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Interesting ITW of Oren Soffer here.

The big disapointment is the same form factor. I really don't like this ! I have had a pocket 4K and Pocket 6K Pro, and though they are wonderful cameras with superb image quality, I really don't like this big chunky shape, so akward to handle.

I am very exciting about this one. First camera with IBIS, ND and AF. Perfect choice for solo operator or small teams. 8K, auto ND as in the FX line, etc.

37 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

These more affordable "cine" cameras are very interesting to me, but it really drives me crazy that they lack so many video centric features. Like how do you call something a cine camera without offering DCI 4K? 

DCI 4K, waveform, False color, synchro scan, possibility to dial down noise reduction to zero...

I'm interested as an A7S III owner cause I think it's a great B-cam to it but seriously tired of Sony not giving us all those little things made possible via a simple firmware update in A7sIII, FX3 and now FX30... 

11 minutes ago, billdoubleu said:

I bet this item will see a large sales boom once the GH6 is released.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/adapter-turns-ssds-into-cfexpress

Didn't know about those adapters. Very interesting !

Everything is fine when looking at the specs. Let's see the AF reliability. if it is good, then.... Might be an interesting camera to consider.

According to 43rumors : 

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A source told me this about the soon to be announced new GH6:

- Rolling shutter is eliminated

- Not sure if they also eliminated mechanical shutter but there is a chance for it.

- And last but not least a massive improvement in AF. It may called DFD AI. They claim that tracking is 5 times better than in GH5."

 

Ok so we can basically say goodbye to the pdaf technology...
5 times faster than GH5, it litterally means nothing. They had similar claims when they introduced the Panasonic s5. How can they be that stubborn, especially for a video centric camera?
It's the only thing that prevented them to rule the video centric mirrorless game.

Another missed opportunity if it appears to be true (rated FT4).
 

1 hour ago, Django said:

Damn.. first Nokishita shutting down last month, now Canon Rumors?! WTF

Nokishita shut down? Oh snap !

Prices are insane (GH6 + 10-20 1.7 + 25-50 1.7). But the fact that you have to submit a short piece without sound is quite strange.

I personnally bought a Pocket 6K Pro since a few weeks and I'm very happy with it. 

I alredy have a Sony a7sIII, and wanted another camera but not another hybrid or mirrorless camera, I wanted a dedicated cinema camera. I was torn between the fx6 (cause it's the perfect match with the Sony a7sIII), and the Canon c70 (cause I liked the small form factor and everything it offers). But when making my plans and comparisons, besides AF and battery life (though it's very manageable), the pocket 6k Pro ticked all the boxes for me, my style of shooting and the projetcs I usually work on (music videos and corporate). 

So as the price is lower than the two others I gave it a try (knowing that I previously owned a Pocket 4K for 5 months but I was doing mostly photo gigs at that time so I sold it but now I only shoot video). 

I can't regret at all. IQ is amazing, it has that depth that lacks in my Sony a7sIII footage (thought it's really good too). 

I can match the 2 cameras very easily without too much hassle, and they're very complimentary. One for more crafted visuals, more controlled shots, the other for run and gun situations, gimbal and shootings where AF is a must. 

For the price, this camera is such an incredible tool to make beautiful images. 

The Sony Fs7 is a workhorse, and has been since its release for a majority of filmmakers. But I think the Pocket 6K pro is more future proof, more versatile due to its small form factor and the price makes it a no brainer to me. 

BUT.... It all comes down to what you shoot on a daily basis and what do you expect from the camera you plan to buy. 

And why don't you consider the Canon C70?
- Quite similar Pocket 6K Pro form factor
- New future proof mount
- Good (if not excellent) DPAF
- Good dynamic range thanks to the DGO
- Records to cheap SD cards 
- Good batteries that last very long and lot of cheap third party battery brands 
- More versatile than the two you look for IMO

So nothing really new. We don't have any big surprise coming from Panasonic. Maybe the next infos about the GH6 will worth it but for what we know now it seems just to keep up with the competition.

1 hour ago, scotchtape said:

Just did more testing, A7SIII definitely needs some tweaks.

Just filmed my partner while they were on zoom calls, the A7SIII is quite sensitive which has the unfortunate effect of wobbling and pulsing the background when the subject nods (or is, you know, human).  The A7III is much less sensitive so it's actually better for interviews. I manually set the eye focus and speeds to 1 for the A7SIII and left the A7III in the default speeds. Again 50mm F1.4 and 85mm F1.8.

