Emanuel

I found his video very long. Much yadda yadda. To me. Couldn't hold for long. Others think the same of me! LOL So, all OK : ) Out of curiosy, I even had to go back (either outside there or here abovementioned and posted) for so much buzz... 

A short note anyway: if I'd write the history of this release, I wouldn't focus on his subscribers mark, not even the criticism about the guy. Only the cons of this camera. How to overcome it, no less. And how this compares with the competition (with... not compared to ; )

That and the recent Z8 talk here on EOSHD is something much more interesting IMHO.

The pros, we're already aware of it in a camera release launched this year of 2025.

47 minutes ago, Ninpo33 said:

I have the 35mm f/1.9 as well. Both of ours are probably made by Komine for Vivitar. Does your serial number start with 28XXX? Great lens. I also have the 24mm f/2 and the 28mm f/2 from the same time period both made by Kiron for Vivitar: Series 1 I only have the Bokina and the 135mm f/2.3. I think these will start to be creeping up in price soon due to people finally finding them. : )

Same here for those f/2... Totally agree, but you're still able to find them for $100 :- )

9 hours ago, andrgl said:

I'm tempted to buy a Z6 III with an E-mount adapter for the Sigma 28-45mm F1.8.

Would prefer to have a native option.

This is more or less a similar dilemma to me... In love with that piece made of glass, Z8 (vs S1RII) becomes an alternative for using it along E-mount... A strong minus for L-mount ecosystem without adapters to be compatible with.

3 hours ago, Emanuel said:

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EDIT -- OK, here is then:

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So, keep going strictly on topic about this camera, seems interesting to have available some kind of test with the different coverage of vintage glass as for instance, for those different crops (1:04, 1:10, 1.11, 1.17, 1.31, 1.52, 1.65), wouldn't it be? If not for all : P at least for those to mainly be used. As earlier mentioned by two of us, RS can even be irrelevant. Let's not mention the shooting style now but the selectable recording mode chosen.

I don't even mention from my experience with a particular L-mount camera of my own : D but OM or Adaptall-2 to L-mount are two fine examples of affordable glass options, already existent, we can use it right there :- )

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

With all due respect... It's not a forum about you, but about cameras.

Let's start thinking about what is interesting to read and insightful for the 100s of people reading or researching at this moment, and what is pages and pages of personal exposition with no relation to the topic of cameras.

We can discuss Gerald, he is very much on topic... including this one, as he has reviewed the S1R II.

"UK (from London to Belfast) is my official residence and Malta will follow at same time for soon, very likely. With a few productions a bit spread all over EU and East Europe to include Moscow and Kyiv"

This isn't S1R II related.

It's about you.

Let's not always make stuff about ourselves shall we?

That came from my answer to other user who directly addressed a personal question to me I politely answered him. I am used to answer everyone because I think it's not cool to let anyone without reply. Same for the topic about Gerald. I even agree with you that sometimes people are focused on the reviewers than the gear itself. Let alone reviews... This one liked this, that one liked that. WTH serves this reviewer's likings or the other one?

I think we can learn with the experience of each other, so I try to talk about what I'm doing just for the sake to share. Also for letting some other users do it if they feel like. More in the sense to share, give and not expecting to come here to collect and collect.

The same for my interest to read from you on your findings about the cameras you don't like included : ) TBH at times, I think it's more useful to hear what someone doesn't like and has to say about this or that, that the other way round = D People call it feedback : ) but there are many Olivias named with the same name...

Maybe one of the reasons me and many others come here?

I believe people are a bit uninterested with the customary praise after praise to each camera release. Like that will finally boost their careers! : D 

Oh gosh, well, on the main topic then (not that the career of people is or not for any use), but you haven't answered yet if you intend or don't know yet if you'll test the S1RII?

I am thinking to buy the camera as many others who come here, so listen you really helps! : ) And your recent Z8 bet only fuels such interest even more... I can't obviously talk in the name of anyone else here, so only by myself ; ) that both cameras are exactly the ones I mainly focus today.

