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      By Guest 187ddc7787b20f1da7d3db97b0ea00cb
      UPDATE: FOR FOCAL LENGTH PLEASE CHOOSE FULL-FRAME (35MM) EQUIVALENT (with focal reducer calculated into equation if used)! 
      I think you should be able to delete your vote and then re-vote if you haven't.
       
      If your exact answer is not listed, please chose the closest.
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