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No. Can't argue with the box office.

Yes. 
Used pros:
Price (vs new) / warranty if recent and with receipt (almost never the case on ebay..)
Used cons:
Never know how it was used by the previous user, so it is a bit of a gamble

Grey market pros:
Price also, the camera is brand new you are the first user
Grey market cons: 
No warranty except going through the dealer himself

I would take grey market over used for same price. 
I need something better for the pictures though (that is why A7RII fits the bill, as well as D750 + RX100IV). 
Another idea is D5500 (450$ grey market!!!!) which is 95% as capable as D750 for video and photo + RX100IV with the idea in mind to re sell it either right after the trip or in a year or so. 

I did exactly this (D5500) for my july trip in the rockies. Got a Sigma 10-20mm for landscapes at 250$CAD on eBay, sold it with auction 2 weeks after and it went for 350CAD$, made a 100$ profit without asking anything ....  
 

If you don't want to use half your trolley/bank account on photo equipment, becoming a robbery-candidate all over Cuba, get a Panasonic FZ1000, three extra batteries and a way to unload your pictures/footage. 

Anyone looking at the A7R2 for video primarily, and sinking £2500 into it is mad.  If you want the best camera for stills with interesting manual focus lenses like rangefinder glass then the a7r2 is it, period.  The raw files I'm seeing from my A7R2 are astounding.  The best image I've seen.  it also shoots video.   
 
The image from the a7s internal 1080p is as good as the 4k image from the A7R2.  the a7s is now less than half the price of the a7r2.  if video is your primary purpose for the camera, a7s cant be beat.  

Thank god! Incredible that Samsung keeps updating this camera, probably the best bang for buck camera you can buy.

And....perhaps few noticed that, but now focus peaking can be turned always on during video...just set the focus peaking to a custom button and you're done. I tested it only with nx lenses, but I guess the same goes for legacy lenses.

In addition to image stability, I'm happy to announce my unofficial, unplanned drop test was a complete success. 
Peak design backpack kit was a complete failure though. Dropped the nx1 from 5 feet onto solid granite straight onto the lens and slid 10 more feet down the mountain. It still runs like a champ. The thing is a tank.

Dbounce, if a newer camera comes from samsung it will be the lower end nx50. For the successor of nx1 you'll have to wait 1.5-2 years imo.

Samsung is really not playing around. Hopefully they add something like S-Log in the next update.

1. It is amazing. Massively reduces jitters and rs. And I see no degradation. There is a slight crop, indicating the camera is still sampling from almost the whole sensor even with DIS to get UHD video.
2. Yes, works with any lens. There are videos using DIS with manual lenses, and it works fine.
Now, there is a penalty that I have seen: If the subject is moving, say in the wind, the DIS algorithm will try to keep the subject in place. Effectively, if the subject (say, a flower), is moving up and down the clip makes it look like the camera is following the flower movements!
But other than that, the Samsung DIS seems as good as IBIS, maybe better for video. This feature was an utter surprise, and a real breakthrough.

Wow. Just when I thought Samsung had finally slowed down on the feature-adding updates, they come out of nowhere with DIS. Unexpected to say the least. Results look fairly promising

Rumor says the DIS doesn't loose any substantial image quality, anybody that can confirm? 
And does it work with manual lenses?

The greatest visual director of his generation.

I'd recommend the Sony PMW-F3 for sure (I have one myself! And I'm using Nikon lenses with it).
They're an insanely good deal. Can easily pick one up for roughly two grand ish each on eBay or elsewhere. I even saw one go for a grand and a half earlier this week on eBay (I paid even less for mine!).
 
Only significant drawbacks about this AWESOME camera: weight, max 60fps, and only MF (except for rare FZ exceptions).

Thanks, agreed, but the people helping are very variable skills-wise and sometimes they need set and forget. If I could do it every week myself, it would have been a very good solution!
An option could also be to use this as an excuse to buy myself a new camera and donate the gh3. Then they could spend the money on a decent lens instead. Need some agreement from the mrs on this one though..

A GH3 or G6 with a vintage lens or two could do the trick if the operator can manual focus. 

Maybe a used D5300 and Tokina 80-200mm f2.8? I got that lens for £250 ($400) on ebay. 

good 1080p is better than mediocre 4k.  Grab an A7S and shoot internal 1080p with a cheap 50mm prime like a contax 50/1.7.  nothing will come close for the money.  full frame for most stuff, aps-c crop for close punch ins.  

there are aspects of a camera that might get left in the dust because everyone's chasing after 4k, so I get the question from that standpoint. also I personally cannot handle 4k video editing on my crappy pc, so

What if there were no 4K available in cameras today? Would you still recommend an A7something, GH4, NX-1, based on their other features? I like some of the high FPS slow motion coming out on new cameras, but not enough to be the sole buying point.
I need to record video for work - A few talking heads, how-to steps, finished product, QA testing, etc. It will never be at a theatre near you. I do not need 4K, just clear quality and pleasant colors. Used models are also fine.
Staying at 1080, what camera system would you recommend based on quality, features, workflow, codecs, etc. ?

