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3 minutes ago, kye said:

Maybe a Digital Bolex D8, but maybe not.  The list of redeeming features of the digital bolex wasn't just a single item about being able to get shallow DoF.   Imagine if the ML guys decided to make an open-source camera on this platform, where anyone could develop the algorithms to process the RAW image data coming off the sensor..  @Sage or @Juan Melara having full control of the colour science, debayer algorithms, etc.  Dual exposures for high DR, and all manner of computational photography options.  Think of all the cool things that smartphone apps can do that your video camera can't do.  This could enable all that stuff and more.

It would make a pretty good form-factor too, especially for places where it's difficult to mount anything, etc.  

Exactly. I'm think ML style digital 8 action camera. I'd make a little waterhousing for it, it would be amazing.

I saw this, made me excited to try and make a Raw action camera. Is raw video 60fps possible?

no

3 hours ago, no_connection said:

Both have crushed blacks (black point below 0) so you can move black level a bit. It does add contrast and "punch" to an image/video and is quite popular to do. Even if it makes my skin crawl every time I see it.

How to spot it? Look at the grass and tree, hair or any other area similar to that. If it gets more saturated the darker it gets the black point is below 0.
You can see her face just pop in saturation like crazy and legs stick out unnaturally much. You could fix it by decreasing saturation towards dark areas and take some care not to have weird things happen.

Maybe she just used a lot of fake tan? 😀

1 hour ago, Cliff Totten said:

We have been seeing these R5 prototypes out there for a couple of months now. Maybe with the final R5 production model, Canon will sneak in a proper cooling fan? Without that, I don't see how Canon can do this 8k/4K properly. The Canon C200, C300, C500, C700, all REDs, All BlackMagics, Sony FS5, FS7, F5, F55, FX9, All Varicams, EVA-1...and S1H have cooling fans to control sensor and processing heat in 4k/6k/8k. If the R5 really can do all that they say it can with no line skipping and/or pixel binning.. .in a passive cooled body? That would make the R5...THE..greatest electronics engineering marvel that man-kind has ever seen! Absolutely no question at all! It will literally make all the fan-cooled Canon Cine models look foolish. (And any other fan cooled 4k/6k/8k camera too) Hmmm...or maybe it's just me that is foolish for expecting all this incredible R5 8k/4k 10bit and raw capability to be fan cooled in 2020.

I'm telling you guys....the devil will be in the details, asterisks and fine print that Canon will only reveal the day this camera actually hits the streets and all NDA's are expired.

Zcam doesn't have fans for cooling... one of the many reasons I purchased one.

What's the go with all these Youtube videos with youtubers getting all excited about 8K RAW? I mean most of them don't even deliver Youtube in 4K, let alone 8K... Are all these people paid by Canon or what? I mean there isn't even any footage out there yet! hahaha.

R5 sounds like a great camera, don't get me wrong, but 8K RAW is a moot point for most people out there, even those who actually make films for a living. I'm really keen to see what the R6 delivers, R5 just seems like unnecessary overkill for my uses (I shoot for a living).

7 hours ago, Patrick B. said:

I picked up a used E2 so I need to compare WDR mode. I saw someone post a dark interior shot in the Z Cam FB group using that mode where the window was able to be kept from blowing out. It seemed impressive. 

If 180shutter isn't needed (or you don't have fast moving camera of subject then you can actually use 180shutter), it's a really good tool, the extra DR is noticable, but too be honest most of the time I just shoot in regular Prores 48fps Zlog2 which still has great DR if you ETTR properly. I've also gone back to using my EOSm for MLraw, which mixes great with the Zcam colour science. I have a GH5 as well which is still a very good camera, but I find it much harder to match it to the other two.

On 9/16/2019 at 12:12 PM, KnightsFan said:

It's a nitpick, but it's not exactly worse rolling shutter. It's that two shutter speeds are measured simultaneously, so the motion blur isn't natural. It's just like overlaying a shot with 1/48 shutter with a 1/200 shutter; the motion blur is like a "half frame" compared to the rest of the image, because you only get a blur from the 1/48 version.