Hope this won't sound self-centered 'cause looks like that can happen to be inferred from my written speech. You know we are not all the same. The world would be poor without many colours. Intentions are always a bit tricky to be translated in the written communication. We have no everyone the same level of speech, with different cultural backgrounds, etc., so I try my best. My apologies if I don't succeed to reach this or that level of satisfaction of whom we would like to. But it's not easy either if you or anyone here currently address me whatever topic is : D despite my pleasure to talk to you all, go figure off topic! LOL But I will try to behave : ) also because of you! I guess the fact I've addressed my fair concerns on this camera topic just now along the previous posts (not for looking like just fine in the picture) expresses very well such goodwill and even agreement (you can say it) about that. Yes, in behalf of what we're doing here :- )

49 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

@Emanuel RS in 6K/4K 60p full frame is around 15.5ms, so pretty good and not an issue for most scenarios. I am not fond of the 22ms in 24p 8k/4k, especially not the latter. What I could take away from the online footage is a lush creamyness of textures which I really like, a high resolution without oversharpening.

In fact, same here : ) And seems 6K 50p or 60p can be an interesting route to justify it ; ) I second what you say, mate, so it's under my radar these days...

This customary specs list is always a pain for lacking what FF and crop (thinking about those new anamorphic AF releases, OK I confess! LOL ; ) is, respectively, from there:

EDIT -- OK, here is then:

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As Andrew has defended, that massive ProRes bitrate is a source of concern no doubt... I wonder (and following their video tradition and customer care) if not possible to overcome it along next firmware updates?

So much vintage love is plainly mouthwatering... LOL ; )

Pity that L mount is still fresh in this business. There are rumors on the last announcement that the 5th new brand to join the L-Mount Alliance can happen to be Viltrox... that would bring some freshness and affordable options for ; )

RS coming from S1RII doesn't bother me so much, even though a few report it as unusuable but of course, depends a lot of the use you do under your shooting style. However, many other cons brought to the equation can diminish any potential enthusiasm for a new Panasonic release, as Andrew has pointed out on his article. I can't wait to see more of it!

6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Why do we need to know this?? Lol.

 

Sorry Andrew, two birds with one stone... Gerald's subtopic or subplot and my request already left in my previous post to see you testing the camera! : ) You're right! Why bother with the usual marketing channels? And also my enthusiasm to see you and many other people here but for real and at full colour! :- )

9 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

I got the Vivitar 1 alteration of the Bokina. I'd call it the steelhammer version. It is so robust and tough. Mine has a ca 1/3" × 1/4" × 1/4" chunk of steel chipped off miraculously by a former owner, maybe in a steelhammer manner. It still operates like a charm. This lens is crazy regarding built. What a beasty lens. I have only used it once or twice many years ago. I must change that. Which Viv I lenses do you have? @Ninpo33We could do a piece and share it here with the others.

I got the Bokina and a Vivitar 35mm 1.9, which wouldnt consider the in the same league as the Bokina. I'm pretty sure the 35mm is not a lens from the I series. The 28mm F2 looks beautiful. Must be a pleasure to hold and use.

It's a shame I left that gem collecting dust. As it comes to my mind, I even have a converter for it, changing it into a 60 or 65mm lens. This lens is a good reason for some solid tripod fun!

Man, do we meet? When? ; ) Tomorrow I will meet some Polish EOSHD user I crossed my life with over these same pages. He will be with his Fuji and I will be with my FX30 and some vintage glass, that is, if I will locally find an adapter till tomorrow... I am done with Amazon's local courier (CTT Express failed their delivery for today!).

Any pics from those setups BTW?

PS: Andrew could organise a meeting for those users interested to test my spoken English skills! LOL ;- )

17 hours ago, ntblowz said:

If Blazer come in L mount that would be really nice

They have it in their roadmap.

17 hours ago, ntblowz said:

I m not a fan of that hex bokeh from the 40mm either, luckliy they fixed it with the 20mm which shows oval bokeh

Looks like an exciting improvement indeed!

17 hours ago, ntblowz said:

One downside when using anamorphic desqueeze in Sony, you lose both AF and IBIS. But on Panasonic you still get AF and Anamorphic specific IBIS

 

We only have some 3rd party app solution to solve it, I'm afraid because that's a Sony firmware thing till they decide for an update if any:

https://monitorplus.cc/

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Can we easily ignore it?

I mean you just spent nearly the entire last page talking about your work.

