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Andrew Reid

Posted 04 August 2013 - 01:22 PM

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http://vimeo.com/71649487

Test footage by Florian

The Canon 7D is shaping up nicely for raw video, with image quality that makes a pretty grave for H.264.

Read the full article here

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

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When you say it's the next after the 5d mkiii and above the 50D, where does the 5d mkii fit?



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 02:48 PM

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Ahh, another example of something beautiful that thousands of users could have benefited from... 4 years ago...
ML deserves so much love


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 03:04 PM

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When you say it's the next after the 5d mkiii and above the 50D, where does the 5d mkii fit?

 

Pretty well close to 7D but more expensive and full frame users may as well choose the 5D Mark III.

 

Check out this chart for full overview on capabilities

 

http://www.magiclant...hp?topic=6215.0



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:01 PM

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Never thought I would use this next phrase correctly. "Power to the people!"

This is great but something still bug me. If the live view and unique features of this 7d, 5d3, 1div, 50d are that great. How much had canon downgrade the 1DX (and others?) via software? what is the real value of this devices? are they charging us for the overall capacity of the cameras or for what they are giving us? My head have been floating around this questions for a long time.



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:43 PM

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I really hope they do this for the 5D MarkII.



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:47 PM

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I really hope they do this for the 5D MarkII.

 

Erm raw video? They already have.



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 09:32 PM

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I'd love to see some ML raw footage shot indoors, low light with some human beings with some healthy skin tones for a change instead of guys testing outdoors. I can produce footage like this 7D test with my GH2 or D5200 all day in sunlight. Please, how about a real world cinema test for a change? I really believe in the whole ML raw thing but come on guys, shoot some people indoors.

 

Just went digging and found Andrew Wonder's "Skin"

 

Maybe something a little more inside the box?



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:27 PM

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I may have a chance to shoot some people indoors this week.  For today I chose to shoot outside to get an idea of the resolution, latitude and to see if there's any aliasing or moire.  As we all know the low light performance is not even comparable to the 5D Mark III due to the line skipping, the moire is terrible and almost unusable.  When shooting 1:1 the moire is fixed and looks just as good as the 5D when light properly, but the noise is pretty bad after 1000 iso.  I'll make a low light test tonight, or at least throw up a DNG.

 

The RAW video on the 7D is a little difficult to work with at this time since we're using only RAW burst, it throws all the DNG files in one single folder.  You also have to wait about a minute after each burst for the files to write to the card.

 

 

I'm looking forward to using the 7D along with the 5D mark III in the future once they have the RAW video a little more refined.  Currently I'm seeing the same write speeds that were posted above, but keep in mind this is in playback mode; currently we're only seeing around 58 MB/s in record mode.  



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:34 PM

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If you grade raw, project raw and view it on a big screen alongside the same graded H.264 mush, you won't be having any doubts about what a leap it is in image quality.

 

It's not fully conveyed from watching compressed streaming video on the internet.

 

Even the Dragon test footage looks normalised on Vimeo.

 

Get a camera and shoot something :)



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:46 AM

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The Internet- the great equalizer.

 

Our own footage streamed from Vimeo and Youtube now looks better than what Netflix and Amazon are streaming down for paid content...

 

Even at reduced resolution, the 7D footage looks excellent.



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:59 AM

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If you grade raw, project raw and view it on a big screen alongside the same graded H.264 mush, you won't be having any doubts about what a leap it is in image quality.
 
It's not fully conveyed from watching compressed streaming video on the internet.
 
Even the Dragon test footage looks normalised on Vimeo.
 
Get a camera and shoot something :)


My next camera will probably be the BMPC. Global shutter will make all the difference in the world to me chasing after people in the doc world. Not having to be tied to a tripod or bad post stabilization trying to deal with jello will change everything. Very happy about a S35 sensor too - if the BMPC would just appear out of the ether someday soon ;(

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:48 AM

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wow, Video from the 7D looks really sharp. I love the look.



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 09:48 PM

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great!! what about the crop mode, it's working?

Thank you MagicLantern!!



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 11:39 PM

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It made Engadget. Well done Florian :)

 

http://www.engadget....-magic-lantern/

 

How much interest is there in 7D raw video coverage on EOSHD? It is quite an old camera now (over 4 years), still a lot of users around?


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:21 AM

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It made Engadget. Well done Florian :)

 

http://www.engadget....-magic-lantern/

 

How much interest is there in 7D raw video coverage on EOSHD? It is quite an old camera now (over 4 years), still a lot of users around?

 

I would love to see solid coverage of this. I am a working DP and have been shooting mostly with the Epic over the last couple of years, but I own a 7D and having a RAW output on a Super-35 sensor seems tremendously exciting to me. The Mark III is obviously the king of the Magic Lantern hacks, but having a sensor this size makes me excited for handheld dialogue work (pulling focus on moving actors with full frame is a nightmare).

 

That's my 2 cents. 

- Andy



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:38 AM

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7D on the way!

 

Will likely get the anti-aliasing filter for it too. Image is so sharp, it just needs that tiny bit of low pass filtering to be flawless yet still very sharp.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:55 AM

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Yes, more 7D coverage would be great.  I'm excited about it as I have been using it with the anti-aliasing filter from Mosaic and it's great.  I have a 5Dmk3 now and plan on getting your raw guide soon, but it would be awesome to have a crop raw camera to go with it.



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:48 AM

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I'd be keen to hear more. My 7D has been on the list of things to sell soon, but this might save it for a bit longer... 



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:52 PM

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long live the 7d! i'd really love to see more frame resolutions, crop mode, 60p..?

personally i don't really love the full frame look and shallow dop madness.

so predictable...






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