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Battery life only last 1hr with 4k.. so need either PD powerbank or charge battery often.
R7 battery life on the other hand last ages, R5 was on 2nd battery and R7 still on 1st battery when shooting the reception, both shooting 4k25p.
To me the weight saving alone is totally worth it, atm I m shoot 3 out of 6 days so far, the 277g weight saving make a difference to me as I m not as exhausted vs using R5.  So now I m tempted to get RS3 mini to have even more weight saving.

For a height comparison, these are the three relatively small stereo mics I use, mounted on my Pana G9 (which is around the same size as an S5).
Tascam TM-2x (cardioid capsule X-Y stereo, plug-in power). Overall the most flexible, with a switchable low-cut filter, two sensitivity settings and a shock mount that works.

Boya BY-PVM50 (cardioid capsule X-Y stereo, uses LR44 battery). The 3.5mm jack is at the rear centre of the barrel, and the mic can be moved forward and back in the shock mount.

Boya BY-MM3 (omni capsule stereo, plug-in power). This is overall the smallest/lightest/least obtrusive, but as it's non-directional it's only really suitable for 'ambient sound' recording.

Battery life only last 1hr with 4k.. so need either PD powerbank or charge battery often.
R7 battery life on the other hand last ages, R5 was on 2nd battery and R7 still on 1st battery when shooting the reception, both shooting 4k25p.
To me the weight saving alone is totally worth it, atm I m shoot 3 out of 6 days so far, the 277g weight saving make a difference to me as I m not as exhausted vs using R5.  So now I m tempted to get RS3 mini to have even more weight saving.

Just got the R8 today and use it for an Indian Ceremony, shot most of it in 4K50P and the heating indicator only goes up to 1 bar so that is not bad.
So much lighter vs the R5 on gimbal, I can felt the weight saving!
 

Hitchcock rolling in his grave

Just got the R8 today and use it for an Indian Ceremony, shot most of it in 4K50P and the heating indicator only goes up to 1 bar so that is not bad.
So much lighter vs the R5 on gimbal, I can felt the weight saving!
 

I agree with Django that feels like home video vibe, I really dont like the 50p/60p mode on youtube except for sports which i dont mind.
Good thing in PAL land is 25P still feel cinematicish vs 30p on NTSC

As a Canon shooter, seeing the phrase cripple hammer in a Sony thread is pure comedy for me 🤣, my how times have changed in the Canon world. 
I have nothing else to add to this thread since I know nothing about Sony cameras and I am quite satisfied with my current Canon setup, but I will be disappointed if Canon does not add the FW features that are in the R6II to the R5 and R7.  Not a big loss, but it would still be disappointing. It would not surprise me if Canon doesn't do a single thing for the R7 due to its price point but the R5 is a different story.
So yes, other than Panasonic who literally throws everything but the kitchen sink into every camera they make, I think all camera manufacturers look at the cost vs reward ratios of effort vs additional sales and at the end of the day that bottom line is what drives their priorities. Quite frequently its us consumers that get left behind. Fortunately camera's are so good on day one these days that most FW updates are nice to haves vs necessities.

Being a Sony apologist isn't particularly professional, either. You've argued that the A7siii isn't meant for professionals, even though the very first thing Sony said in it's marketing material was how this camera is for "movie makers."
You've then faulted people for not immediately selling their A7siii and buying the FX3, because apparently that's a reasonable thing to expect people to do less than a year after they dropped $3500 on the A7siii. Frankly it's pretty ridiculous for Sony to have released the FX3 in the first place just six or so months after the A7siii, given it was pretty much the same camera in a different body, but that's a debate for another day.
And now you're faulting folks, many who use the camera professionally, for feeling burnt because they dare "whine" about features being withheld from their flagship cameras but not entry level ones even though it could be easily done in a firmware update.
This is silly. @Andrew Reid you should check to see if his IP address is located at one of Sony's headquarters! 😉

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, camera change!
Nothing new, just going back to my old (used) set up.
I had just purchased another S1H to go with the one I already had, plus an S5ii...and was in the process of selling my pair of S1R's but...
The 'new' S1H has some issues so is going back and after 2 jobs this season, realised 4 cameras with the lenses available in L Mount, is better than 3 cameras.
Oh well, back to what works because as they say, if it ain't broke...
The only system I can do a 3 camera set up is Sony + Tamron, but then I'd have to make a YouTube video, "Why I Switched".

People can repeat that until they're blue in the face but it won't suddenly make it true. 

Did you try adding “Cinematic vs iPhone vs ARRI vs Full Frame smash that like button buy my LUT that I created with ChatGPT should you still buy this vintage one year old camera in 2023” to your search term ?
A lot of stuff gets lost because people are trying to create titles that incorporate the phrases du jour that they hope will get them up the search rankings.
“Avoid these five scams when using the GH6 for stealth van life with otters” etc
From what I’ve seen, the “GH6 vs xyz” is the richest seam to mine as at least you get comparative stuff against known entities like the P4K etc.