Sure : ) I live my work with passion. I couldn't live without it. I don't lose a single opportunity to live it or interact with other people sharing the same vibe for. But we cannot expect the same from everyone. Unfortunately, even stealing hours of sleep and to my family. I don't think it's even healthy that obsession about it, so I tend to refrain myself but it's like a drug, I'm afraid to admit it.

Your forum has something those other places don't have. The enthusiasm of the people here. It's alive and vivid.

Some other aspect, it's a tough craft, so we have need for that attention, I guess. The most effective paycheck. I don't do it for money. But I believe we cannot think the entire world outside us is like that.

Speaking of your enthusiasm, including when you hint to not prone to like it. And also because something we should never forget -- no matter the plot, hence focus on the outline. So, all about the story structure in benefit of us who share that (I've got it and on the line you now introduced in your edited post to pair my answer to @wolf33d already left, so let's easily move on : ) any chance for a shootout between your Z8 and the S1RII? I speak by myself obviously but I think I can also do it on behalf of many others here, we have more need of some review from someone like you rather than the usual marketing channels out there.

27 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Yeah that's fine. Don't bore me with it though.

Indeed : ) We can easily ignore that. As for instance, I usually don't have patience for his reviews but I eat each word of yours! ; ) Even when/if I don't fully agree... even though, I must concur I often agree with most part of your observations : )

Passion can make the difference but there is place for everyone, well, except bad students! : D I firmly hate them! :- )

33 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

I don't think it's nonsense at all. Cameras exist to create art. If you're not interested in creating art with them then why dedicate your time to them? 

It's like someone owning a bunch of guitars but not knowing, and having no desire to learn, how to play them. 

Oh God, lot of people have zero interest about some topic but they need to have a living, you know? : )

In a different tone, I understand your perplexity though : )) This business is tough like hell, so how someone is able to survive without passion? ; )

People have no need to know how to play a guitar for selling them!

You need knowledge but for your craft. The camera world is much beyond a creative field, it is a complex business instead : )

PS: I've found the best professionals among people who actually don't appreciate art or have need for. And those who love it, the most part of the usual bunch of idiots we can find, unfortunately. I'm sorry to write that but it is what it is. From my own experience, of course! ; )

Moreover, a lot of the most important players of this industry, they don't like those who think creation is everything in life, but on the opposite : P 

A last interesting note albeit also the fact the best students are those who really love the art, the leftover is a PITA, that is, from my experience as instructor :- )

19 hours ago, wolf33d said:

Sure, @ landcapturer on IG you can see my photography. If you like landscapes you will be served.
Travel videos like the Cuba one, I do not do them so much anymore. I love to film, so I filmed a full video in Japan, in New Zealand, In Taiwan and other places. I have hundreds of hours of footage but it's all unedited. The truth is I enjoy the video shooting but not so much the video editing. So the only thing I edit is paid work, but that is not my main job, so rare thing once a year.

For overheating, they fixed most of the overheating issue but even before that it was never a big deal for me. I shoot clips that are 20 seconds, not 20 minutes. I have never done an interview or something like that so it never bother me especially after the update. 

Where do you live?

I am typing you right now from Portugal for family reasons but Rome is where I mostly intend and like to be as much as possible : )

UK (from London to Belfast) is my official residence and Malta will follow at same time for soon, very likely. With a few productions a bit spread all over EU and East Europe to include Moscow and Kyiv as well all ex-YU as supplier from 2005 until the beginning of the current war. Brazil for this last decade. U.S. (NJ and Florida) where I run two warehouses of gear and film business altogether. Asia is one of my preferred markets (Japan and China but not only ; ) and I've also produced a couple of feature films in NZ. I prep some feature to come soon I hope in Australia, a country that I fairly appreciate to work with : ) I've never lived there but I have assets distributed in one of the most reliable locations this market is, without mention I love Aussies! :- )

Yes, I think he is in his own right to only be a seller or using his channel to promote whatever he feels like. The fact everyone thinks because someone is somehow connected with cameras needs to be an artist is pure nonsense and even some lack of knowledge how an industry works. There are children of a lot of mothers : ) Hope my English is not lost right now! LOL ; ) Without everyone, our craft is impossible to become a reality. Thanks to God we need of all in order to also bring bread to our families. This is what to be a professional means. Respect for every departments. And even the amateurs are entitled to exist too!

