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4 hours ago, andrgl said:

www.jukedeck.com

Pretty wild stuff.

 

There is definitely some good stuff

2 hours ago, Kurtisso said:

With these Angie zooms, because they have the interchangeable rear optical elements, would the s35 lens version outperform the FF lens version + speedbooster combo? FOV would be the same and the amount of light coming in is essentially the same but the FF lens +speedbooster combo would be introducing an extra piece of glass in the speedbooster right? My thought is that this lens design with interchangeable rear optical blocks makes s35 to FF speedboosters unnecessary... or rather does a better job? 

The only benefit of a speedbooster in this scenario would be if the FF version of the lens is also a T2, then with SB it would behave more like 30-90 T1.4. Since the FF version is slower than S35 version, then there is no point in using a speedbooster because as you said, you just add more unnecessary glass to get the same result.

Out of words

I just read an article on B&H about GH5 and now I am totally confused about the sensor.

It says that 6K photo will be around 6000x3000px...

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6K PHOTO for Rapid 18MP Stills Capture

The number 1 standout feature of the Panasonic GH5 has to be its new 6K PHOTO mode. Functioning much like the existing high-speed burst 4K PHOTO modes with which we are already familiar, this more than doubles the resolution captured, to 18MP, or about 6000 x 3000. This means that you won’t have to sacrifice resolution to get super-fast stills capture.

 

... then later it says it will have newly developed 18MP sensor

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Newly Developed 18MP Micro Four Thirds Sensor

As with almost every new camera these days, the GH5 sports a fancy new image sensor. This time it is an 18MP Micro Four Thirds sensor which, combined with upgraded digital signal processing and heat dissipation, should result in improved image quality and low-light performance.

 

I'm not sure that anyone would make a totally non standard 2:1 ratio sensor and that would also mean only 12MP stills in 4:3 ratio. I am not an expert but only multiaspect makes sense to me in this case.

Here is an interview with a guy that tested the preproduction model, he has a lot of praise for IBIS, especially paired with the new stabilized 12-100 zoom.

It is very hard to please people these days. When one company finally brings 4K 60p and at the same time 4K 10bit 422 internaly to the masses (that we all whined about for a few years), now all of a sudden it is not that important. Sorry Panasonic we were just kidding, we don't actually need better image quality, we need autofocus that is connected to our brain so we can shoot, read magazines and drink coffee at the same time.

For now they can't talk pretty much about anything at all, so I'm guessing they are not that close to final product. It seems to me that the announcement was made too early just to have a flagship model presented at Photokina and to send a message to potential customers to be patient and not run to Olympus, Sony or Fuji.

http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/09/20/photokina-2016-panasonic-gh5-questions/

3 hours ago, sanveer said:

Though for mirrorless cameras, since everything is electronic, it may be an issue of processing power. And that is why Panasonic may also need a pair of quad core processors,  one solely for focus.

Panasonic will probably have to throw in fast processors because it must handle 4K 60p and 10bit 422, so I think they will have horse power covered.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/news/unveiled-new-sigma-art-lenses?BI=4906

some pics

Here are some leaked(lousy) images, Fuji conference at 5 pm Berlin time. Hope it brings affordable MF video to the table.

http://www.fujirumors.com/leaked-first-image-fujifilm-gfx-medium-format-camera/

4 minutes ago, neosushi said:

I could be wrong but it would such a strong feature not to talk about... but they didn't talk about IBIS which generates much expectations... so I guess all is possible !

As Andrew said before, if it was a classic 4:3 sensor it would need to have around 25-28 MP to be able to record 6K Photo bursts, so multiaspect seems more logical to me.

22 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

If it is a 4:3 6000 pixel wide sensor then it would have to be bumped to 28MP.

Then question is how are they doing 4K from 28MP? Pixel binning? Oversampling?

So many unanswered questions, I'm surprised how little info they released.

Maybe really it is multiaspect sensor as you said before, so 6K Photo in 16:9 ratio 5760x3240=18,6MP

3 minutes ago, Jonesy Jones said:

I agree. Been drooling over these. It doesn't have quite the same range as the Zeiss, but the 15-40 ez 2 could be the last lens I ever buy. 

If I could afford these two, I think my lens GAS sickness would be cured for good .

I know that this is probably a great lens with a good price for a cinema zoom, but for a similar price those new Angenieux zooms seem like a much better proposition.

With these and probably future price drops it seems this could be a F35 for the new generation. DR a little lacking, but more than compensated with beautiful imagery.

2 hours ago, tugela said:

Horizontal resolution does not need to match vertical resolution. Remember in the old days we used to have non square pixels that were converted on display. Something similar could be done in camera to account for aspect differences.

Yeah I get your point, like 1440x1080 gets streched to 1920 after import from mini dv tape.

4 minutes ago, wolf33d said:

The GH5 will be a 4K30p camera, improvement over GH4 being 10b422. FAILED.

So the 1500$ 4K 10bit 4:2:2 camera in a tiny body that can also shoot stills failed the same way as C300 mark II (4K 30p), a 12000$ camera. What a failure.

6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

So Micro Four Thirds has a 4:3 aspect ratio for stills

But in the past Panasonic have had multi-aspect sensors

Maybe this is another multi-aspect sensor

That would explain 20MP stills in 4:3

But in 16:9 or DCI 6K mode it could use a wider area close to 6K wide?

It makes sense, but I wonder how will that work with IBIS and also does that mean that in video it would have less of a crop than 2X in FF terms and do their lenses cover such scenario.

2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

That is IF the specs are true.

The 20 megapixel Panasonic GX8 sensor was 5184 pixels wide

How are they getting 6K from a 5K sensor?

Correct!

Who knows, maybe they decided to upscale the video internally a bit, but frankly I don't see the logic there.

If 4k 4:2:2 10bit is true then 6K is almost irrelevant in my book. It certainly would be a nice bonus but not that important.

1 hour ago, ricardo_sousa11 said:

Absolutely fake, and if true, it would certainly cost the same as an FS5 minimum. Besides, how can it be 20mp and output 6k ? Wouldnt it have to be at least 28mpx?

If it is 6K DCI aspect ratio 6144x3240=19906560, if 16:9 5760x3240=18662400. So 20MP would be needed for the video cropped part of the sensor and I believe that the whole sensor in 4/3 ratio should actually have more MP in that case (something like 6144x4620=28385280, so 28MP).

Just now, wolf33d said:

To be honest I dont like the SB. One of the feature I wait the most on the GH5 is the video AF like on the A6300. I do a lot of gimbal use and need a proper video AF. SB AF is not usable..... That is why for me it is a problem

OK, my bad... you have a point there

39 minutes ago, wolf33d said:

So I might grab a D810 + GH5, but then 2 cameras with 2 systems of lens

Why is it a problem, Nikon mount lenses + Nikon SB, except if you already invested in something else.

19 minutes ago, AaronChicago said:

It's funny b/c whenever I type a specific camera question into Google I usually end up seeing a link to EOSHD on the first page.

I think the reason for this is because for a few years now Google adjust their search results for every user differently according to their sites visit and searches in the past.

I'm not so thrilled about this because it can be very misleading.