If you're used to Nikon then get the D750, and don't forget the lenses are as important as the camera. What do you use with the D200?
If D750 is out of your price range get the D5300 or D5500.

I've been using RJ Lens Turbo and Nikon G adapters from the start. They're great, nothing "quick fix" about them!
You'd have to be an absolute bonkers idiot of the first degree to damage your lenses with one of these. And as you're smart enough to read EOSHD and post on this forum I'd say you're not that :-)

I've been using RJ Lens Turbo and Nikon G adapters from the start. They're great, nothing "quick fix" about them!
You'd have to be an absolute bonkers idiot of the first degree to damage your lenses with one of these. And as you're smart enough to read EOSHD and post on this forum I'd say you're not that :-)

you are right, I'm done with their conflict of interest.  
The connection between the president of Red owning BMCuser.com and DVXUSER.com is not healthy for this industry.  I ask all of you to take those sites with a grain of salt.  
Anything bad they say about Andrew Reid can be said a million times against Jim Jinnard and his Reduser reign of terror.  And he's a billionare.  Andrew Reid is just like you and me - just a guy who is trying to improve his cinematography skills. 
I will not be bullied by a billionaire and his army of "Yes Men" and "Board of Bros."
I hope all of you guys can see this too.  It feels good to not be the only one disgusted by how they run their camera forums.
UPDATE - now I feel sorry for the mod who deleted my post.  He is moderating with 27,000 posts a website owned by the president of a multibillion dollar corporation and has to pay for his little ads for his books on sound etc - 
 
So you spend countless hours on this forum and have to pay for your ads? On a forum that is owned by the president of Red camera which is a multimillion dollar corporation owned by a multi-billionare?
Wow okay I'm sorry for calling you a liar. 
But now I feel sorry for you.

 
  Originally Posted by David JimersonYou did call me a liar. Which is an insult. It's also untrue. I haven't lied about a thing.

I do pay for my ads, not that it's any of your business. Have from the start.

Do you pay for the link to your own website in your own signature? (No.) Why is that link there? By your own reasoning, doesn't that make you a "paid employee" as well? If not, why not?

RED is not our parent company; Jim Jannard sets absolutely no rules about how we moderate DVXuser, and Jarred has no involvement here anymore. (He could if he wanted to, but he doesn't.) These are all facts. Your refusal to believe them don't make them any less factual.

I don't have anything to say about Andrew. Like I said, he can say whatever he likes.


   Originally Posted by eddavid  Originally Posted by David JimersonI am no more a "paid employee" of this site than anyone else who runs ads on it. Lowel runs ads for lighting systems -- are they paid employees?

I will admit to a chuckle when I read that. 

   Originally Posted by eddavidNo actually it does. You are generating income from the site. Therefore you are a paid employee - you get paid in advertising. As a paid employee, you are consciously or subconsciously following a code. Because you have a vested interest in these forums.
   Originally Posted by David Jimerson'Coz I don't wanna. Has nothing to do with anything.
   Originally Posted by eddavid  Originally Posted by David Jimerson  Originally Posted by eddavidAnd you like to sell books.I was a mod here for years before I had anything to sell. My participation here isn't necessary to sell anything, anyway.Then why don't you get rid of your banner ads?

I don't have thick skin. I did call you a liar. But that's not an insult, it's the truth. 
Lowel pays for their ads. Do you pay for your ads?

Jim Jinnard runs Red camera which Jared Land, CEO of Landmine Media which owns reduser dvxuser etc is the president of.
Don't you see the conflict of interest?

Anyway I am glad you chuckled. That takes the air out of it. For you thinking that I was threatening you. When I wasn't threatening you.

I am very, very, very curious to hear your take on Andrew Reid. He already told me his take. Please do tell. 

yup, you can find them all day long at about two thousand dollars secondhand, and if you hunt hard it isn't impossible to get it even cheaper. 
 
That would be me you're referring to :-) And yes mine does come with 444!!
But even so, I think you're over stating this point. As I think most people like myself who are buying it up now in 2015 on the ultra cheap, are not going to pair it with an ultra expensive 444 recorder but will instead use it with an affordable 10 bit 422 recorder. (Although, this is changing and improving too! As now the PIX-E5 offers a very affordable option for 444 recording)
So keep an eye out for if a camera comes with 444 or not, but in the end I think what matters more is getting a good bargain on its price. I'd still buy one again even if it didn't have 444 as the price is great. 
 
Don't think you can reasonably compare an FS100 over an F3 (unless you *really want* that lighter weight, or the E mount).
No NDs, no s-log, no SDI, no 10 bit, and the list goes on. These are serious commissions vs an F3.
However, if you can pick one up cheap enough..... I wouldn't say now. Would have to be somewhere well south of a thousand dollars however before I'd consider a Sony FS100, otherwise it simply doesn't offer enough value vs an F3.
Quite pleased in how it is in low light, I shot a music video a couple of weeks ago with the F3 and 2x Sony A7s alongside it, in a cave lit by nothing but the flaming torch in the ogre's hand. When I can, I'll post it here and see if people can identify which shots are A7s vs F3 ;-)