PannySVHS Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hey guys, does anybody recognize this beauty of a camera? It is a single operator shoulder beast for feature film production. The only other second crew member was the sound guy. So anybody has produced anything like this auteur epic with a camera like this? Please no mini DV assumptions here. It is a HD camera for sure. I know that Ironfilm has done a film with plenty of cinematic energy and ninja like extravaganza with a Sony F3. But anybody with that camera like in this documentation? It´s a camera that shoots a film in three days. I would like that and use the saved money on production value for my micro budget shortfilm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think we need more info, Panny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, PannySVHS said: It is a HD camera for sure. I know that Ironfilm has done a film with plenty of cinematic energy and ninja like extravaganza with a Sony F3. Thanks, but I don't think I have ever said I shot a feature film with the Sony PMW-F3?!?! There was one I was going to shoot with it, but then I ended up shooting with the Sony PMW-F5 in 4K raw. However we only did a few days of shooting, now waiting on further funding plus other factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The one at 23:24 you mean? Seems some form of a Sony. But honestly, you can shoot anything with any camera. Get yourself a JVC GY-LS300 perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Glenn, the documentary shows the production of a feature film. They show the camera a few times, which has been used for filming the feature. @Cinegain They also show that camera at 22.55. I don´t think it is possible to shoot this kind of feature with a LS300, especially not in three days. @IronFilm You shown footage with some kind of weird characters shot against a sky, very colorful costumes, some kinda futuristic power ranger ninja style of shock epic. Sony F5 in 4raw glory even? Did you distribute it? Netflix likes cool and campy action flix. Would you mind to repost it?:) I am all for cameras which enable us to have a state of mind like Wyinorski does. @webrunner5 , I think you should be right, that´s a camera that has higher resolving HD than a GH4 and equal lowlight. Way ahead of its time and still more costly than a F3 these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 That has to be the worse video quality I have ever seen LoL. That was probably shot on a Barbie Camera! It looks like a SONY PMW-400K. I had one a few years ago. Damn great camera at the time. 3 2/3 sensors in it. Pretty much industry standard at the time. Maybe even a older one. the 400k would do HD, so not sure what they shot that video with. Might only be SD not HD. It is not that long ago that ENG could even shoot in HD. Like only maybe 7 years ago and then Only in 24fps, Maybe 30fps. They would shoot higher fps but only interlaced video in HD. Kisaha, Jonesy Jones, PannySVHS and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 By the way, to put it with the words of Andy Sidaris: "It is still necessary that we do B-movies". A nice to watch and to hear segment from around minute 59 on, about the beauty of B film filmmaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 There's a clearer view on 36:00 It's a Sony HDW-F900 (not the F900R). I wonder what makes you think you can do it with that but not the JVC. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Sorry Panny, when I looked I didn’t see the embedded video. If you want my honest opinion... I know exactly why you would want a camera like this to shoot a movie on. But I would probably go with a C100. Nice small, yet malleable file sizes. XLR inputs for in camera audio, built in ND filters. For scenes without dialogue, you can take the handle off and the camera is a lot smaller. It’s just a workhorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Cinegain said: There's a clearer view on 36:00 It's a Sony HDW-F900. I wonder what makes you think you can do it with that but not the JVC. They are not that much money anymore. That thing was like 80,000 bucks new, now... That was a beast of a camera. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-HDW-F900-CineAlta-24P-HDCAM-Camcorder-Unit-2-of-3-3012/152701678244?hash=item238dbab2a4:g:rJYAAOSwpHFZaj9H PannySVHS and mercer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 @Cinegain Wow, you´re right, legendary camera. I knew, I was up to something. Still more expensive than a GH5:) Would like to shoot something with 3 CCD magic and a nice codec. What codec does the F900 have? Writes to P2 cards I think. @webrunner5, would be cool to shoot something worthwhile with this lengendary camera, I mean a fiction shortfilm. Have not found info about codec, bitrate, color subsampling yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 HDCAM... so... video tape cassettes. ( https://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/ext/cinealta/docs/HDCAM_Card8.pdf ) PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 P2 cards are Only a Panasonic thing. NO Sony I ever heard of uses them. I think the F900 uses tapes.. You don't even want to get involved in Tapes in this day and age. The ones that use the CD's are not bad though even today. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I do like the grungy look as well but I think that look can probably be pretty easily obtained, even with an iPhone. Probably a hacked GH1 could easily give you a similar look, with a few touches in post. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 But a Lot of TV stations still shoot on the old Sony 2/3 cameras yet unless they went to 4k, and a lot still don't use that format. They would have had to throw everything they had in the garbage, and that would cost millions and millions of dollars to convert. 6 minutes ago, mercer said: I do like the grungy look as well but I think that look can probably be pretty easily obtained, even with an iPhone. Probably a hacked GH1 could easily give you a similar look, with a few touches in post. Unfortunately he is right. Well maybe fortunately he is right!! They do have a special look, but the biggest benefit to them is being able to use a B4 ENG lens on them. That way it is very good in low light and they can get DoF out the ass. And you do NOT want stuff oof in TV, ENG work. Yeah I don't doubt a GH1 is about 5 times a better way too go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Cinegain said: HDCAM... so... video tape cassettes. ( https://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/ext/cinealta/docs/HDCAM_Card8.pdf ) great find. another one showing it has 3:1:1 sampling http://vmi.tv/training/useful-stuff/choosing-a-digital-format Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 And if you insist on going old DV, probably a Panasonic DVX would be the cheapest best choice... except for the amount of time it takes to input the footage with a FireWire. And even then get an HV20 which is still considered a cult cam. Hell if you make a movie on an HV20 today, you would probably be considered the coolest filmmaker in the hipster world. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If you want a old one try to get one that uses XDCAM HD. That is the one that uses a CD in a plastic "sleeve". A cartridge. They are somewhat cheap today. Any one that uses Solid State media is VERY expensive even today. Those type of cameras Can be additive! They are about the best designed camera bodies ever made. They come rigged to start with LoL. Only needed a Video light and maybe a wireless headphone receiver on them and away you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, mercer said: I do like the grungy look as well but I think that look can probably be pretty easily obtained, even with an iPhone. Probably a hacked GH1 could easily give you a similar look, with a few touches in post. I don´t find any HD trailer of the Witches film, which this documentary is about.:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Panny, pick up a hacked GH1 for $100 and make a feature film with it. It will be the greatest marketing story since Tangerine was shot on an iPhone... or pick up a $200 camcorder with a mic input. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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