Which is why they suggest you use 1/200 shutter speed or higher, so these effects aren't noticed. If you use a high shutter speed it's actually a pretty good feature.

Magic Lantern also has a Dual ISO feature also. It reads out alternating lines at different ISOs and combines them into one image.

8 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Has anybody tried taking the IR cut filter out of their GX85 yet

I did for the EOSHD low budget camera challenge

I broke mine but second attempt went well on a body I found for under £200.

Should really share that footage some day

I'd also be keen to see that.

@Andrew Reid MLVapp works really well with Magic Lantern, perhaps you need something like that.

I don't know why I've read all this but I have and it's a weird discussion. The matter of fact is (and it's been proved many times) no one is going to pick the difference between FF or M43 shooting video (most couldn't pick it in a photo either), choose the right tool for the job and don't be mad if some people have a different idea of "the right tool".

I shoot FF for photos and M43 for video (albeit with Metabones XL mostly) and that's just because I feel those cameras give me the best use of lenses and the best value for money (specs wise), the sensor size for me isn't really a determining factor, I could easily bounce between M43, APS-C or FF and be happy (and I have at times).

I just want GH6 announcement.

On 2/14/2020 at 2:36 AM, fuzzynormal said:

"Double Punch" is what we called it in the olden days. 

The only solution I've found is to make myself put forth a concious effort to literally read the record clock for a second, make sure it's rolling, and get on with my work. 

Yep, easy to do. The amount of times I've had friends filming me with a GoPro as we take it in turns and they just film all the inbetween stuff and nothing of me riding is painful... Only thing you can do is pay better attention. If you're doing fast paced action filming it's happened to you for sure.

Mod is easy, similar to isco S8 (which I use a lot). You don't really have many easily available choices that will end up smaller and lighter than a Kowa with 2x stretch, I'd try modding your ISCO.

For sure it's going to work. One thing to note is that adding anything in front of your scope will make it less sharp, a vari-diopter will also make it less sharp. 

20 hours ago, Dude_ger said:

@kye that s my actual problem, since i want it to be rectilinear but also wide
i used a Tokina 11-16 wide angle which was pretty cool, but it was version 1 which did not work well with the booster.

@tweak thanks, so 8mm would be fine i think. I also thought about the Peleng since i know it well from the skateboarding days.

 

 

Peleng is a solid option if you want more vignette, it will vignette more than an Rokinon (or similar) 8mm fisheye lenses, this is due to the type of distortion pattern it has.
Peleng has an equidistant distortion which is one of the most common types, the Rokinon has a Sterographic projection which makes things at the edges seem a little less squashed but will also give you a greater FOV than any other typical fisheye when cropped to a Full Frame image with no vignette. Canon 8-15 has another distortion pattern again in its equisolid distortion which gives you a little more FOV in the corners than a Pelengm, as closer to the edge of 180degrees the image is more squashed, but less FOV than a Stereographic projection.
I think the most classic look and type of projection is from the 8-15L and it's probably why so many people use it. The Rokinon has a cool projection but if you're going for that true "fisheye" look it tends to look less fishy IMO.

On 12/7/2019 at 5:07 AM, Dude_ger said:

Yes. My thought was, to use a EF Version on a Booster to get even wider.

Some info from my old post - https://www.skateboard.com.au/article/20-93527-1/best-fisheye-setup-for-gh/

I have a GH5 and a Zcam E2 these days and an 8mm fisheye with the 0.64x speed booster gives a tiny amount of vignette, but very easy to crop out if desired. Regular speed booster 0.71x will give you no Vig.

8 hours ago, Adam Kuźniar said:

Nah, they're fine, you just need to take everything with a huge grain of salt.

i.e. they are a joke  ?.

Those rumour sites are a joke.

