jgharding

options: 4K at 25p 205mbps or 305mbps 1080p at 50p/50mbps 50i/35mbps and 25p/35mbps Doesn't seem to be a "world cam" so I only get PAL here. Clog available in all modes

4K fills up cards quickly as bitrate is very high, 1080p25 is 35mbps and 4K can be 10-times that, so you won't get as much 4K footage as you will 1080p. I use similar luts on C100 and XC10 Clog. XC10 is well built. I'm happy it's more robust than similar Sony cameras. The slowing of the lens at the long end is a slight niggle, but all in all it's a good B-cam for bigger C siblings. I hope for a V2 with a faster lens and higher frame rates, as the faster 720p footage is a bit too noisy. I'd share some 4K now, but my card reader has gone missing! :/

Clog is great on XC10, it's like a baby C100, excpet with 50p1080 and 4K. Wide DR is broken on mine though. loads of FPN and noise. This only seems to affect Wide DR.

35 pages is a bit much for me, I have films to finish! Suffice to say, never send money through Western Union for a purchase. Just don't do it. Do not reason with yourself that it "may be OK" and so on. Private transaction are always conducted at some risk... but... DO NOT SEND MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION FOR INTERNET PURCHASES Even if this all ends up fine, the lesson must be learned. With regard to moderator action, I'm not best placed to catch up with this at the moment I'm afraid due to workload. I trust another moderator will be shortly. For now though, since this thread (bizarre as it is) includes an admission of guilt, it should not be deleted until the financial aspects are resolved satisfactoraly.

It'll be fine, dawg!

That's brilliant! Thanks for the info guys. If everything is a lot slicker I'm gonna give it another shot. I absolutely loved the grading experience, I just hated the slow process to get going and so on. You may convert me yet

Is that a question or a statement? I've not used in a while so my knowledge could be out of date... What I mean is: you had to manage projects and users in a very arbitrary way. I'd like to just bang open a project and start throwing stuff in. The last time I used it, the whole thing was needlessly complicated for my use: define a user, log in as a user, start a project, all the folders had to be manually defined and so on, it all felt slow and clunkiy. The whole thing didn't seem as friewndly and fast as just opening a project, dragging stuff in and going. If this is no longer true though, I'll happily give it another try, in fact I hope I'm entirely worng, as the grading interface is exceptional

I'd love to use it, but the whole system of defining mediia pools and project directories and so on is very irritating coming from Premiere, where I just manage all my media and folders myself and drag and drop. They could do with making it more friendly like that in V13

Apparently Macs can use Cuda, my mistake, I'd only ever tried Premiere ones that use Open CL only that's why I thought otherwise. Open CL isn't an equivalent, it's much slower on the same machine if you switch between it and CUDA. I work with a fellow who uses FCP X on MacBook Pro, the only way he can get close to my playback speed of R3D files is by cheating and transcoding it all, or "creating optimised media". So in this particular case the speed of Premiere on my Win10 machine doesn't "approach anywher near" FCP X, it far surpasses it. He has a quicker CPU too! :O

Just use FCP X. I use Premiere, if I used a Mac I'd use FCP X for simplicity. A better grading system like Resolve is good if you like grading though. Premiere just works better on Windows than it does on OS X, as CUDA acceleration from Nvidia is available for Windows, not for OS X.

>reads post about rubber and condoms >thinks 3 self >wouldn't silicon be a better choice 5 steadicam too? >sit back and LELs

One wonders if Light Iron have got involved in the analogue gain and AD stages of the sensor too, in order to make this sensor somewhat bespoke. AFAIK Arri hold a patent on the dual-gain sensor readout (can someone confirm?), which is the technology responsible for Alexa and family still having the cleanest shadows on the market. But perhaps there are ways around it? Colour science needn't just be a digital thing!

I can fully understand people wanting to use Macs, as you don't have to do much to make them work. FCP X is a great system, though of course it's not really native a lot of the time, but hat doesn't matter in practive. It's very fast for AVCHD now. The only issues is you'll probably need to upgrade Mac sooner it becomes underpowered more quickly. I'm using an Alienware R15 2 laptop, and it's docked to a Graphics Amplifier with a Titan X when I'm at home. It has two M.2 SSDs and a hard disk in it. The five macro keys are bound to editing shortcuts I use regularly. They really are great editing machines, I happily edit Red Raw native with a grade on it. With such a machine you're approaching the price of a Mac, but it is really bloody fast. OS X is undeniably a nicer OS, but Win10 is also very good now. I would use a Mac, but to get the kind of power listed I'd need to spend a vast amount of cash. Are you in Premiere? Do you see much benefit from SLI at all compare to a single 960? Have you tested? Just curious to see how SLI improves playback. SLI isn't an option for me, but I am interested.