I dunno, I think people ain't only looking for a phone but they are not aspiring filmmakers, that's for sure!

They just sell their content to make happy the same billionaires who decide nowaways the future of our planet as never before.

Smartphones should be named small swiss army knife instead. Mars is coming.

I've just jumped thanks to your post now... on both E and L mounts also? 

(this guy here says that covers full frame... nonetheless, that hexagonal bokeh looks like a bit as weird as those mirror zoom) 

Maybe yes straight to the cart, no idea yet, maybe not and checking the reviews to begin with. 

Although, L mount is also promised on the side of Blazar, without mention the 50mm f/1.8 is better than the Sirui 40mm f/1.8.

A mix with the Sirui 20mm f/1.8 + the Blazars 35mm f/1.8 (yet to come in 2025) + 50mm f/1.8:

it is a hell of a set to couple AF to anamorphics for first time available at this level :- )

3 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I don't think any camera company could enter the phone market and be successful at this point. As @ND64 mentioned, even the Chinese companies are having trouble. Heavy hitters like Microsoft and Google have tried to enter the market to little success; Microsoft failed while Google has a very small piece of the market despite being the primary developer of Android. And I think trying to appeal to folks that want better photos and videos is such a small niche that I don't think it'd work.

How come? Well, cameras are one of the main points for marketing to each release... ;- )

11 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

DJI do make cameras, they don't just try.  The Osmo Pocket 3 is, from what I've heard, one of the most popular cameras on the planet these days.  The Ronin 4D is also pretty excellent and the "chicken head" camera is becoming a staple on productions, both from low budget scrubs like me to Hollywood films that will play in theaters nationwide.

That Osmo Pocket 3 is one of the most interesting devices I've ever owned, practically with me for everywhere and always ready for a ride like a crazy bitch! : ) Don't quote me, just a bot! ;- )

Firmware age. Designed like that or priorities of their own... I guess? : ) We always have distinct paths to arrive there, anyway ; ) Maybe a future update, who knows? Welcome to digital rage! : P 

In a different note, the recent turn to Nikonists here is really something! ; ) Sounds today, like yesterday. Any mechanical yearning or method is past now or at least discarded and... move on, let's accept that, I'm afraid, no matter the apparatus ; ) A few manufacturers are a bit more user-friendly or oldschool than others, though.

My 1st serious photo camera (Sony was my 1st prosumer video thing, 35 years before my return back to the brand almost a quarter of century later my CineAlta F900 adventure) with more than 3 decades in my hands is still here with that pentaprism... a way earlier than the current smartphones/action cams/Osmo Pockets... street photography (yet, method of a workmate of mine in those years that we organised a photograph exhibition in one of the most fancy short film festivals of the indie circuit currently implemented and one of the best worldwide class photographers I've ever seen in my entire life, still alive and kicking nowadays, as you can check by your own in that link left here...) was then used to be shot like that with a F3 (still here in all its splendid piece of machinery):

Ah that exposure compensation dial... No touch screen replaces it xD How I miss that!

Unfortunately, what is not in my hands anymore is some other device 'cause had to sell it a year later when the next V6000 model came. Thought to update my V5000 and ended to get some other self-guided walk route with my brand new MX12 then, before going to film school for learning how to manage post and become an editor/director -- those were the times when we had no YT tutorials but analogue/analog (in both English variations for not misunderstandings : D ; ) tools and serious instructors for real:

In a line, patience is the best tool of any craftsman :- )

PS: While for some reason I should have deleted the 1st part with a more comprehensive line/paragraph tone now... = D Rebuilt and back.

21 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

 

https://www.etsy.com/de-en/listing/1855353098/i-bought-this-before-elon-went-crazy

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008146930345.html

My fav personal capture device in March 2025 is my lightweight and really small FX30, guess also why? ; )

For the price of a Viltrox 27mm f/1.2 you buy three primes from 25mm up to 56mm, just 1 stop and a quarter slower, but for also for more than a quarter (4.5x less) of the weight!

