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    Sony A7 IV official topic

    In: Cameras

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    I sold my A7S III and got the A7 IV instead.

    For me it has a bit more mojo. Colours, and the new sensor at 30mp. Can shoot S35 and S16mm crops without killing the image quality. 10bit, better codecs than A7R IV. Low light pretty alright, at the ISOs I need it, but not A7S III level.

    I am curious to compare it to my S1 next and see which wins the image quality battle in video mode. There are a LOT of variables though which makes these things a bit more tricky than in GH2 vs 5D Mark II days

    Discuss the latest EOSHD Articles

    In: Cameras

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    July / August 2022

    Smartphones and their growing threat to mirrorless cameras – 2022 edition

    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    2 years later – Canon quietly removes fake overheating limits of EOS R5 in firmware update

    https://www.eoshd.com/news/2-years-later-canon-quietly-removes-fake-overheating-limits-of-eos-r5-in-firmware-update/

    One step closer to WWIII – Throwback to my Taiwan footage and experience living there

    https://www.eoshd.com/youtube/one-step-closer-to-wwiii-throwback-to-my-taiwan-footage-and-experience-living-there/

    (Shot on Panasonic GH2 and Samsung NX5)

    Thoughts on the Fuji X-H2S

    https://www.eoshd.com/news/thoughts-on-the-impressive-fuji-x-h2s/

    5 Simple Forum Rules

    In: Cameras

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    Forum rules

    1. If advertising your own LUTs, camera guides or similar paid stuff please get permission from the site owner first. (Direct message Andrew Reid here!)

    2. Only long-standing trusted members are allowed to offer their kit for sale, this is to prevent abuse or fraud. If you're a new user and wish to do so, please DM the site owner.

    3. If a user account is set up purely to direct traffic away from EOSHD or to advertise, it will be banned

    4. Please be polite to other users and myself.

    5. Please over time post your own work, opinions, video and tests, because a forum should not just be a link farm or library of YouTube clips

    Have fun!

    Smartphone sensor size on a rampage

    In: Cameras

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    9 hours ago, kye said:

    Interesting stuff, but still a way to go.  

    The Xiaomi 12S Ultra has a crop-factor of 2.7 (calculated from sensor width) with an f1.9 fixed wide (which equates to a 23mm f5 lens) and an f4.1 zoom (which equates to an f11 5x zoom lens) and a f2.2 ultra-wide (which equates to a 13mm f6 lens).

    This means that even wide open its got deeper depth of field than decent lenses on a S16 camera:
    https://www.vintagelensesforvideo.com/category/super16/

    9mm F1.9 prime on Super 16mm is considered a decent lens. That's what the 12 Ultra has.

    The telephoto has a deep DOF, which is quite useful actually as you can get a lot in focus whereas 135mm on full frame, it is more challenging to not just see the subject and nothing else. At closer focus distances you have a very shallow DOF regardless on both of these lenses.

    You can also buy a DOF adapter and use DSLR lenses on it.

     

    Canon EOS R5C

    In: Cameras

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    On 5/18/2022 at 11:49 PM, PannySVHS said:

    German testsite Slashcam. Very amazed, by the fact that the GH6 performed equally well as the R5C regarding dynamic range.

    Here is a translation from their 5RC review, regarding the GH6 surprised them.:

    "What's really amazing, however, is how well the winner from our last MFT dynamic showdown does: The Panasonic GH6 with Dynamic Boost can "only" come up with 6K, but otherwise delivers a thoroughly equal dynamic range. We will try to present you with more dynamic range comparisons in the next few weeks, which will hopefully result in a more differentiated picture of the current camera market."

     

     

     

    Canon LOG showing an advantage here for me. Less noisy than Canon RAW and the GH6. Falls apart much later than N-LOG.

    They should have tested V-LOG on the S1 though as that is the budget full frame king for dynamic range.

    New Firmware for R5/R6/R3

    In: Cameras

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    10 minutes ago, douglaurent said:

    The photo mode was great.  All the video functions were great as well, except the time limit.  It didn't bother me because a) there was the hack and b) I did use multiple cameras anyway.  For 2-3 hours straight recording I would have used other cameras anyway.  Canon did overfulfil by adding 8K and other stuff that didn't exist in that price range, so I wasn't disappointed. As far as I can remember Canon did announce the limitations right away.  Still using the R5 too long can't be recommended because it's really getting too hot.  If they had added a fan, of course it wouldn't have been the same price point and also not what many other users wanted.  Of course I welcome that the workaround just in case longer times are not needed is not necessary anymore. 

    It was all a fake limit!!

    New Firmware for R5/R6/R3

    In: Cameras

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    10 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

    I get it, yeah electronics get hot. But I mean if it’s burning hot to the touch that sure sounds like uncomfortably hot temps to me!

    Eh? Where did I say it was "burning hot"?

    There are two separate discussions going on here. What type of overheating do you still think is the problem? Do you really think to avoid skin burns the camera needs 1 hour cooling off timer set in firmware plus arbitrary timers for 2 years upon release, then quietly removed with no explanation?