Yes that's just stills. The XC10 is a video camera that allows you to take 4K JPEGS as an extra. It's not strictly speaking a hybrid like the RX10. This is a video site, so stills aren't really the focus. If you like to take stills too, maybe this will affect your decision. I sold an RX100 ii to buy an XC10 and and very glad I did. It's so much easier to use and the results just work, no hours of fixing colour in post.

Amazing! I'm sure I'll never touch one, but it's nice to see Red licensing that amazing codec. I wonder if they'll license to others? 8K is crazy when you thing about a TV, but it's a smart bet when you consider VR production. That'll be at 4K per eye or more in a generation or so. Resolution is no longer about panels across the room, but stereoscopic screens right next to your eyes behind fresnel lenses. In this location, even 8k might not be enough...

At risk of derailing, the new Panasonic Varicam remains the high-end cam I've not tried. It's just not as common as the others, but the image from all tests I've seen is spectacular. Hopefully as much of this can trickle down into the consumer Panasonic models as possible.

Amira is like a lighter, simpler Alexa. Amira is just a beautiful, even the 200fps looks amazing from it, and you can get upscaled 4k that looks better than some native 4K. here's an unused shot from a shoot on Amira. This is 1080p i beleive 200fps 422HQ in log. Try it out! This link will work in about an hour. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9922139/A002C001_160503_R4SJ.mov You can move colour all over the place, the latitude is incredible. It's pretty heavy though so not suitable for everything, but in pure image terms I'd give it the number-one spot.

Yeah I use Canon too as they're great to use and the footage looks brilliant. Indeed I sold an RX10 ii and got an XC10 precisely because of what you describe. The comparison is more a specific comparison of the behaviour of the odd "fanboys" who will say that a negative is actually a positive, and will try to turn something that's clearly a minus into a plus, than it is a comparison of the products themselves.

I have exactly this setup. The Mir has masses of distortion and vignetting but can look cool. The rest work well, though colour varies a lot between them.

It seems 4K is guaranteed by the trusted sources. Lack of Clog is pretty much guaranteed too, but other nice profiles will be available. TBH I've shot c-log in anger once in the years I've had C100s and that was with external recorder, as long as there's as something like VisionColor it'll have nice options. The biggest issue is the lack of usability software, like peaking and zebras and so on. If it doesn't have these basics, it'll be a pretty poor choice for many video situations. Buying it because you hope Magic Lantern will hack it is not good for anyone. It tells Canon it's fine to not bother adding essential features and it leaves the purchaser with a half functioning camera and fingers crossed. Canon apologists are becoming a bit like Apple fanboys, who throw themselves on the altar everytime they're given a kick in the nuts and tell everyone how "it's actually a good thing it has no ports and has half the power of a PC and cost me twice as much". I can hear it now "I actually like not having peakeing, I can work hard to focus, I don't need proper video controls, this frees my creativity to think about the image". You're not fooling anyone, theoretical strawman fanboy I just invented. Buying a camera is not the time to turn the other, already rather sore, cheek.

+1 on for sale sub forum. on other topics it can indeed fracture the community, but for gear sale a single post per sale item makes sense. Works well over at reduser lenses has an argument for it too, as it's just such a big topic.

Oh yeah I've been ranting at people ad nauseum, in the end I just say "look, come over when I have mine, and when you get home, you'll be working out how to get one" You talk about it and it sounds cool, but when you experience it you realise the world isn't going to be the same once it's caught on. Everywhere from remote military control, to surgeons, to entertainment... the list is endless.

I had about an hour on it and then ordered it. VR will completely change the world of work and entertainment, it's so exciting after the drab 3DTV malarket was DOA. I never got into that, it was just obviously not going to happen, but this... well you use it and then everything has just changed. EDIT: Malarket! an accident but i like it: malarkey + market = malarket.

Haha happy to help! This drove me mad once a few years ago, took me a while to crack what was happening!

I have a Vive on preorder on the way soon, so will definitely try this out!