I've already posted here elsewhere (another combo from there has already made me to immediately pull the trigger on that Pancake to play anamorphic dreams... who doesn't love light glass?) but now I believe it deserves its own thread and (y)our attention...

https://viltrox.com/collections/air-series-lens

Here's some honest entry to my book, he even places a disclaimer in the beginning announcing he got it for free : ) which doesn't bother me at all, his time and work is not, I figure the model neither ; )

Ah and they say this time (rather than the previous f/1.4 series for the 35mm and 56mm so with the exception of the 13mm f/1.4 already on the way to my backpack/pocket... and NOT for free! ; ) their AF is effective and silent, quiet like a mouse...

3 hours ago, wolf33d said:

Well I have been around, but this website is a bit dead, @Andrew Reid isn’t posting anymore. I agree with his panasonic post. The era of 5DII and Magic lantern and GH4s etc used to be fun. Now not so much. 
Also, as everybody here knows, I spent most of my time out here on this forum complaining for years that it was unbelievable we had good phase detect AF in one body, good IBIS in another, good 4K in another, 4K120P in another, great full frame stills in another, but nobody would release a camera with all that. Well Canon did it with the R5 5 years ago. I bought it, and stopped complaining lol. So I haven’t much to say. 

Oh actually I do have something to complain about. I am a lot into landscape drone photography/video now. For years, I have been waiting for the combination of vertical shooting (DJI Mini) with high quality (DJI Mavic PRO). Can’t believe I have to carry multiple drones. 
Fortunately DJI listened to me and is releasing the Mavic Pro 4 next month, with excellent IQ as always for the pro line and finally, yes finally vertical shooting. Jesus they took their time…

That one is an instant buy! As for my R5, I am happy with it. The R5II is a joke for me, not too much reason to upgrade. Any new camera that is being released recently is not really better than the R5 so nothing to get excited about.
Well, the R5 II is not as much of a joke as the new Sony A1 II though. Those guys managed to release the exact same camera years later for $6500 haha

LOL : ) 

BTW how do you overcome or deal the overheating? 

BTW part 2, show us your work, always pleasing... Still in memory your trip to Cuba... That said, life is not only our life, family and real life out there. Or cameras. And anything related. Reason to not be gone only because you've satisfied your need... : ) Thus, I will receive this week some buddy I met here on EOSHD a few time ago (last decade, maybe?), thanks to this forum : ) I don't speak Polish, he doesn't speak Portuguese, Italian, Spansh or French as far as I am aware, so guess mates, what set of words we will be using, well, since or for many years now (so far so good : ) as our secondary language? ; ) We don't have communication theory nor aesthetics as subjects! = D

On 3/6/2025 at 2:49 AM, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

Eu entendo você em qualquer um dos idiomas, @Emanuel 😁

(just a joke to my fellow "languager" here) 😉

Glad to know, at least you, not Brutus! LOL ; )

If that was the problem... as hinted up there : ) Language is not an exclusive of the use of idioms, neither a linguistic code is. 

Let's pay attention to the word "idiom" or "idioma" now used by you. Looks like the same word, meaning, etc., but doesn't have exactly the same meaning in English and some other structured system of vocabulary + grammar. Its usage and obviously, the meaning, both can vary.

However, the same phrase: the absence of a moot point (it would be "a ausência de um ponto de discussão discutível" or something similar) if written in Portuguese, means the same to someone who is not sync with the subject, as it is clear (maybe not exactly crystal clear to the most part of you but fair enough to a few) to be the case here : ) No translator will help : )) And in UK vs US (or U.S. in the United States : D), the meaning changes, from one to the other country, same official language though.

Just proves a lexicon can be a synonym of a myriad of different meanings what a language is or can be.

Why "is"? Literal speech. Why "can be"? Figurative speech. 

(Making it simple now.)

Moreover, language can be one's native or foreign language with a set of rules. Or a code typical phraseology used internally by some group within a professional, scientific, academic subject or domain. 

My bad to bring it outside. Also a bit of stubbornness from my side, trying to divert the discussion from there and to not simply throw it out. Without mention, I always tend to pay attention to feedback and to not ignore anyone.

I tend to forget there are crafts and players in this same industry of a different kind and distinct backgrounds. 

My passion for pictures and art form overwhelms my rationality. Just sometimes... : P

Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant. ~ Robert Louis Stevenson