New L-Mount Lumix (cinema?) Camera

[ntblowz]

When I was reading the comment I double checked to see if I m in the right group, which I was.

That post really irks the Sony shill in the group cause most of the comment is about the title or wait til Sony releases.

[ND64]

37 minutes ago, ntblowz said:

That post really irks the Sony shill in the group cause most of the comment is about the title or wait til Sony releases.

Thats exactly what he wanted.

[Andrew Reid]

Look at this hyperbole.

Depressing.

This is why I quit regular camera reviews, there are far more enjoyable and creative ways to do Youtube and journalism.

Why doesn't Gerald yearn to make a film instead or shoot instead? He has no interest in it. He knows his job and his role in this industry is to sell cameras.

[Andrew Reid]

And if the price keeps increasing on the current trajectory, there will be no camera market to speak of anyway.

[eatstoomuchjam]

6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Look at this hyperbole.

Tony and Chelsea are just excited for the chance to put out some sort of content other than Tony reading various rumor sites to the camera, dumb "what's the best camera" videos, sponsored software content, and insipid camera-vs-camera comparisons.

Also, they seem to have made a huge mistake uploading that one to YouTube - they forgot to use the photo of Tony looking surprised in the thumbnail.  Seriously - they're really channeling their old stock photography days with that one.  It's on like 50% of their thumbnails.

[newfoundmass]

Feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone where Gerald releases a glowing review of it, while Lumix users are stressing out about it before using it. It's usually the opposite!

[Andrew Reid]

Everyone is approaching this in their own way I suppose.

YouTuber's want to bring the hype in their main role as client journalists, I use the term journalist very lightly, the aim to strengthen their access to future launches and to reward the paymaster. Of course they've also got an eye on the view-counts and click-revenue, it's all going down as the camera market shrinks. They need to hype stuff, to get the numbers up. The more the numbers fall, the more repetitive embargoed hyperbolic shit you will see from these channels.

Panasonic loyal users are approaching it from the angle of, well, we waited 7 years and still love our S1H/S1, etc. and the S1 II is by no means a bad camera, new sensor and lots of nice video modes, so £3000 isn't so bad and I will agree with them and the reasons they have for making the purchase.

I meanwhile am coming at it less from the specs and image quality side at the moment (I don't have the demo units and don't plan to buy it either), so coming at it more from the big picture stuff, the market strategy and industry POV especially where it concerns Panasonic's survival, and whether they are doing enough to take market share off Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fujifilm, so that their higher-ups can justify them existing for much longer. This is very important for me, as I have a long history with Panasonic's products and we can't afford to lose a brand as important as Lumix from cameras.

Plus I just want to see some fucking creativity.

I am so tired of the same old formula of camera design and the lack of a basic exposure feature such as an ND filter is a tragic joke at this point.

[mtol]

I want one if the video isn't overly sharp in the details. I will wait and see though. I expect sales will not be super high, but being already set up with L-bodies this is a compelling camera.

[John Matthews]

13 hours ago, Simon Young said:

No OLPF, tons of moiré and slower readout than the much cheaper Z6iii (with excellent n-raw). Thanks but no thanks.

The S1H with an OLPF and Netflix approval also had moiré in some cases. It's more a function of distance to the repetitive pattern and readout mode. Basically, some are better than others in certain situations, but none are perfect.

7 hours ago, ArashM said:

I'm guessing there is no point comparing pricing between brands until all of them raise to counter tariffs... (sigh)

 

I agree. It's the wild west right now, making it hard for anyone to make a purchase decision. Still, the S1ii is easily worth it in my opinion, several hundred cheaper than the A7Siii which was a video-only camera (and there's significant inflation since then). This camera will sell well.