Emanuel

I placed it if it is worthy...

But,

I actually wonder if,

is the price difference worth?

For the form factor I guess so, but what about the audio output aka sound quality of such tiny convenience?

"The microphones measure 1.81 by 0.87 by 0.59 inches (HWD) and weigh 0.29 ounces, which makes them smaller and lighter than DJI’s mics (1.81 by 1.57 by 0.89 inches, 0.99 ounces)"

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Is it worthy?

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5 hours ago, seanzzxx said:

I mean I like this guy's style but he is a sales person through and through. Manufacturer sends him gear, he's hyped over the moon THIS ONE THING WILL CHANGE FILMMAKING FOREVER, and on to the next thing

I don't see him (this guy in particular) like that, I mean, take a look on his other videos on NAB topic :- )

@PannySVHS A kid in the toy store! haha Loved the (whole ; ) analogy, Marty! LOL

And I will add now something very straightforward to it... People here, there and everywhere tend to love the wrong ones... Feeling ourselves strictly excited for corporations sound to me like a man to have fantasies with the neighbour's wife rather than praising and paying attention to the wife who is the housekeeper and takes care of the children at home... ; ) The example of the recent purchase of RED by Nikon is the fine example of it, like to see some family business, after all, to be gone, this may occur in something good for the whole indie world... * Sigh * : X 

I believe " a bit " : D of education about what filmmaking actually is, I guess, it wouldn't hurt at all...

It is what it is! :- )

Recently shown at NAB... What about to show a little bit of love for the most interesting brand for indies maybe ever? ; )

At times, people here and in other forums wonder about what this can have in common with cinema... Well, filmmaking is not only fancy outcome for sure and I give you now an example with the release of this feature film in the Japanese market and how BTS material can help making the trick happen...

MAKE-BELIEVERS' BTS/making-of

Imagine what that could happen for BTS stuff acquisition (because we need it for selling movies!) with a mere tool like this one -- as simple as this newly listed no-brainer buy:

Is the only device we need? Of course, not! BTW don't try to mimic those close-up shots going so wider angle for sure... LOL : ) But in the end of this video, the YouTuber gives a fair idea how this is a mandatory toy or tool...

Reframing, at the computational side of the things, creatives ones included, is not only the future but the current one now already.

It will surely depend on the way you get your creativity fine.

Don't count on less ; )

But it is here nowadays and there's no a unique reason to wait for something better to come no doubts, just not not yet available today as this one, at the sole range of your click ;- )

PS yet to you @kye... these toys must be seen as complementary tools, no other because it is what they are.

Specialty capture devices.

They don't replace anything but they can help when others don't or cannot.

The point is to know if they are ready to couple with or not yet.

I think they can do the trick already even though when they don't excel.

Fair is fair : )

I haven't found replace for my One X2 either. Just 100% of the cases, no footage to use.

I think this time the thing has reached a different level, not the optimal nor the sweet spot but enough to get the job done when needed under strict control, obviously :- )

I don't doubt, mate, no worries @kye I understand you and even fully concur your concern for sure, well seen and said : )

However, what puzzles me is what I've seen it from these devices.

There are surely limitations but looks like they actually shine for what they are.

I usually divide between usable and unusable.

This time 8K and 4K 100fps acquisition seem to me fairly usable under certain circumstances not for delivery at same resolution, of course ; )

When before only for internal consumption aka no professional use at all, no resolution is able to save the grace, as matter of fact :- )

For low light, there's the 8K output from Ace Pro, even though they usually don't recommend it, I do ; )

8K acquisition helps ANY cinematic properties with detail, processing... without mention the fine grain which is always welcome to overcome the customary artifacts seen going along such tiny sensor size form factor devices ;- )

Indeed, looks like a game changer...

WOW Indeed! Nice to know : ) Please post your findings, thanks! I am in course for one or a couple of them...

38 minutes ago, gt3rs said:

First thing I did is to set it to 8k 30, highbitrate and sharpens to low.

Right, on the spot, who wants it for less (under the right settings), other than higher frame rate acquisition? Higher resolution is always useful not necessarily for delivery but for handling it before :- )

5 hours ago, kye said:

The first thing I checked?

....and the last thing I checked.

I've posted practically the same thing on every one of these releases, but the principle remains.  If you crop in to the image, like 99.99% of shots will be, then the resolution doesn't matter, the bitrate does.

8K at 200Mbps cropped to a 90 degree FOV (about a 24mm lens) is 2K at around 12Mbps.

Anyway @kye remember this time it's H.265...

Without mention there are some inspiring/promising shots out there which looks to put it at the Ace Pro level, at least under sun light...

Let alone some specific usage for certain purpose such as frame rate (4K100fps) this time under usable output coupled to different reframe possible options along the capability of introducing a few camera movements within the framing itself. Now at acceptable outcome?