Hopefully more people pipe up to Sony about this and we can get another mode in there, as it stands the A7SIII isn't great in this application.  I can't believe no one else has noticed this?!

I noticed very minor pulsing sometimes but not disturbing at all even for paid jobs. It's nowhere near as what my Panasonic S1H and S5 did when it comes to pulsing. Those were great cameras but yeah I felt the need for AF in a lot of shootings. 

9 hours ago, IronFilm said:

and reporting problems found with it...

Yep the first batch might have some issues but some of them are not hardware issues so fixed with the latest firmware update. I personally tested mine the past couple of days and didn't have any issue whatsoever.

21 hours ago, stefanocps said:

Am i wrong or the 2 is not out yet?

No I've received mine since a few days. They can be found in different online stores.

I finally went back to Rode wireless Go but the newer version, as I left them in the first place last year because I needed dual transmitters. Now that they have this I'm all in, because I'v never encountered any problems with the first version of the Wireless Go. 
And now that they included the ability to record a safety track in case you encounter some dropouts, I think this is the best way to go for the budget and the skills I have. 
Maybe if you have the budget (just a little more than the Synco products that I would never recommend to anyone), go Rode.

On 2/26/2021 at 5:52 AM, IronFilm said:

"No" is my opinion of anything from Synco

I stand with ironFIlm on that one. I encountered the same issues with audio dropouts again on a mini doc and I decided to send them again, and forget about this brand, forever !!

On 3/1/2021 at 8:09 PM, ntblowz said:

Becoming the next Nomadland? 😉

Is it for some scouting? Some tests before shooting? What camera is it? Minimalist crew her with just Chloé Zhao and her cinematographer ! 😄

1 minute ago, Video Hummus said:

Simple answer, because Panasonic didn't send them a bunch of stuff and a free camera to review and return.

Really Panasonic is so frustrating. They would have fixed the shitty AF and makes real marketing strategies, they would own the video mirrorless market right now. But they don't want to change their DFD focusing tech and they are so lame at marketing themselves and their products. My S1H was a true workhorse and so close to a perfect camera. But I really felt the need for a reliable AF even though I am used to manual focus. it just makes life easier now that I switched to Sony a7SIII. 
Panasonic should really wake up.

59 minutes ago, EphraimP said:

Gerald Undone, on the hand, is still pretty good on his reviews.

This guy and a few others are actually really good I agree.

8 minutes ago, androidlad said:

There will be several major firmware updates for FX3 to differentiate it from A7S III. They are not made available at launch partly because Sony do not intend to cut into A7S III sales too much.

if that is true i may be interested in it to complement my A7SIII, but they really need to includes all the cinema things I listed above (shutter angle, synchro scan, 4k dci and waveform).

1 hour ago, Django said:

So basically a rehoused A7SIII with tally lamps, active cooling, a top handle and S-Cinetone (which is coming to A7SIII in the next firmware). Such a lazy move from Sony and honestly not worthy of the "FX" moniker. That said, for $400 extra it kind of makes the A7SIII obsolete already no? I'd be heated (no pun intended) if I just got one. See ya in couple months for the FX4.

 

I am not disapointed at all that I've bought an A7sIII 3 weeks ago. I am happy to have the EVF, and I don't feel that I have something missing compared to the FX3 for my needs.

What annoys me the most is how some youtbers in those reviews are already saying how this camera is the best mirrorless option for serious filmmaking. Cinema camera my ass ! The S1H is still the king of professional video centric mirrorless ! It has everything that this Sony FX3 doesn't have as a proper cinema camera :
- 4K DCI (even 6K)
- Anamorphic modes
- Shutter angle
- Synchro Scan
- Possibility to import Luts in camera
- waveform, etc.
How those "reviewers" could forget how much the S1H is more suited to professional video shootings than this FX3 !

1 hour ago, SteveV4D said:

Why I rarely watch YouTube pieces such as the one linked above.  It tells me little and it's primary purpose is to sell the camera for the manufacturer, and increase subscribers and viewers for the vlogger.  Even the useful ones that tell me something tend to make me cringe with their same 'what's up Guys' style.

Yeah I didn't even watch the "review" I posted above, those guys makes me sick. 

22 minutes ago, Llaasseerr said:

At this point I would definitely still look at the FX6 over this camera though.

Totally !