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  1. 1 hour ago, stephen said:

    S5 can shoot 5.9K internal but with time limit and in 10bit 4:2:0 h265. This codec is difficult for editing, so I never use it. 4K is good enough for me.

     

    Sadly, S5 is limited to 5K internal, this is the "6K" photo mode but the resolution is "only" 5184x3456 with no way to use things "like IBIS Boost". Only the S1 can do 6K and 5,9K internal.

  2. 1 hour ago, Django said:

    Interesting, well looks like even the mighty S1H has got some pretty glaring limitations..

    At 6K 3:2 mode the S1H has a whopping 29.7ms of RS. Barely usable outside of locked shots.

    Anamorphic shooting aside then, it is certainly possible to compare (16:9) IQ:

    S1H has 5.9K. A7IV has oversampled 4K from 7K.

    In 16:9 4K/5.9K RS averages at 24ms. That's about what the A7IV does.

    10-bit is 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2. Win for the A7IV.

    4K60p is cropped on both.

    Sony has latest-gen PDAF with tracking vs contrast AF.

    Sony has SLog3 & S-Cinetone profile. Not sure about the Panasonic.

    Anything else concerning IQ?

     

     

    I prefer to get 5,9K and 6K open gate than 4k oversampled to 7k. Furthermore, I don't know about the A7IV but the A7III and A7SIII have massive noise reduction, I think the A7IV will have the same. The IBIS on Sony is almost useless, it depend if you use your camera for run and gun, but the S5/S1/S1H are miles ahead for stabilization. About LOG, Panasonic has VLOG, DR and colors are top-notch

  3. 19 hours ago, IronFilm said:

    I was a bit worried that this thread hadn't mentioned Panasonic yet!

    Don't base your judgement of Panasonic autofocus on say old GH3 era experiences, it is a hyperbolic exaggeration to now call it "terrible".

    The G9 / GH5mk2 / S5 / etc are all top notch video autofocus if you were to ever compare it against that past. If they'd came out back then, people would've been blown away by Panasonic's autofocus and been praising it to the highest extent!


    And the pricey Panasonic lenses doesn't matter, as Sigma is there too. 
    L Mount really does have all the bases covered:
    1) high end luxury premium lenses with Leica 
    2) high end but practical lenses with Panasonic 
    3) mid range priced lenses with Sigma 
    4) low end cheapies from China with manual focus lenses (half a dozen lenses priced sub $400 on B&H alone, and it is still early days, more to come soon for sure)

    I love Panasonic, I have the GH5, S5 and S1 with very good lenses. The S Pro lenses are magnificent and the S5/S1 image quality is great. However The AF is just bad, even with the firmware updates. Even the old NX1 is faster in video.
     

  4. On 6/24/2021 at 1:56 AM, Silenkiller said:

    I think you are confused a bit. He is a gear reviewer from a purely technical standpoint and probably the best there is on YouTube. Can't even begin to understand, what is so hard to understand, about that one.

    I watched two reviews from him. The Panasonic Leica 10-25mm and the Sony A7SIII.
    On the first video, he said the Sigma 18-35mm with SB had faster AF than the 10-25mm.
    On the second video, he said the 4K of the A7SIII was sharper than the A7III.


    Why not ...
     

  5. 1 hour ago, seanzzxx said:

    @Beritar the OP stated they're using a Pocket 4k, which does have a native DCI 4k sensor, so your remark is not really relevant to them (just to avoid any confusion ahead of time).

    Yes, my mistake. Thank you for pointing that out, I never used the Pocket 4K. I thought it was the same process.

  6. I remember Andrew and a german site said DCI 4K was slighlty softer than UHD on the NX1 (and GH5) because the size of the sensor used on DCI 4K was a bit smaller than UHD. However, the rolling shutter must be a tiny bit better on the DCI 4K, again because of the size of the sensor used with DCI 4K.

  7. 14 hours ago, Video Hummus said:

    Panasonic should release a S5S (lol) with Sony's 12MP sensor in A7SIII but without a mechanical shutter and a internal ND solution. Throw in some kind of internal RAW of some kind and it will be attractive vs A7SIII even without Sony level AF.

    With a good telephoto it can take great pictures. But, I agree. Panasonic should make a future video centric camera more like a FX3 than the GH5S.

     

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    Great pictures, Pana Leica 50-200mm ?

  8. 9 hours ago, Thpriest said:

    Anyone used both the S5 and the Sony A7Siii? My heart says S5 as an upgrade from the GH5 but I have a client who only uses Sony and having a Sony could mean more work. But I've hardly ever seen anything that I like shot on a Sony DSLR (colours and texture). Whilst I'm loath to have 2 systems I'm thinking of maybe just getting an A7iii with a Tamron 28-70 to get work with this particular client (agency with lots of clients) and getting a S5 for my own jobs for my clients (events, weddings etc). Other than the AF on the Sonys (amazing) I'm just not convinced they are better than Panasonic.

    I'd be selling all by m43 gear (GH5, GH5S, loads of lenses etc) and would take advantage of being able to discount all VAT.

    Any thoughts are helpful!

    90% video 10% photo. Lots of run and gun and I like to get everything right in camera for minimal tweaking in post.

    I used the A7SIII, the S5 and the S1. I returned the SIII because of the noise reduction, colors, IBIS, MP and sharpness.
    I don't need the 120fps 4K 1.1x and the fast AF-C. My S1 and S5 with the S Pro 2.8 have very fast AF and good enough AF-C. And even if Sony has more lenses I prefer the Lumix ones. I had/have the 24-70mm GM, 70-200mm GM and 50mm Zeiss Sony 1.4, the Lumix Pro equivalent lenses are better (sharpness, bokeh and 3D pop).


