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It is for acquiring plates though. DSLR's have been used for a while for crash cams or things like this. I remember the 5d was listed on the Avengers. Not really going to be ever seen as an A, B or even C cam on a major production. This isn't to discount the GH5 or any other camera just being realistic.

There are some good voices on youtube. Most channels are selling cameras though so of course they are not going to promote old stuff. Consumerism is definitely in full swing though and the filmmaker market is insane in this regard. There is a recent trend to do reviews of old cameras which is refreshing (maybe saying it is a trend is exaggerating it).

To add to my post, external recording is the biggest thing I would give up. Being able to record 12-bit RAW internally would be idea. I wish camera manufacturers would add uncompressed CDNG recording to their flagships. Compressed RAW is such a mess…patents and external workarounds…and then one does not necessarily have freedom of choice when it comes to what NLE to edit the RAW footage in…unless one converts. 
 
Give us uncompressed RAW to the card. Or give us Prores 4444 12-bit. The codec everyone has forgotten about 😆 

I have already given up RAW, battery life, size and resolution for dynamic range, color science, and fast readout (the Alexa Classic).

Dynamic range and color science are top priority for me and then sensor readout speed. After that battery life, then weight and then resolution.

My a7s iii has all the bells and whistles, so i cannot imagine downgrade sacrifice one bit of it ! other than external modules like heavy ass ninja V that i have to carry around with me 😮‍💨 for manny reasons such as bright monitor & 12bit raw yada yada yada and so on 😅

I'd give up resolution, viewfinder, any type of raw, photo capabilities. In my book the perfect camera would 14+ stops of real dynamic range, solid 4k up to 120fps, good IBIS, autofocus, ND filters... The only things that hits really close to all of that is the Sony FX6, but it's a bit out of what I can afford. Thinking of picking up a used FS7 one of these days as the prices come down

Yep and there is also the S1 which gives a bigger body and full size hdmi, also an awesome cheap alternative to the S5 II. If I weren’t already using my Nikon Z6+Ninka V & Star, I would probably be shooting on the S1. 

We'll definitely look back at todays cameras as inferior, but the number of pixels will be one of the last things that we'll be looking at.
Isn't it funny how when people talk about resolution they say more is better, but when they talk about images they put the Alexa at the top?

Yep, if you don't need AF then the S5II is a minor upgrade - possibly even a downgrade if you're concerned about sharpening in V-Log and other issues with standard profiles already mentioned in this thread.

When I sold most of my M43 gear to get the S5 bodies I was very briefly bummed when the S5ii was announced. But then I remembered that I basically paid slightly more to get two S5 bodies than what I'd have paid to get one S5ii. I think I paid about $2100 total for both, after selling the extra accessories I didn't need that came with them? And those two, along with my GH5, will be a powerful trio for years to come, especially when it comes to event videography.
I got the most out of my small budget and couldn't be happier. And when the time comes to upgrade, I'll do the same and be just as happy because I didn't spend thousands of dollars on a camera that immediately lost hundreds in value once I opened the box. Waiting two or three years to buy a S5ii or S5iix for %50 less than what I'd have paid for it brand new sounds like a pretty good plan to me! I'll give them a nice new home and lease on life! 🙂

“Crappy” 8-bit 420 non-log. 

Just think…these cameras, the original S5, FX30, Fuji XT3/4/5/XS20, Nikon Z6 + Ninja, current gen bodies like the FX3, ZVE1, R6 II, these give us all of the image quality we need. We literally don’t need better until sometime comes out with Alexa-level DR and color. Nowadays I view upgrading cameras as just quality of life improvements. Because my setup can achieve as good of an image as I will ever need. 10-bit, full frame 4k in LOG…is all you need. You genuinely don’t need better.