On 10/22/2019 at 4:04 PM, Ian Edward Weir said:

Thanks Chris, I have been rocking the GH2, GH3, GH4 and now the GH5. It is the end of the line for me with the GH line. I really learned allot and I have lots of footage I love. There are a few exciting camera's out and coming out. GH5 with the 10 bit was a big plus over 8 bit. I want something with great color science like the Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 but also with a small form factor. The Z CAM E-2 4K looks nice. For me the dream specs would good color science, 10 bit, 120 fps 4k, small form factor, global shutter, Pro Res Raw or HQ with MFT mount. I have invested and built up a collection of vintage glass in MFT so I'm rocking this formate for a while. With all that said, I still think my best footage came off my hacked GH2

 

You won't be disappointed with the ZcamE2, it's the route I took after having similar cameras to you.

1 hour ago, DaveAltizer said:

I see this thing as like the iPhone camera app in the sky. No raw, or crazy settings or bitrates....just a clean, easy to use product and something that I can keep in my bag all the time. I honestly will be using this more than I ever used my Mavic Pro. But I am in a weird position now only doing YouTube content instead of freelance work. 

This might be an odd question, but what does this thing fly like in the wind? I shoot most Kiteboarding videos and I don't particularly care much for carrying a drone (had a mavic but sold it as I don't like more things to carry), however there's quite some times where companies want drone shots included because they think it looks "pro". Basically what I'm getting at is whether this thing can fly in say 20knots or so?

When new users sign up and the only thing they do is praise/condemn a certain product it always smells a little fishy to me... sure some might be genuine, but I doubt the majority are.

Cheers to the real EOSHD forum users out there. ?

On 10/16/2019 at 10:10 AM, JudoSurfer said:

Lens protectors are available from GoPro and other companies for the HERO8.  You also have the option of using the Protective Case (also comes with skeleton back door for improved audio).  Additionally, Polar Pro has also already released lens covers (although not clear, undoubtedly some other 3rd party manufacturers will).  Then there is also GoPro Plus which allows up to two camera replacements per year.

Yes, EIS is not great in low light, but the camera automatically adjust for this.  You don't need to turn it off (but feel free to if you want). 

So you're telling me the "fix" is to put another piece of cheap plastic in front of my GoPro8 to protect it, when previously I could just replace the glass?... sounds like a step backwards to me.

If you don't turn EIS off for afternoon/sunset, your footage is horrible (Hero 7), obviously you can leave it on if you want, same as you can put a protective lens in front of your camera if you want.

On 10/15/2019 at 11:53 PM, BenEricson said:

Yeah, but the audio from the vx and soft desaturated highlights still compete with what is available now. It's just such a good all in one package. I also think that skateboarding undeniably looks better in 4:3. 

Perhaps, although it's not the reason VX got popular at the time (that's something that people waffle on about now more than anything). I'd disagree anyway, in my opinion VX doesn't sound impressive and you can get the same with many mics or filters if you know what you're doing. I also don't think VX highlights or IQ are anything to write home about.
I would agree though that fisheye in a 4:3 aspect makes the most sense for the way it is used when following someone doing lines. 

2 hours ago, akaikitty said:

lots of people use them for skating for some reason, mainly becasue they're too cheap for hvx200 hmc150 etc. 

same with the sony vx and pd cameras. it's a thing for some reason.

been looking for a dvx but i'm broke as all hell lol, if i could find a modded one that'd still be amazing though

I know quite a few who still shoot VX1000/2000/2100 but they are dwindling as well. I know only one person who has a HVX200 and an Extreme Fish personally (although many US skate and Snow movies are shot with this combo).

I don't know anyone who still shoots with a DVX100 (at least not here in AUS/Poland). Neither anyone with a PD cam.

Honestly I think VX is about the last dwindling "standard" if you could call it that, but it's also getting close to done, even the die hards are switching out to other things as the tech is getting harder and harder to repair and keep functional and also many people/skaters don't see the point in spending all that time on a project to be hardly able to make out a trick. I'd say the only thing still relevant and perhaps making more of a resurgence to a degree is Super 8 and 16mm film (for the richer budget).

VX is a thing because it was the first camera to come with a legit fisheye (Century MK1, AKA "deathlens", which was coined after the death-star in star wars haha). So many iconic skate movies were shot on that camera, so it became a standard and then at some point also nostalgia.