newfoundmass

I think people are being a lot more pessimistic than they need to be about this release and Lumix's future in general. As much as I am loathe to admit it, YouTubers are a big part of marketing these days and tons of them either went on the trip to Norway or were sent a camera to review, including prominent Sony, Canon, and Nikon shooters. Virtually all of them made positive videos about it. That's a move in the right direction, as far as marketing goes. The real professionals who did use the camera, including in real professional settings, were all extremely positive and compared it favorably to the competition while marveling at the price. It's a high resolution stills camera with excellent video features. A total 180 from what the original S1R was. Given what folks are saying and anecdotal evidence available, they seem to have things coming down the pipeline. They could be better at conveying that to us for sure, but there are enough hints out there. See: the new monitoring app. As someone that was very doom and gloom about Lumix for a while there and who still sometimes scratches his head about decisions they make, these are all positive steps. It's almost March. There are 9 months left in the year. Lets see what happens.

Currently watching Hugh Brownstone's video. He isn't someone I'd consider a shill at all. He seems very excited about it. He's very thoughtful. Says it compares well to the A7RV.

Vistek used it on a real shoot, using it both for photo and video. Has a lot of good things to say and actually put it through it's paces.

I consider The Hybrid Shooter to be unbiased and he is very happy with the camera. He is, though, what his name suggests: a hybrid shooter, so this is kind of a camera made for him.

It's bad for a camera, especially one that has active cooling, to overheat, yes. Is it a deal breaker? That's up to people to decide for themselves. But a camera should be able to reliably perform in every mode that is offered. I think going the S9 route, where it has a limit by default for more taxing modes, and then giving people the option but a warning to get rid of the limits, was a better way to handle it.

This is one of those instances where it feels like Lumix is damned if they do, damned if they don't. They gave their high resolution stills oriented line a huge video upgrade, holding back very little, and it's still not enough to satisfy a lot of folks. This is a very capable video camera for a camera that is meant for still/hybrid shooters. The only thing that is unacceptable to me, and it's a very big thing, is the overheating.

I've used all of those actually! I built a live streaming business with the Sony PXW-Z90 almost 8 years ago. It was the best option at the time, because of the SDI connection that we could output to our switcher. Originally I wanted to use GH5 bodies but I wasn't confident in HDMI or the HDMI to SDI process in a fast paced sports environment. Locking SDI to SDI seemed like the way to go. Plus every other mirrorless option at the time, minus Lumix, had overheating issues so they weren't an option. The Panasonic AG-DVX200 was also briefly considered, but at nearly $5000 each it just wasn't gonna happen. I really liked the PXW-Z90 at the time. Today though, it's not good enough in low light for event coverage, in my opinion. Today the footage LOOKs video-y, with poor colors, roll off, and dynamic range. They're still used by my old company, and for several other smaller pro-wrestling companies, and I just don't think the footage looks very good compared to what you can get from even a low end mirrorless camera these days. I rented a FZ2500 when I was considering it as B and C cameras to my GH5 years ago. Not bad, but the G85 bodies I was using were still better. Gimme a power zoom I can buy once and use on whatever new Lumix body I upgrade to in the future and I'll be a happy camper.

I don't think the features are what people consider innovative as much as the overall design. I don't think they'll end up selling too many of these. I would certainly never buy one, though I very much appreciate the overall aesthetic. But I don't like only having internal storage or the missing features.

Very fair.

Nikon beating Panasonic to releasing a video focused power zoom for their full frame cameras was not something I expected... C'mon Pannyboy~!

Yeah, Dave Bautista is just off steroids/HGH. He's almost 60, he doesn't need to be gigantic anymore especially if he isn't just focused on action roles. I'm sure he's still completely shredded without the excess muscle/bulk. Plus it's relatively easy to bulk up if he needs to for a role. I still think Matt has lost too much weight. He looks much older now than he did a year ago. He looks really healthy in that video talking about giving up drinking, vs. the video on the zoom lens.

The S1Rii having strong video features to me isn't a sign that there won't be a more video centric camera released, but a sign that they learned from the S1 and S1R launch. Matching what competitors have out is part of it, but there was a lot of frustration on the release of the S1 and the S1R about the video features, re: paid upgrades for the S1 and limited video features on the S1R. Not only that, but we've seen everyone else releasing high resolution cameras with advanced video features in the years since. The market kind of demands it now. It does raise the question as to how they'll differentiate a new S1H from it, but I don't think it means they'll just not release one.

That seems like the most likely reason. I suspect we'll see a S1H successor announced by the end of the year.

Thank you!

If you're shooting at 200mm handheld for long periods of time in video you should probably be using a monopod or at least a shoulder rig. I know there are situations where that isn't possible, but that's a pretty extreme scenario. That's a really high standard. We have to remember that these are still sub-$2000 cameras. From my perspective, as someone who started out in video 28 years ago, I look at a camera like the S5II X and am in awe at what this camera I paid $2000 for can do. I am in awe, really, at what any of these cameras can do because I never imagined I'd be able to own a camera with these capabilities. When I was 16 working for a local production company that had Canon XL1s I was literally giddy when I would use it! I didn't sleep the night before the first time I knew I was going to use one! Obviously we can't judge everything based on what was available/what we used when we first started, but it does make some of our complaints seem pretty silly considering how fortunate we are. The fact that a $2000 camera can even be mentioned in the same breath as an Alexa is pretty crazy.

What is the difference between foveon and regular sensors? Excuse my ignorance!

Obviously we all want cameras with as little rolling shutter as possible, but there really isn't a major camera released in at least the last 10 years that I'd say has enough RS as to make it useless. Maybe in certain circumstances, like filming trains, fast cars, airplanes/helicopters or something? Everyone has their own standards, I guess, but out of all the issues I have with my S5II X the rolling shutter performance is pretty low on my list and there's really nothing about the camera overall that make me call it "unusable."

I shoot action sports (professional wrestling) with my S5II X and rolling shutter isn't an issue at all. I notice it, yeah, cause I'm a video guy, but no one watching it has ever commented on it or complained.

I might be in the minority but I don't mind the S5 body, though I do like the S1H body the most out of all the Lumix cameras I've used. My only two complaints about it really are the screen (I'd like the S1H screen) and the lack of lock that can turn off certain buttons that I'm accidentally hitting while recording accidentally.

Very interesting it's not being released in the United States and Europe. I wonder why.

I would love this so much, though I know i'd never be able to afford it!

It looks like 8.1K is real, as at the end of this video Zach says something along the lines of "by the way, all the talking head footage in this video was filmed in 8.1K... but you'll find out more about that next week." I really don't have a need for 8K, so that really doesn't excite me. Most of us aren't even really using 4K to it's max with our small TVs and computer screens! But I know others will be pumped.

Good for him! Takes a lot to recognize you have a problem. Still, he looks a lot healthier (and younger) in that video than he does now. Sometimes people who lose weight tend to go overboard.

I was waiting for your thoughts!

100 pounds is a gross exaggeration, but I did notice he started to lose weight about a year ago. He wasn't a big guy to begin with, but looks to have lost at least 20 pounds, which I think is way too much. I too hope he's okay.