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If you're working solely by yourself (never on other people's productions) say as a wedding videographer or small in house corporate productions, then yes getting say an EVA1 + S1H + S5mk2 (for when AF is critically important, say when shooting solo on a gimbal unpredictable content) would be a nice little package to have!
 
Of course it depends a lot on where you live, and what kind of markets you work in (narrative vs doco vs sports vs commercials vs whatever can all have very different preferences. Likewise low vs mid vs high budget tiers can have different preferences too. Ditto what's popular in Berlin vs Vancouver could be quite different) but generally speaking if you're looking to work quite a bit as a Cam Op / Second Shooter / etc it would be rather foolish to pick anything other than a Sony. 
With a very strong preference for going with the Sony FX6, maaaybe the FX9 depending on your market niche and/or budget. (some people might even be targeting the Sony BURANO, such as this guy who just posted about it this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_psSssbGk&ab_channel=CrankyCameraman As that what makes sense for his market and the work he does) But if on a very tight budget, and the FX6 isn't viable, then go with either the FS7 or FX3/FX30 instead. 
If for perhaps you hate Sony and your joy is more important the $$$ in the bank account, or maybe you are targeting a niche where Sony isn't so big & relevant (say narrative for instance) then you can think about other non-Sony alternatives. 
For instance if you're trying to break into the narrative world and make it as a DoP (or you've already "made it" as a DoP, and you can work on productions where you can use whatever cameras you wish and are suitable for the shoot. As they've got the rental budget for it. But you want a smaller cheaper "personal camera" for yourself, so you can bring it along to passion projects you're shooting that you wish to help out) then I'd be seriously considering non-Sony cameras such as the Blackmagics (any of them) or the RED Komodo (or older cheaper models such as the RED Raven or RED Epic / Scarlet) or an older ARRI Alexa Classic (or perhaps the AMIRA). Maaaaybe the BS1H would get a consideration. 
 

You can see what I mean about them not standing still; RED just announced this:
https://www.newsshooter.com/2024/01/25/v-raptor-8k-vv-x-v-raptor-xl-8k-vv-x-global-shutter-cameras/
Has all of this: global shutter, mirrorless mount, 8K, TC, genlock, SDI, etc etc etc (you kinda sort of ish "have built in NDs", but not really. As the EF adapter can have NDs built into it, but you won't have the clear ND option. And of course no NDs if working with RF Mount lenses) 
Yeah ok, the  RED V-RAPTOR 8K VV [X] is however a $30K camera. But it will still have a knock on domino effect pushing down the secondhand prices of all the RED models below it. Making it even harder for a future Panasonic BS2H / EVA2 (or Varicam LT mk2) to compete against it. 
My bad, I totally forgot about the box-ish style cameras with NDs which are:
Sony VENICE (all versions) + Sony BURANO
Still, it doesn't change my point much, as the cheapest of those is the BURANO at US$25K. 

I'd just go with a used S1H which are fantastic value now.
Unless you absolutely must have exceptional forward tracking AF and/or full frame 50/60p, it's an exceptional piece of kit that is a joy to use with stellar output.

I'm starting from the other end! Video first and adding photos. I've 20 year experience on the video side but started experimenting with photos as well last year. Starting with low budget weddings (compared to my normal weddings) whilst I get to grip with how to do hybrid weddings as I explain to the couple that I'm developing this style of wedding and they are happy to get what they get! The video comes naturally but I need to work the photos!
The AF and punch in to focus on the S5mk2 has definitely made it easier.

Being serious, it's mostly 'simply' a case of starting out as a 100% stills photographer who through a process of trial & error technique-wise plus balance of tools used, added X% of video per annum at the approx following rate:
Year 1 = + 10% (just static single camcorder on tripod ceremony & speeches)
Year 2 = + 20% (as above plus a tiny amount of handheld or other bits and bobs on a tripod)
Year 3 = + 35% (adding more elements and volume)
Year 4 = + 50%
Year 5 = + 75%
Year 6 = + 100%
Since that time, more refinement/evolution than revolution.
The principle skills are probably determination combined with the ability to multitask whilst being prepared for quite a few setbacks, especially financial ones as there is no official guide or handbook, just self-education/experimentation.
If anyone really wants to know the specifics, they can book and pay for a workshop. But it ain't cheap. Various competitors have been trying to weasel info for years, but I protect my niche like a cornered weasel myself 🤑😈

Stumbled across this feature film which came out quite recently that was shot entirely with the Panasonic G7! 
Tease trailer:
Trailer:
 

That would be any future "Panasonic BGH2" (with a GH7 sensor hopefully). 
 