The issue was with light streaking when a bright area is adjacent to a dark area. I was able to reproduce it on my cam but never saw it in real world footage. I'm not sure if some cameras are affected more than others, but people were having conniptions about it on FB and YT.
I think it's such a pity that phase AF did not make into the GH6 as it would have reinforced the iconic GH line's standing.
Ha ha! No! Not for the GH6 or any other camera these days. People just make videos about cameras, it seems 😂 Joking aside, there was Olan Collardy's launch video for the GH6.
 
 
I mainly use mine for work and holiday stuff, but I did shoot this with an Isco 36 and gave it a bit of filmic colour treatment, grain etc.
 

Every time I get the itch to acquire an OG Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera I decide that a GM1 or GM5 would be a much more sound purchase. I have never been able to find either of these cameras, used, for what I would consider a decent price. Three weeks ago the sweet little thing below popped up at a more than reasonable price and I snagged it quickly. It's essentially brand new. The kit lens was never even taken off. I bought a 20mm pancake for it and have been using it for stills ever since. At first I didn't like the blue but I've grown to like to look of it. This thing is quite an engineering marvel and it would be amazing to see a 4k version from Panasonic sooner than later.

Personal cam is R5 and R7 for freelance and travel
At work using C70 and R5C.

Current totals and some very shallow analysis.




Not much overlap between what is used and what is discussed, and not much respect for what people are actually using.

Never without it when shooting under tropical sun
 

There are good and bad things about it, I definitely get why people dread it, but it's the future. Social media is how they get their feet wet and THEN that's when their world opens up to filmmaking and videography. I mean, we're already seeing it happen. People who think my friend is a rare example aren't paying attention.
 
You're still missing the point. No one is saying you buy one camera and that's it. Someone starting their video journey though probably shouldn't have to purchase a whole new camera in a year or two because the camera they spent $2200 on can't record for extended periods or in hot conditions without overheating. At least not in 2023, anyway. 
People need to stop making excuses for these companies.
He's a nice enough dude, but unfortunately he's a Sony shill. I probably wouldn't take what he has to say, re: whether you should buy a camera, very seriously.

I agree, the next generation of us filmmakers will more likely have come up via a pathway of being aspiring youtubers/tiktokkers/instagrammers than because they were aspiring to be the next Richard Deakins 
The B Cam Op on the film I just finished was yet another example of exactly that, he was a fairly successful Instagram Influencer who has now transitioned over into the Camera Dept on film sets. (owns a RED Weapon and RED Komodo) 

Here's a more comprehensive list of the R5C updates via Barry Griffin's IG: https://www.instagram.com/barry_canonproimaging/
EOS R5 C Firmware Update:
Flex Zoom & CN8x15 IAS Lens support
Mount Adapter EF-EOS R 0.71x support (same lens support as EOS C70)
RF-S Lens support (RF-S 18-45mm, RF-S 18-150mm, RF-S 55-210mm)
EOS R5 Catchup update (adds features from R5’s July, Nov & March FW release)
Dual Fisheye: Enables Left/Right switching for VR recording
Improved Video/Photo mode switching
Adds Power Saving Mode
Enhanced Clear Scan resolution (improves compatibility with LED walls).
Adds Digital-Teleconverter function (adds 1.5x / 2x / 2.5x / 3x magnification)
Option to change WFM & Vectors cope size and transparency
Adds Canon 709 / BT.709 / CMT 709 (same as previous CEOS FW update)
Adds ‘G Gain’ White Balance option in Custom Picture settings
Adds subject selection via Lens Control Ring as an assignable function
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Additionally Youtuber Yusuke Osawa just released an interview he did with a Canon rep about the announced FW updates. Might be worth checking out for some: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uquTpEvgCRg
Thanks to user 'sugoroku' over at DVXuser for translating some key things not mentioned by NewsShooter or Barry Griffin. Specifically the following (take everything with a grain of salt obviously!):
"1) Extended battery life. It only works with XF-AVC and not for RAW recording but should extend battery life up to 30% longer.
2) Two autofocus improvements. One being detecting human head more precisely especially when facing backwards and the other being focus tracking box changing its size and shape depending on the tracking subject. (around 15min. mark on the video link below)"
 

Oh man, these are pretty much all the FW updates I had hoped for!
"Improvements to the EOS R5 C include support for the EF-EOS R 0.71x Mount Adapter, faster switching time between photo and video modes, a power saving mode, 2x magnification during 8K MP4 recording and a digital-teleconverter option, maximizing flexibility by providing a quick way to increase the telephoto capability of the lens used."
https://www.newsshooter.com/2023/04/02/canon-cinema-eos-firmware-updates/?fbclid=IwAR3gafIkHuTszqC19mYmhmtG9l7H3i8U2hXb_tAwIx7NVgjY-QYm_vt9TgQ&mibextid=Zxz2cZ