Jordan Drake

Beat me to it, thanks!

Beat me to it, thanks!

Beat me to it, thanks!

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

Gerald is a legend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.

Sort of a toss up. I guess it depends on your lens lineup.
 

I enjoy Chris and Jordan's videos. I think overall they do a good job reviewing cameras, are honest in their reviews, and I've found that when using cameras they've reviewed I come to a lot (but not all) of the same conclusions. 
I don't really go to DPReview's main site and skip their other YouTube content, but I enjoy Chris and Jordan. 
There are also, I think, substantially more users there. Which is why Andrew is frustrated; his links being censored there harms his traffic and, frankly, deprives readers access to more knowledge. 

So true. XC10 is a good camera (within its own limits, like any other gear). And when those two clowns (Chris and Jordan) were engaged to make "reviews" for DPR, I stopped to follow the site. (I should have done that earlier, however.)
From @Andrew Reid to them, a clear path of decline. Now DRP is just in business of marketing newest gear.

I don't know anything about DPreview, but I must admit that Chris and Jordan look to me as the most polite, measured, unpretentious, but still with touch of nice humor, reviewers on YT that I have patient to watch occasionally. Even their quasi muppetshow mutual friendliness is cute to me - out of aggressively and vulgar shouting "Hey what's up guys" or different kinds of sticky affectation... But I think they are just from recently members of DPreview.
Actually, what I really miss in my infantile imagination is - how to abridge dispersion all around the world of us, members of EOSHD... It'll be so nice that some of us, willing to play and participate, form several geographically-based teams with agreement about competitive goal to make some artistic short movies. Maybe just as in NBA - USA vs other world, or vs UK vs Middle-South Europe vs Scandinavians vs FarEast vs Ozzies&comp etc.
In my dream it would be so cool and pretty picturesque scenery to, say, meet Mercer/webruner duo at battlefield with Kisaha's 4x2 NX1 revolvers or Django's collection of canons...  And I just hope that such idealistic creative duels would not turn out in brutal realistic question that pursues me even in the dream : what camera has most cinematic look?

This is a great review. I very much like how he deals with all the problems and then at the end says how the camera was fun to use and is a really good and effective camera.
Looks like a great camera. 

Hmm, Jordan did a really nice job on this review. He seems to like it. It looks like a better video camera than we have thought. I sort of wish I could afford it now.
 

Pretty noticeable, but not bad for super-sampled 4K. In-line with the a7 III.

Yeah, I'm really unhappy with how I delivered that conclusion. The point I was trying to make is that if you only want to carry the camera, the GH5 and X-T3 are much more full featured. If you add an external recorder, however the Z6 and to a lesser extent the Z7 become extremely compelling. The audio issues can certainly be worked around as well, but I remember shooting with Canon DSLRs and occasionally being forced to use an underpowered mic. 
I do think the main purchasers for video will almost exclusively be people with a large selection of Nikkor AF glass.

Yeah, I'm really unhappy with how I delivered that conclusion. The point I was trying to make is that if you only want to carry the camera, the GH5 and X-T3 are much more full featured. If you add an external recorder, however the Z6 and to a lesser extent the Z7 become extremely compelling. The audio issues can certainly be worked around as well, but I remember shooting with Canon DSLRs and occasionally being forced to use an underpowered mic. 
I do think the main purchasers for video will almost exclusively be people with a large selection of Nikkor AF glass.

Yeah, I'm really unhappy with how I delivered that conclusion. The point I was trying to make is that if you only want to carry the camera, the GH5 and X-T3 are much more full featured. If you add an external recorder, however the Z6 and to a lesser extent the Z7 become extremely compelling. The audio issues can certainly be worked around as well, but I remember shooting with Canon DSLRs and occasionally being forced to use an underpowered mic. 
I do think the main purchasers for video will almost exclusively be people with a large selection of Nikkor AF glass.

I think we are reading too much into it. As big as DPR is they have to cover their ass every which way from hell. And I doubt they have total free rein form Amazon to do what they like. They have as of late been a bit more bold on sort of knocking Canon being behind, holding back.
As much as they test you are never going to please everyone. I doubt they are just kissing Canon's ass. But are not going to go out of their way to piss Canon off. And that link to here about ML and the EOS-R shows they are not sticking pins in a Voodoo Doll that has a heck of a resemblance to Andrew. ?

Max repeatedly stated that this was the first of several tests. I'd rather see his findings as he shoots them, then wait a month for a 40 minute video with all the results in every category. 
 

Max repeatedly stated that this was the first of several tests. I'd rather see his findings as he shoots them, then wait a month for a 40 minute video with all the results in every category.