere. Did color balance, gradation curve, exposure and alpha with the blue channel as softlight layer on top. I would say light in this particular scene didnt really provide that much magical nuances to pull out of the file. Looks like shot on natural profile. So why not just film in natural anyway:)

Did some quick color balance of the original ooc shot in PS. Worked very well. Maybe in Davinci next time I won´t go all that crazy on the color wheels, exposures and layer mode but rather put some simple gentle touches on the color sliders. Still a little off but enough for now:)

7 minutes ago, Cinegain said:

From the original ungraded one. Messed around in photoshop with color balance for RGB values individually for highlights, midtones and shadow. Then add another adjustment layer for exposure. Just eyeballing. It's nicer if you actually do the grading in FCP/Premiere or Resolve with waveforms/scopes, but since it was a still I went for quickly adjusting it that way. Indeed it was more of a recovery according my taste of what I feel the scene might've been like. Taking in as well a gloomy cold winter day and trying to convey that feel just a little.

But yeah, I fell in love with the GH2 and am still true to Panasonic MFT as my main choice of gear. Although that might change soon with the arrival of the A6300 which I'm really tempted to get. I never worked with Sony material before, so it will be interesting.

 

You really nailed the gloomy mood of the day. I am kinda amazed that a little color balance would get so much out of this H264 file. Learned so much today. Thanks a lot! Now I can go crazy on the screenshot with the channel mixer in PS:) cheers and good night:)

7 hours ago, mercer said:

You pulled that back nicely. What lens were you using there, Panny? Also, since the WB was set to incandescent, you have the perfect recipe to try a day for night shot. Would like to see how that would look. And yes, I have got to give natural a good test. I know I am in the minority, but every time I take out my G7, with the intention to test other profiles, I end up with cinelikeD dialed in. 

Hey mercer, thanks:) Was going for a more stylized look. Day to night wouldnt hurt to put up some night like lights for sculpting the scene. Other than that low exposure and done:) Scene was shot with a Canon FD 50mm 1.4.

7 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Dunno, looks kinda off (here). I'd personally like it more somewhere in this general direction:

 

Hey, that is a very nice approach. I was falling into the redish and hazy contrast too much:) Wanted to promote the idea that the GH4 would be indeed a very liable decision, showing what a G6 under extreme conditions is capable of. Maybe thatfore my "intense" grade:) Did you pull the grade off the ungraded or the graded shot?

5 hours ago, André Eriksson said:

Was bored and did some grading, with a slight warm touch. Nice grain from the camera.  

I would really like to learn how to remove the blueish hue from the tree branches in the sky...

 

 

Hey, with Cinegain, you (and me as well:) we got some nice looking filmic gestalt out off that G6! So one more proof that G6 and GH4 more so

are pretty gradeable. Bluish hue from branches could be eliminated in Davinci by combining a Hue vs Hue via colorpicker and a mask for protecting the rest of the scene.

6 hours ago, Geoff CB said:

Get a 750w to be safe and future proof your rig. For your setup 420W is way WAY to low. The GTX 970 can draw 300w under load by itself, not including the power needed for the CPU and drives!

Thank you for your comment and help! Yeah, have been thinking it was a 650W.:) Do you have a recommendation for a power supply? HD h264 and 200mbit Prores proof.

Also for a reliable monitoring software?

@cantsin Thank you for putting things into the right perspective. Thank you very much! Gonna get another power supply!

1 hour ago, cantsin said:

System shutdown under high CPU/GPU load means, almost with certainty, a hardware problem. Most likely, your power supply is too weak, or the cooling of your PC is insufficient.

Hey!

Thanks for your help and advice! Never had a problem with native H264 editing, but in Davinci with Prores and h264 as well.

That was either with optical flow activated or too high of a bit rate with Prores HQ f.i, also with many nodes.

So it might rather be a power supply related issues much rather than heat issues from GPU or CPU.

