Brian Williams

Nope, I work as a producer. I don't even own anything digital from Fuji, I do however have about 100rolls of Fujicolor and 1000 feet of 16mm Fuji at all times.
But I have shot with Fuji's in the past and really enjoy them. 
Here on this forum I'm just having a conversation. That does not mean that I work for the company I'm currently discussing. Specially since I said I was likely NOT to get it at this point. People are always free to ignore my posts or suck an egg if they don't like them
Kinda like Canon. My theory is that they are holding back a little because releasing overheating cameras and dodgy Log is bad business. Either do it right or not at all.

Damn. Well perhaps if Fuji receive feedback that this will cost them a lot of sales they may make a change to the firmware.  They need to understand that the cost of a 4k recorder is no small addition. And its not like we are getting 10 bit with it either.  It gets to the point that people may as well buy a dedicated pro video camera.  For such a small change in firmware they could bring a lot of new people to the system.

Here's Gordon Laing-
"I have confirmed that F log will only be on the HDMI output, NOT for in camera recording. A shame since it would be nice to have a flat profile for internal recording even at 4:2:0. Thanks for the tip!"
Such a bummer.

Here's Gordon Laing-
"I have confirmed that F log will only be on the HDMI output, NOT for in camera recording. A shame since it would be nice to have a flat profile for internal recording even at 4:2:0. Thanks for the tip!"
Such a bummer.

ouch.
But the thing is, it's not really "the same in photo"- shooting still photography is a whole other beast than shooting video, in many ways. AF is great for stills because it's one static image. AF for video is irractic, having to choose 24 times a second what to focus on. I'm sure it will at some point get good enough, but there's a reason why focus pullers still exist, why AF isn't used for movies or television show. 
 

ouch.
But the thing is, it's not really "the same in photo"- shooting still photography is a whole other beast than shooting video, in many ways. AF is great for stills because it's one static image. AF for video is irractic, having to choose 24 times a second what to focus on. I'm sure it will at some point get good enough, but there's a reason why focus pullers still exist, why AF isn't used for movies or television show. 
 

In terms of subject isolation, the lens would, in fact, still be a f1.2 FF equivalent, no?
Well the GH4 was $1700 when it came out, so assuming the GH5 will be the same, it is significantly more. And if you're like me and could care less about 4k60, don't want something as big as the GH4, its definitely worth the savings. Thats like saying, "Why buy that Toyota? For a little more than double the money you could get the Lexus".
Having already bought the GX85, I'm not waiting (with my D750 in tow- another reason I can't spend $1700+ on a second camera).
You should be shooting your video in manual. AF for video is for grandparents shooting clips of their grandkids on their iPhones.

In terms of subject isolation, the lens would, in fact, still be a f1.2 FF equivalent, no?
Well the GH4 was $1700 when it came out, so assuming the GH5 will be the same, it is significantly more. And if you're like me and could care less about 4k60, don't want something as big as the GH4, its definitely worth the savings. Thats like saying, "Why buy that Toyota? For a little more than double the money you could get the Lexus".
Having already bought the GX85, I'm not waiting (with my D750 in tow- another reason I can't spend $1700+ on a second camera).
You should be shooting your video in manual. AF for video is for grandparents shooting clips of their grandkids on their iPhones.

Yes.

GX85 using the Panny 42.5 f/1.7, a little wobbly but considering its a 85mm equivalent, pretty good. Now I just need to remember to white balance...

GX85 using the Panny 42.5 f/1.7, a little wobbly but considering its a 85mm equivalent, pretty good. Now I just need to remember to white balance...

GX85 using the Panny 42.5 f/1.7, a little wobbly but considering its a 85mm equivalent, pretty good. Now I just need to remember to white balance...

Crappy lighting and limited movement, this may be nominated for worst initial footage, but it's all I have at this point. Shot with the kit lens.

Crappy lighting and limited movement, this may be nominated for worst initial footage, but it's all I have at this point. Shot with the kit lens.

Crappy lighting and limited movement, this may be nominated for worst initial footage, but it's all I have at this point. Shot with the kit lens.

Crappy lighting and limited movement, this may be nominated for worst initial footage, but it's all I have at this point. Shot with the kit lens.

Crappy lighting and limited movement, this may be nominated for worst initial footage, but it's all I have at this point. Shot with the kit lens.

Crappy lighting and limited movement, this may be nominated for worst initial footage, but it's all I have at this point. Shot with the kit lens.

Well, the lack of a tiltable screen on the X-Pro2 has been more of an annoyance than I'd hoped, especially for video. 4k, while not huge to me (or my 2011 Macbook Pro, which is choking on 4k files at the moment) is a plus, and mostly, of course, the stabilization.
I've loved the photos I've gotten from the X-Pro2, as well as the excitement I get from using it, but the video has been average looking to me, nothing special- and with my only lens, the Fuji 35 2.0, not particularly steady. Maybe if Fuji were to unlock 4k in the camera to fix all the moire I'd reconsider, but I just have a feeling they won't; there's probably more than they've let on, like heat issues.

Picked up a GX85 today at Best Buy- they've had them in stock all week! I saw it on their website a few days ago, but assumed it was an error until I called the store and they told me they had two in stock; their website just gave me an error when I tried to order online for pickup.
I'm liking it so far, I think I'm going to return my X-Pro2 I got the other week, I need a proper video camera. I haven't had much of a chance to shoot yet, but I'll post the clips that I have in a bit.

Picked up a GX85 today at Best Buy- they've had them in stock all week! I saw it on their website a few days ago, but assumed it was an error until I called the store and they told me they had two in stock; their website just gave me an error when I tried to order online for pickup.
I'm liking it so far, I think I'm going to return my X-Pro2 I got the other week, I need a proper video camera. I haven't had much of a chance to shoot yet, but I'll post the clips that I have in a bit.

Picked up a GX85 today at Best Buy- they've had them in stock all week! I saw it on their website a few days ago, but assumed it was an error until I called the store and they told me they had two in stock; their website just gave me an error when I tried to order online for pickup.
I'm liking it so far, I think I'm going to return my X-Pro2 I got the other week, I need a proper video camera. I haven't had much of a chance to shoot yet, but I'll post the clips that I have in a bit.

Picked up a GX85 today at Best Buy- they've had them in stock all week! I saw it on their website a few days ago, but assumed it was an error until I called the store and they told me they had two in stock; their website just gave me an error when I tried to order online for pickup.
I'm liking it so far, I think I'm going to return my X-Pro2 I got the other week, I need a proper video camera. I haven't had much of a chance to shoot yet, but I'll post the clips that I have in a bit.

After reading Andrew's newest post about the Mark IV, I went back to check my rx100 and sure enough he's right, I've got my numbers all wrong here- my old A7s started at ISO3200 for sLog2, and the RX100 starts at ISO1600... so my video above is at ISO1600.
sLog2 by default is noisier than others, but not necessarily in a bad way.

It has only one ND setting, that being on/off; the ND filter is rated for 3 stops, though, if thats what you mean.
At 1600, there may be some noise, but nothing that seems unreasonable or surprising; I mean, at 1600, you're already getting pretty high up there in ISO. Coming from my old A7s which started at 1600 in sLog, starting here at 800 is much more manageable. My video above was ISO800 I'm sure, with ND filter on, probably shot at a higher shutter speed, like 1/250 or something, not the usual 1/50 that I would've preferred.
 
Still has rolling shutter when shooting 4k (as you can see in my video in some spots), but at 1080 rolling shutter really is absent.