    First discussion is about what the camera hardware is capable of. The hardware we pay for should be fully usable. Are the operating temps of the CPU and image sensor ok under sustained load. As you see from your GPU or CPU these peak temps are reached within minutes, then stabilise. Is the same with the EOS R5. The temps stabilise and the alloy housing acts as a passive cooler to dissipate the heat to the air.

    Second discussion is the external temp in contact with skin and how hot is too hot or against consumer regulations and whether it can cause skin burns. If Canon is trying to avoid this, then why remove the limitation now? Did the rules change? I don't think so somehow.

    Then there is the related discussion of Canon segmenting the market and whether they wanted EOS R5 to be used in place of R5C and C70 for pro video production. All three of these were planned at same time with staggered release schedule. What capabilities are fully reliable on which models is a question of firmware not just hardware.

    So to answer discussion 1 - We proved way back in 2020 that the EOS R5 hardware was capable of running for long periods even in 8K with the EXIF temps never going above 65c and the battery pull + screw in the battery door trick was possible to reset the 'overheating' timer counting down in firmware.

    It was capable of restarting a recording immediately - but remember the old firmware had a lengthy 45 minute to an hour long 'cooling off period' which was clearly bullshit because it didn't even take into account actual temperature sensors in the camera. For example the camera being in a fridge recording 8K where it would cool to room temp within a couple of minutes after stopping. It still had that arbitrary timer blocking you from the features and not allowing the use of the hardware you paid for to the full potential.

    I was contacted by a class action lawyer in the US during these discoveries, and the whole thing was talk of the town. Canon were really on the back foot PR wise. All their own fault. They had created the perception of an unreliable but expensive flagship camera, and that their new hardware was overheating.

    So rather than recall it and change the firmware, or even just apologise to their users who had spent the money on a defective cripple hammered camera, they enlisted their client journalists to say nice things about it and brought out a faux-fix firmware update that did barely anything.

    So that was the situation for EOS R5 owners for 2 years until this complete U-turn last week.

    10 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

    With that being said as long as there is no long term damage, I would prefer the unlimited times. As I’m sure you do. 

    I don't. I have no use whatsoever for "unlimited" recording times.

    I just want normal predictable behaviour from a camera especially for £4000.

    30 min limit is fine by me, I am not an event shooter.

    Remember how severe the problems were with the original EOS R5 firmware - you could be in the menus or just shooting a few stills and an hour later the camera would be locking you out of the high quality 4K mode and 8K.

    So by my standards I only have to be able to use the camera normally without being blocked by fake timers.

    I kept saying all along after the magic screw trick, it was a firmware restriction, not real overheating. Nobody would listen. Even Magic Lantern were saying it. Nobody listened to them either.

    Now the lifting of the firmware timers proves it.

    But still people's minds don't change.

    All I can say is I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

    New Firmware for R5/R6/R3

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    2 hours ago, douglaurent said:

    I never understood why a small 4000 Euro camera should be expected to deliver the highest image quality at unlimited recording times.

    Who said anything about unlimited recording times? It was never an expectation of anyone about rolling unlimited number of hours in 8K.

    For those with short memories - We were sold a camera 2 years ago which was borderline unusable, shutting down from sitting idle in the menus, because of a badly implemented fake cripple hammer timer. There should have been a class action lawsuit brought.

    Canon soon realised they had a PR disaster on their hands so rolled out a firmware update and got all their client journalists to hype it up. That update did very little to improve recording times. We had been mis-sold and mislead into buying a camera that was advertised to do professional 8K and 4K video at highest quality when it couldn't even get through 20 minutes of sitting idle on set or an hour of light stills use before blocking you out of major headline features you paid for. Then to make it worse they refused to apologise, and left it out there software-crippled for 2 years before fixing it.

    But yeah you cannot expect anything more for your $4000... whatever Doug.

    New Firmware for R5/R6/R3

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    8 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

    Well saying as the camera feels hot all over, the overheating must be true. Andrew, if it were false then surely the camera would not feel scorching hot after 30 min. 

    I am not sure what you know about electronics but warm to the touch is not classed as overheating.

    Have you ever looked at your PC CPU temps?

    New Firmware for R5/R6/R3

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    Well since it is 35 degrees C in Berlin today I decided to do a quick test. Put it in 4K HQ mode (8K sensor readout) and record until card fills up. I'll let you know what happens.

    (Don't expect any melting! The magic screw trick showed it could go for hours virtually non-stop shot after shot in 8K!)

    Of course the client reviewers will all now be out praising Canon for fixing the non-existent problem they tried to cover up.

    New Firmware for R5/R6/R3

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    1 hour ago, ntblowz said:

    I did shoot yesterday all day on 4k50p and some 100p, no overheating symbol once! Soo over the moon with this update! 

    Man if they do that in the first place 2 years ago it will be way different market now.

    It all goes to prove our original point that it was a purposeful software limitation, and that you were not allowed to use the full capabilities of the hardware you just paid £4000 for. It should have been a class action lawsuit and maybe Canon knows it, which is why this u-turn has happened.

    At least we don't have to do the card trick now.

    I currently have an EOS R5 because I'm a hypocrite. So I'll see if it can go the full 2 hours of 8K without the card pull, and report back.

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