I´m guessing so, because it doesnt take much time until shut down. Power charge would be a quicker parameter too rise through the roof,

much faster than temperature.

And finally I checked my power supply. Never did, as I was assuming it was 650W!:)  But it´s a 420W, it´s a LC Power LC420H!

So 650W would be fine for HD and Davinci? Any monitoring software showing my the complete power consumption of the system,

GPU plus CPU? Thanks guys for being so helpful!

1 hour ago, sam said:

 Overclocked?  My old i72600 would also shutdown on  renders until I returned to a stock clock speed.

Hey Sam, didn´t overclock. And, thanks to your advice, I won´t in the future!:)

Hey Nick and Ebrahim,

thank you guys for your very profound advice. I will follow it. Thanks!

Hallo Stewart,

thank you for your reply and valuable input- makes sense, should be a problem with the Operating System.

So how can I "super-uber-totally":) back up my Resolve database? I´ve read, once Resolve 12 is installed

all the projects and color presets from version 11 are gone! So that would be still a reason for me to hestiate quiet a bit.

If OP is the problem, it seems like a rough case though:)

8 hours ago, Ebrahim Saadawi said:

 

And no worries, GH4 4K flat images can be pushed to any look you want, very solid, especially with neat-video to use when the image breaks up here or there (occasionally happens with any camera)

Hey guys,

Yesterday I did some grading to relax- it´s still cold ouside, so nothing better than to enjoy some tea in front of Davinci:)

I came across a very underexposed and wrongly white-balanced shot. Filming was done with the Panasonic G6 in Natural all -2 but color at 0.

I think, quiet amazing, though some posterization and false color cannot be ignored! So I bet GH4 would be a fantastic camera in many ways and

natural is a tested and well received profile.

Hey Stewart!

thank you for your answer!

Still using V.11.3. Usually using a transcode to Prores LT or HQ. Computer shuts down with HQ just doing playback without any nodes after a little bit of editing.

Other than that it shuts down when doing 25% playback speed with optical flow.

Hallo, wouldn´t have assumed a LUT:) Lookin great. Doin some grading with my G6 at the moment. Codec ist quiet robust. Bet the G7 is pretty awesome!

Focus lever sounds like a good idea. Wouldn´t assume Christopher Doyle used a focus puller on Chungking Express but on Hero he surely did:)

3 hours ago, mercer said:

A couple weeks ago I ordered the RMC Tokina 35mm f2 in the M42 mount. It was the first time I had ever seen the lens for sale, and there is little written about it online. I did manage to find a couple photos where it was used. They looked so good, I had to have it. It came in the other day, so I took it out this morning for a few minutes...

 

Hey Mercer,

Really like the colors you were able to pick up with the grade, last part seems a little bit dark compared to ungraded material.

Grade looks really filmic, rich colors, naturalistic, not LUT mud like:)

How did you manage to hold the lens so steady even with focusing? Did you use a speedbooster for a wider angle of view?

cheers

Hey guys!

My school wants to buy either an URSA min 4.6K, duh:) Or a FS7. What kind of setup do you guys recommend for the FS7:

-strong HQ shoulder rig (Zacuto, Lanparte maybe)

-EVF

-Vmount and battery

-tripod plate

-follow focus and so on?

Asking for a nice setup for cinema shooting, with good quality- price balance. Thank you all for having been so helpful all the time.

This is a great place with many very inspiring and super cool people.

cheers

Hallo dear community,

Davinci is giving me great pleasures and pain. I absolutely enjoy this beautiful freeware programme (Lite Version:)

My computer is a nice and cheap setup for HD and Davinci. I7 2600K, 16GB Ram, system SSD, 7200rpm HD, GTX 970.

A lot of times my computer all of the sudden shuts down when I´m rendering with some optical flow clips in the timeline.

Also shut down appears when I´m messing with 200mbs clips in HD. The same with 4K footage from XC10.