I love this approach. My mentality has really been shifting. To one of maximizing and being content with what I have. Some gear upgrades are awesome. A good lens. C-stands. Diffusion fabrics and floppies. Quality audio gear. I’m tired of looking towards the latest and greatest camera. Because the pursuit of that is endless. Where does it stop?  It doesn’t. You get a perfectly great camera, and then a “better” one comes out and you just have to upgrade. And that mentality gets pushed so hard on YouTube. Even on this forum sometimes. I’d prefer to just get to know my current camera better and become better in skill. I’ve been seeing this happen. What I get out of my Nikon Z6 8-bit flat footage is better than what I used to get out of 10 bit NLOG Prores. I’m not going to upgrade my camera for a while. 

I shot the AROLL of this video on my Nikon Z6 using the Nikon 17-35 2.8 adapter via FTZ. Such a great lens!  
(All the photos in this video were shot by someone else, not using my setup)

I’ll have to make a text video soon, but I got a working copy of the Nikon 17-35 2.8 lens. Adapted via the FTZ, AF performance is really good. Fast, snappy and stable on my Z6 when shooting 4k. 

Looks like a new camera will be announced soon. Nikonrumors claims it’s the Z8…but I’ve heard that’s pretty expensive still. Nikon need To come out with an answer for the Sony a7iv, canon r6 ii, etc.  

“Crappy” 8-bit 420 non-log. 

Just think…these cameras, the original S5, FX30, Fuji XT3/4/5/XS20, Nikon Z6 + Ninja, current gen bodies like the FX3, ZVE1, R6 II, these give us all of the image quality we need. We literally don’t need better until sometime comes out with Alexa-level DR and color. Nowadays I view upgrading cameras as just quality of life improvements. Because my setup can achieve as good of an image as I will ever need. 10-bit, full frame 4k in LOG…is all you need. You genuinely don’t need better.

Just think…these cameras, the original S5, FX30, Fuji XT3/4/5/XS20, Nikon Z6 + Ninja, current gen bodies like the FX3, ZVE1, R6 II, these give us all of the image quality we need. We literally don’t need better until sometime comes out with Alexa-level DR and color. Nowadays I view upgrading cameras as just quality of life improvements. Because my setup can achieve as good of an image as I will ever need. 10-bit, full frame 4k in LOG…is all you need. You genuinely don’t need better.

I love this approach. My mentality has really been shifting. To one of maximizing and being content with what I have. Some gear upgrades are awesome. A good lens. C-stands. Diffusion fabrics and floppies. Quality audio gear. I’m tired of looking towards the latest and greatest camera. Because the pursuit of that is endless. Where does it stop?  It doesn’t. You get a perfectly great camera, and then a “better” one comes out and you just have to upgrade. And that mentality gets pushed so hard on YouTube. Even on this forum sometimes. I’d prefer to just get to know my current camera better and become better in skill. I’ve been seeing this happen. What I get out of my Nikon Z6 8-bit flat footage is better than what I used to get out of 10 bit NLOG Prores. I’m not going to upgrade my camera for a while. 

“Crappy” 8-bit 420 non-log. 

“Crappy” 8-bit 420 non-log. 

“Crappy” 8-bit 420 non-log. 

As someone that is using two S5 bodies and a GH5 for a multicam set up...
If you don't find yourself in a situation where you're struggling with something that the S5ii would do better, then there isn't really a compelling reason to "upgrade."
My plan is to upgrade to the S5ii (or S5iix) in a couple years, when a successor to it or the S1/S1H is released and the used price goes down. I made a post a few weeks back talking about how I am done buying new and am perfectly content with being a generation behind, because all of these cameras are so good at this point that it doesn't really matter. Yeah, there are definitely quality of life upgrades but none of them are worth the cost for me. The S5 will produce an excellent image for years to come, and ultimately that's what matters to me. When the used price becomes compelling enough I'll start planning to upgrade, but I'm done investing thousands of dollars into camera bodies that won't retain their value much at all. I'll let others take that hit and just wait. 🙂

And in Davinci Resolve you can use the chromatic adaptation mode to get color-space-aware WB changes. 

In my opinion, camera companies should be giving their $2,000+ uncompressed internal RAW recording in a simple manner. The Canon 5D II can do this but the $2000 Panasonic S5 II cannot.