    About the S5, it's a great camera, but the S1 is even better (slightly better IBIS, better EVF, 6K internal next year etc ...) !
     

  9. 51 minutes ago, TomTheDP said:

    It’s a camera that uses strong noise reduction. Not something you’ll see with Arri or RED or anything made for Cinema. Of course it works if you want a super clean image. Not very organic looking though.

    I agree, I had the A7III and noise reduction was very strong. I tried the A7SIII one month ago and even if the image is cleaner, there is still a lot of noise reduction. My S5 and S1 keep more details (although noisier). 

  10. 26 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

    ...and a few days later, I'm keeping it after all.

    In fact, a pair of them are going to be my main workhorses as I intended.

    I have been trying to find a workaround and not just a 'kidding myself' fix, but something genuine.

    I looked at both the HC-X1500 camcorder and the bridge camera (for my static manual and occasional but important AF needs) but just know that based on my current 1" sensor Sony camcorder, the footage is going to be shite. And it's still contrast detect, so nah.

    Back on to the stage comes a used XT3 body and I already have a Fringer and 17-50mm f2.8 Sigma so for all my static manual focus needs, et voila and for the 1 minute or so on each job when I also need AF, et voila encore.

    As I may have said before, I love this camera (the S5) in every way except the weird pulsing in AF mode but otherwise there is something just 'right' about it. That combo of size, weight, ergos, dials, buttons, operation and of course quality of both video and stills files.

    Just need some projects to use the bugger on now...

    I love the S5 as well. Coming from Sony FF , it's nice to have good IBIS and to get ride of the ugly noise reduction at high ISO. And the 50mm PRO is the best 50mm lens I have ever owned (even better than Sony Zeiss Planar).

  11. 50 minutes ago, Trek of Joy said:

    At the expense of much worse rolling shutter, laughably bad AF in 2020, a downspec EVF, no raw, few native lens options and so on. The L-mount has a ways to go before its a competitive system with the E-mount and it doesn't look like they're ever going to get the AF sorted. Pretty much anything can produce a great image these days, if you need more than just a body, Panasonic FF is the worst choice among the big players - far behind Sony, Canon, Nikon and even Fuji. 

    Cheers

    Chris

    There is advantages and disadvantages on both cameras (the S5 will get the 5.9k raw update too), in the end it's about user preference. As an hybrid shooter, I much prefer the S5. 

  12. 18 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

    @Dave Maze I think S5 puts out a better image for half the price in a prettier body. Now I wanna see your face drool all over that beauty. 🙂 

    Camera 1 is Alexa, right! I betcha!  Well, you guys watch yourself and guess.:)

    No doubt about the better image, better IBIS too.

  13. 22 minutes ago, deezid said:

    Yep, like expected. The A7s3 looks quite garbage in comparison to the Canon R5/6 and Panasonic S-series.

    Sony didn't really update their horrible processing since 2015. 

    Luckily for Sony, they have some popular Youtubers with biased reviews.

  14. 10 minutes ago, hyalinejim said:

    They're all relatively wide shots, so not too taxing for IBIS. As long as you're using it to steady handheld shots, like here, I'm sure it'll be fine. But Wong's videos show that it's just not a substitute for a gimbal in the same way that a GH5 or S1 might be - if you really need to do a walking shot but don't have a gimbal.

    I'm impressed by the highlight retention in the market scene - mixed light, low light and garish light sources that tend to blow out are all handled nicely and it looks very natural.

    Me too, I really like the dynamic range of these Panasonic FF cameras. About the IBIS, Gerald Undone used a 50mm without walking on his video and the footage looked jerky.

  15. 15 minutes ago, Davos said:

    No 4K 60 10 bit. No All-I. Instant show stoppers for me. This is before you get to the AF which just doesn't cut it these days. Plus the IBIS doesn't look great, given they're targetting this at vloggers with flippy screen and size, another miss.

    I agree with Gerald Undone's assessment that it's a strange combo - will ultimately support anamorphic but no 4K 60 10 bit and All-I?

    Missed opportunity all round. Strange choices by Pannasonic. As an aside the leaked specs didn't match up.

    Based on the video, the S5 IBIS is worse than the S1H but seems good enough. The A7III is helpless though ...

    I would like to see a comparison between the GH5/S5.

  16. 5 hours ago, dgvro said:

    Sorry, I forgot to explicitly say I don't mean anything to do with lens OIS whatsoever. Just IBIS - just in-body.

    And I don't buy into the rated X.X Stops specs stuff since that just doesn't tell much of a tale at all for video, as I discovered with my XT4, it certainly has a bunch of "Stops of stabilisation", but their quantised and robotic way of moving the sensor ruins many of my video shots.

    So I'm still sort of wondering - is the S5 better than the S1/H in this regard and were those any better than the GH5?

     

  17. 10 hours ago, SteveV4D said:

    I'd hold off on buying a used S1 now.  Something tells me there will be a few more on the market soon and this will drive the price down further.

    S5 has the same dust and water proof resistance as the S1, its just not as capable in freezing cold conditions according to reviews.  

    Whilst improved AF is coming to the S1, I doubt it will be to the standards of the S5, as the camera hardware was designed for this improved AF, whereas the AF is just getting some software improvements.

    Is the IBIS better on the S1.  I've seen different and conflicting reports on that, some say the same, others say not as good.

    S5 will by the end of the year output 5.9k, albeit via a crap HDMI port.

    If I bought either the S1 or S5, neither would be A cameras.  More B or C depending on needs.  So the limitations aren't a big deal.  I would need to see how the overheating performs in real world cases before deciding.  If it does manage 30 mins and can quickly record afterwards, then its not a deal breaker for me.

    Yes I would like to see a comparison between the S5 and the GH5 IBIS. 

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