Still much better than any other non-Auckland place in New Zealand!

i like to be anonymous. otherwise, people may lurck into my home, destroying all gears, because i dare to challenge the 24p sacristy. lol. just a joke. 

I’d go a different way entirely and say that instead of many of the things suggested above, you could spend about $4-5k and get a used C70.  The only thing you’ll miss is a somewhat boxier form factor.  😉

A full review - this one is PTZ-focused.  This one includes a direct test between the P4K and the M4K and the conclusion is it's the same sensor.
(linked to timestamp)
The side-by-side size comparison really is something!

Stumbled across this feature film which came out quite recently that was shot entirely with the Panasonic G7! 
Tease trailer:
Trailer:
 

I asked him about pricing and he said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NexusCameras/comments/194mnf3/comment/ki389b9/?context=3
 

Hello filmmakers. I hate to do it again, but I’d love fresh new perspective for the new year. 
I’ve purchased a Sigma FP as another cam, and am rigging it out. I’m attracted to its small form factor. So mounting a V-Mount defeats the purpose of keeping it small. So I’ve decided to go with NP-F batteries to power the rig. 
I’ve had to have the camera repaired by sigma once already as somehow I fried the PCB board by failing to shut off my camera before disassembly. I’ve since upgraded to SmallRig’s latest NP-F plate, which has built-in overcurrent and short circuit protection (to prevent me from frying the board again since I tend to move fast sometimes.) 
Because of this, I’ve created a whole new fear of frying another board, with any camera in my future.
I feel better having the new SmallRig plate, but also have noticed some NP-F batteries advertise that they have a built in chip to also protect from over-current/short circuiting. 
I can’t get myself to purchase a true Sony NP-F as they’re so expensive and seemingly hard to find. So, I’m gonna give some Amazon brands a chance. I also have a gift card to Amazon from the holidays, so I’d prefer to use it. 
I’ve used Wasabi Power batteries for other cameras and have generally been happy. Check out this link though, as this person disassembled a lot of 3rd party NP-F batteries and found that they’re not even wired to deliver their claimed capacity. He also disassembled a Wasabi Power NP-F and found there was steel taped to the batteries. Seems sketchy, unless there’s a real use that I’m unaware of? Bummer. 
The only high capacity 990 I can find on Amazon is from Kastar. The reviews also are not great, claiming that the capacity isn’t as high as claimed. It also says it has a built-in circuit protection chip. Anyone like Kastar batteries despite being seemingly some of the cheapest on Amazon?
The Wasabi Power NP-F (linked above) has great reviews, has built in chip, but it looks like the forum poster (linked above/first link) left their findings as a review too. Bummer, as I like this brand. They have a good warranty too. Still considering it anyway. 
I know Watson batteries are generally good. But the price is still high. Still onsidering it though. 
Any other decent 3rd party Amazon brands ya’ll have had a good experience with?
Again, I don’t wanna fry my board. So a battery with a circuit protection chip is preferred. 
Thanks all!

I really do not get it. If it would have bluetooth and the same record/crop modes as P4K they would sell a shitload of these camera's !
Apparantly it does have Gyro.
 

For what and to whom?
The Z6ii is not out of date for me. I would not get one myself for video work but for photo, meets ALL my needs. 
Ideally, I would not mind having 45mp, but 1250 (used Z6ii) vs 4000 (used Z8) euros, err, no. And the Z6ii has slightly better DR, lower noise and better battery life plus is a more compact unit (without additional grip).
So maybe you have some reasoning in that you have not explained, but perfectly 'in date' for many users?!

