Video Hummus

Thanks for the write up. The footage was all really quite good. I really enjoyed Rob Ellis second video with the Ronin-S. There are other tidbits to learn in those videos. Like preferring composition and camera movement over shallow depth of field in every shot. Using the surroundings to tell a story and not just isolate everything.

GAS

What would have been smart is a really short flange distance and a BM mount with adapters for EF, PL, and RF or even Z. The adapters could be dumb, have glass, or a ND insert. The camera could fit into any set with whatever glass is being used, la la Kinefinity. BM makes more money while supporting almost any setup under the sun at an unbeatable price with a great UI and BRAW.

I think they also took the easy route and used the EF mount which I think was a huge mistake. 18 months from now will be another BM camera with 8K and a better, more sensible, mount. IMHO, this 6K camera is a resolution numbers camera released to meet a moment.

Sadly, I agree with Sony being more likely to deliver. They just have more runway and I’m sure their sensor company is pulling in lots of revenue. So many cameras from phones to the latest mirrorless use a Sony sensor. I’m really surprised Sony hasn’t improved their ergonomics by now. Multi-aspect will be hard to impossible to pull off with IBIS since it needs literal wiggle room to move the sensor in the image circle. They could do it with a fixed sensor and advanced EIS but EIS on its own has some real disadvantages. Hoping Panasonic can deliver. Meantime, I enjoy shooting with my Panny every chance I get.

I agree with Andrews post. Not the camera for everybody. When you step back and look at the whole package there are some real head scratchers. No doubt the image is solid and having BRAW is a huge advantage.

Is there a prize for guessing which one is Andrews?

I’m a MFT fan but I can only see the GH6 being successful if it really pushes the envelope for what we expect in a hybrid mirrorless of its size, like the GH5 did for its time. In my opinion it has to have: A built in ND function of some kind, wether on sensor, or in place of mechanical shutter (with a global shutter to take its place). First to offer 4K 120p in a hybrid mirrorless. At least 6K or better a 8K open gate mode. RAW or a very beefy HEVC codec of some kind with 10bit in all shooting modes. Next generation IBIS + EIS that offers benefits over the already excellent G9 and GH5. At least 14 stops dynamic range with full VLog and some kind of extended HDR shooting mode. Vastly improved AF wether PDAF or next gen DFD (the S1 is way better than I thought). I think anything less and people will ignore it because of the maligned sensor size ?

Yeah even the Verge is writing about it. Either slow news day or they are pushing these sensors hard. https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/12/20801750/samsung-108-megapixel-smartphone-camera-sensor-xiaomi-100-million-pixels-6k-video-recording

Facts have no power here...

I remember when sports entertainment was a big driver for HD and eventually Full HD (I always laugh at those names) for people in my area to buy a new TV because there was a noticeable difference in quality from SD, especially SD cable. Now no one talks about it. Which I would assume FHD at 60p is good enough or that the difference between FHD and 4K is so little (for the typical screen size and view distance) its not a talking point. Not to mention upscaling quality on the higher end TVs is so good it pretty much levels the playing field unless you have a enormous TV which for most people is 65 and up. I have a 42 inch.

Buy that tv now and wait 5+ years for 8K content maybe even 10 years if you are in the USA; since our govt persists in allowing companies to drag ass on building out fiber networks (or outright not allowing local municipalities to do it themselves) which are essential if you want general 8K programming to the mass population.

Andrew better hurry. People are getting antsy.

It’s sweet! Let me just get my credit card out and pay for this bad boy....$60,000 a bargain! Why isn’t everybody shooting on this! ? Pretty sure that there something more to that image than 8K.

I’d take a C100 Mark 3 with those striped down C200 specs.

Probably won’t be in anything under a C300 and $8K.

A shite ton because I would buy one. But you are throwing out a dream spec camera and not some incremental improvement with a smallish resolution bump.

Ah, it’s the 1.8. I jumped the gun and thought it was the famed 57mm Hexanon 1.2 AR. When I skimmed the intro text.

I’m sure many P4K owners who loved and made great works with it will bash it for only having a M4/3 sensor. Even though I can get a speed booster and mount almost any lens onto my GH5S and have a 1.1 crop factor to full frame. But the pockets have many more awesome features when it comes to recording formats. Which makes me ? as a Panny owner. Come on Panasonic!

12K or go home. Only real pros shoot 12K. Gods shoot 16K. I think we are in vastly diminishing returns beyond 6K resolution for most filmic work. Sure, are there always uses for higher resolutions, sure! But when it comes to non-scientific bodies of work where you have an actor on frame or a landscape in front of you there are many more things that will improve your film than resolution (I’m talking video work here, not photos). There are also hard physical limits to data storage as well. Laws of physics and all that. Hence why bigger resolutions don’t excite me. Give me higher DR and better ISO please. Even with ISO (S1 and A7siii) we are approaching good enough for 95% of scenes you will encounter. The rest you fabricate. Give me more compact, but still ergonomic, footprint with a decent resolutions, frame rates, codecs, and storage mediums. The camera industry is down but when you stand back it is larger than ever before. Phones have become primarily cameras—not the other way around. Do a poll. What are the top things people look for in a phone? Probably close to no. 1 will be a great camera! It’s more popular than ever. But for most people convenience trumps most everything else. There will come a time when something shot on an 12K Monstro Mega X Beast won’t be, practically, much better than something shot with a iPhone 15 or One Plus Note 20 (for most sane people; we are insane). Also, @kye, can I borrow your Konica Hexacon? I promise I’ll give it back. Honest.

I see GAS all over the place. Happens every time a new product is released. If anything it will help keep the companies afloat ? (this comment is brand agnostic). As long as BM releases better products at low prices (even if I don’t buy them) it’s a win down the road.

Everybody is trending to smaller footprints. Hmmmmm.

I think some of that is driven by the fact they shoot RAW or ProRes 4444 XQ and the data adds up on feature films.

All this resolution talk....you simply film in the highest resolution you can (time and budget allows) without it effecting greatly your editing workflow for the platform you are delivering for.