Temperature of the Geforce never hits 60 degree Celsius. Help, advice or moral support:) is very much appreciated!

This is driving me nuts. No problems with my cheap piece of editing software Videopad I paid 80 euro for.

cheers and thanks

Let the fun continue!:) Thanks for the great challenge! I´d say GH1 with a 35mm Cmount lens.

6 hours ago, Ebrahim Saadawi said:

What many forget is that an FD version is available so some super cheapo 100$ish e-bay set-ups are:

-Canon 24/28mm F2.8 Primes (17/20mm f/1.8 s35 lenses) 

Hallo Ebrahim and everyone,

I´ve been searching for a 28-70 zoom with constant F2.8 in FD mount and I found a Sigma one

but never had a chance to come across one of these on Ebay.

Info on it is very rare to almost none.

Anybody got their hands on one of these or knowledge about it?

http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_2084.html#

BTW, we did a short with the Canon FD 28mm and a China speedbooster on the G6.

Nice setup and great price.

19 hours ago, bunk said:

Could you share a non graded file or an image from such a file, with such thin colors + info what picture profile was used ? I would really like to take a look. Thanks.

Hey guys!

Check out Andy Lee´s post about the footage he shot with the G7 on natural. Looks sick, thick and not thin at all! LX100 might look similar on natural

with skillful lighting and grading! Though sensor and lens are not the same. Here is a taste of Andy´s footage.

I felt so smart. Now I feel like a smart ass!:)

4 minutes ago, Zak Forsman said:

hmm... i wonder...

Are you kidding me!:) Give us some moving pictures of that footage, some little teaser, Andy! This looks awesome! How did you meter/measure the light within the limited dynamic range of the G7? Is this all your Bourne lens magic?

11 minutes ago, andy lee said:

I use Natural (contrast -5 and saturation -5) and I store it as CUSTOM profile 1 .....leave the NR and Sharpening at 0

yes you dial the colour back in in post ,Im shooting alot of night interior scenes in this movie on sets and I want to record a much shaddow detail as possible , I dont want crushed blacks in camera . so contrast and saturation are -5 , it works great this way . I shot a whole moive that way last year and we got superb results with it.

 

this was shot Natural (contrast -5 and saturation -5) with the colour dialed back in in post /grade. all that detail in the actors uniform would not be there with crushed blacks in camera .

13 minutes ago, Phil A said:

Well, seeing how it says #bmpc4k in the Vimeo link I would follow Elagabalus on Blackmagic Production Camera 4k :-P

Lol. Funny as hell! "7DII, pretty clean HD", huhuh!:)

9 hours ago, AaronChicago said:

My plan was to rent an FS700 this weekend but I found 2 amazing deals and just went for it (used). I bought Shield's FS700 with 2 Metabones adapters. Also bought the Odyssey 7Q with RAW bundle, and 2 512GB SSD's for $2400.

Cool! Can´t wait to see you shoot some beautiful footage with it.

Really enjoyed your VLog and C100II shorts and tests. Where did you get that deal on the Odyssey with 1Gig of SSDs? Did you buy used?

You gonna forget about the GH4 Assasin combo?

8 hours ago, ntblowz said:

With Odyssey you can use Samsung SSD since the update from july last year, so media cost is actually the same for Atomos and Odyssey

Cool! Are you sure about that? Sorry for questioning. Should have done my research maybe!

I just really consider you guys my research partners by communicating with one another!:)

Hey,

beautiful Trailer, moody, sincere, coming of age intensity and melancholy!

Grade looked maybe a little bit stronger towards an orange and teal touch in certain parts.

I´d say 7DII, pretty clean HD and nice colors, S35 look.

Hey guys!

On the Atomos site is an announcement for a Shogun Firmware Update to version 6.6, for Q1 2016, promising CDNG.

One thing to consider is the cost of media. Shogun takes normal SSDs, Odyssey needs media from Convergent Design.

cheers