I don’t know. I mean, I really do not know.
I am pretty happy with the video side of these. And the stills.
I like the ergos, mostly.
I don’t like the clunky shutter mechanism. It’s not an issue for video and some stills users are OK with it. I am not.
My other issue is the lenses.
Great glass, pretty much all of it, but the Lumix zooms are big and heavy and the 1.8’s plasticky and boring.
I mostly prefer the Sigma lenses, the primes and the smaller zooms but the issue for me (and I did not work out the issue until I was quite heavily invested) was the lack of the lenses I was looking for; fast ‘my use case/need’ zooms such as:
Canon 28-70mm f2
Canon 24-105mm f2.8
Tamron 35-150mm f2/2.8
Tamron 70-180mm f2.8
I can’t justify the cost of switching to Canon as the cost is crazy money.
I could make a case for Sony, but I would rather not.
Nikon for me is the best all-round option for me right now as the relatively affordable Tamron lenses can be easily adapted with essentially native performing AF plus have great image quality for stills.
Arguably they all do if you know what you are doing, ie, capture well, shoot raw and edit/grade at a decent level.
Great IBIS in the most recent models such as the Z9, Z8 and now Zf.
Great AF and speed.
I’d love a Z9 for the use case I intend, but at over 5k, I’ve asked myself whether that is worth it to me and my business and my financial brain says not.
I kind of like the Z8, but prefer the Z9 and the fact it’s 1k less does not swing it for me.
I can’t make a decision on a Z6iii because it does not yet exist and may not in time for me.
So the Z6ii, inc. battery grip, readily available on the used market in ‘like new’ condition at 1600 euros?
As I said before, a bit of a no-brainer and the most likely option for me.
Happy with the S1H on static duty with the S5ii roaming run & gun on the video side of things with the Zf doing candid stills and most likely, a Z6ii on the shoulder for everything else.
4 bodies is something I hoped to move away from, never mind 4 non-identical bodies…but here I am.
There will be one or two detractors who will say, “but you will change it out by the end of the year” and maybe I will, but as long as I turned over €XX,000, that’s cool.
Bottom line is I think Nikon are pretty strong right now, especially when you factor in the adapted e Mount options.
Possibly slightly less so on a pure video POV, but for hybrid and stills, right up there.
But then, none of this stuff is really weak and our skill sets are probably always going to be our weakest element.

I try to do this. 
But that is not how my brain works. 
I only see my mistakes immediately AFTER I have pressed the "submit" button! haha
 
Yeah, it's a pity. 
I feel that the timer should be longer. Say if it was an hour long. 
Then if you post, then someone else replies at some point in the future, and you then reply back after trying to edit it, welllll..... the hour probably has expired already? (for instance, your reply to me just now, over two hours has passed!) 
But if you're just taking your time to read through the thread, and you get other thoughts you want to add to your post as you read further into the thread, well it's unlikely you'll take longer than a whole hour to read to the end of the thread? 

Even I have nightmares about that happening!
Under certain circumstances then Fortran is faster than C

That's dumb... that's the identical article to which @kye linked to. Don't understand why ymcinema changed the URL 

Love it! That's my jam. 
lol! Don't blame PTSD from then as reasons not to use Fortran today 😛 
Wow, our posts are bringing out all the older times from the woodworks! 😮 
Punch cards... I thank my lucky stars I never had to do that. (although I did have one Physics lab, stretched out over multiple 3hr sessions, where I was literally flipping switches so as to enter in my program I'd written in binary to then run it on their hardware)
Anyway, Fortran of today in 2024 is very different to the Fortran you'd have used back then! 🙂 
Fortran is even a Top 20 language, in terms of popularity in the world (currently at this moment it's ranked #12):
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ 
That was basically me too! My family didn't own a computer, or even a TV. 

Yeah it is rough for us living down under, no matter if in Oz or NZ. The taxes and extreme shipping costs. 

I started just after The School of Computing had formed and separated from the School of Engineering.
In first semester they taught us to program in Pascal via the "it's like a recipe" -> pseudocode -> Pascal path.  In second semester they kept going with the theory in Pascal and also taught us C and assembler too, so by 9 months in we were coding double linked-list databases in assembler.  Some kids hadn't used a computer before the course....  welcome to computer science!
After that I have vague memories of Java, Javascript, Perl, Fortran, Visual Basic, etc but the main language was always C.

I learned FORTRAN in high school. It was the first high-level language I learned.
At university, the first CS class that every CS major had to take was a FORTRAN programming class. I was an EE major, but I took it anyway as I could see that's where the industry was headed. The work was done on a CDC 6400 mainframe using punched cards.
The second CS course, which I also took, used Pascal, which was a big improvement over FORTRAN, although even some of the CS majors just couldn't get their heads around the concept of pointers (they seemed natural to me). 
After that, everything was in C, which is the language that I use to this day when working on microcontroller projects (as a hobby). My professional work mostly revolves around working with hardware description languages, primarily SystemVerilog, and the various tools used for simulation and verification.

Yeah, familiar with that one.
When I was into hifi I once paid almost $100 for a pair of resistors.  They were custom made high-precision ones made from exotic materials, so were expensive at USD$10 each, but it was the USD$60 shipping fee (which at the time was the minimum cost for whatever courier they used exclusively for shipping their products).
Combined with import duties, we call it the Australia Tax.  It's also one of the reasons I don't tend to sell things I'm done with it.