Many times we need some device doing it by itself 'cause you're simply operating something else.

I guess overheating concerns are prone to be more of an issue (when you'll want to buy the new toy only for 8K or 4K 100fps) you can overcome though, with the purchase of two units anyway and yet try to play with 3D acquisition when that's not a trouble, isn't it? ;- )

News in the last 24 hours... new resignation:

«Over the past 18 years, I have had the privilege of being immersed in one of the most groundbreaking underdog tech-success stories of all time. Against all odds, a small, tactical group of like-minded individuals transformed into a focused army targeted at revolutionizing the cinematography and photography industries. We watched from the inside as RED DIGITAL CINEMA emerged from the vapor, and forged itself into an industry titan. I would like to thank Jim Jannard and Jarred Land for a life-defining opportunity and embodying the essence of true product and brand design pioneers. Constantly walking on the edge of accepted reality and questioning the fabric of the universe was the minimum price of entry. Huge congratulations go to NIKON for acquiring the best camera company in existence. I have decided to resign from the post of Chief Design Officer and confidently pass the torch on to the next generation of disruptors to evolve, grow, and metamorphose within NIKON. Thank you to everyone who has embraced and supported our unorthodox methodologies, and mechanical sculpture that defines the design language of RED’s light-devouring beasts.»

~ Matthew Tremblay -- Chief Design Officer: RED Digital Cinema (2006-2024)

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Arrived: https://www.insta360.com/product/insta360-x4#x4_compare

I think this was pretty predictable since Ace Pro had arrived (one of my favs along Osmo Pocket + One X2, yes, and now to replace it with this upgrade):

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/promotion/19087/exclusive-insta360-camera-unveiling.html832

MAKE-BELIEVERS (written and directed by Kenjo McCurtain) ahead of its international release, arrives to Japanese theatres in Tokyo... this weekend!

Ikebukuro Cinema Rosa from April 13th on:

https://www.cinemarosa.net/lateshow.htm

〒171-0021 Tokyo, Toshima City, Nishiikebukuro, 1 Chome−37−12 1F

https://www.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x60188d5e7c59b97f:0x444ba64953c2a2b?sa=X&ved=1t:8290&ictx=111

Here's the main Japanese press so far (on cinema websites):

https://www.cinematoday.jp/video/VIY8cXeVLddwgI

https://natalie.mu/eiga/news/566550

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/6b24b1ab0e15e180d2f332e504f32348ec519a6b

Here's our official X account:

https://x.com/yumemibito2024

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11530452/

https://www.shirokumafilms.com/

3 hours ago, kye said:

Congratulations!! 

Thanks but the compliments must be addressed to Kenjo McCurtain to begin with. "The man" behind this piece of work. I've just tried to serve of a little help : )

There's team work, of course. So, everyone also has a role to play there for sure. This is the outgrowth of a collective effort without doubt. To each their own, anyways :- )

in Tokyo: https://www.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x60188d5e7c59b97f:0x444ba64953c2a2b?sa=X&ved=1t:8290&ictx=111

https://www.shirokumafilms.com/

Let them stand in their beach. The most unique cinematic is the less competition we have... LOL : )

BTW...

MAKE-BELIEVERS will have national release in Japan...

Ikebukuro Cinema Rosa on April 13th.

https://www.cinemarosa.net/lateshow.htm

〒171-0021 Tokyo, Toshima City, Nishiikebukuro, 1 Chome−37−12 1F

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11530452/

4 hours ago, kye said:

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Make Art Now also got a reasonable frame with the Insta360 Ace Pro by putting a diopter on it to shorten the focal distance:

But, in the end, it's what's in front of the camera that matters 🙂 

Lurking these boards these cold days over here since I unfortunately had the loss of my life... one's of very own* mourning path, last month* : (

...it's rewarding to see that our posts from more or less recent past don't go away so unnoticeable at least over here, after all:

Just to give my regards @kye and to the rest of the gang :- )

*in Portuguese

Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., who cares? They are all face of the same coin IMHO.

Only rare ones remain for now to my book, for some reason I am a Blackmagic customer and happy camper TBH : )

To me, they are the flagship of this business today, for us indies of such particular industry as the segment of this craft is :- )

*passionate camera manufacturers (pardon my dyslexia : D) but passionate manufacturers, well, you can guess it will hardly be forgotten and found so soon again ;- )

1 hour ago, Django said:

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That is great news for consumers and further increases my desire to switch to Nikon. 

Consumers? Prosumers? Or craftsmen/professional players? ; )

I usually tend to mistrust of corporate goodwill... Really : )

Jim and Jarred have been camera passionate manufacturers. Who else now?