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2 hours ago, noone said:

What I found interesting in that opening post link is that someone actually used the BM pocket cinema camera for a cinema film.

Probably used for a car wreck scene LoL.

2 hours ago, BrooklynDan said:

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That said, there's a set of Lomo Roundfronts at the rental house where I work, and they look pretty sweet as well. Lots of distortion, unpredictable flares and aberrations, all the weird funky shit you get with old Soviet glass. I love 'em.

Well at 40 to 50 grand for the trio used I would hope they are pretty nice! But they are not too bad to rent, and they are one of the better lens sets to use for sure. Nice look.

What pisses me off on high end cameras is the damn money they charge for add on's, grips, storage, LCD's you name it. Hell they could give you the body and you still can't afford the other parts LoL. I know Red, Arri are small company's, but still they out date the one you buy in 6 months. Black Magic is a little better, and for a new company, i think only three years producing cameras, they are a force to be reckoned with down the road.

3 hours ago, Amook said:

I have a quick question about the nikon ED AF 80-200 2.8 push/pull lens. I'm looking for a good zoom in this range and can either get the push/pull a very cheap price or the 80-200 2.8d version at nearly three times the cost. So just wondering if anyone have any experience with the push/pull vs the D version. Is the extra money worth it? I'll be using the lens on a sony F3.  Thanks

The only real negative was that it was a vacuum pump for dust. It can be in really dusty situations. But the later one that you twist people say it takes a longer time to zoom. So Canon can't win. Also there was lens creep on the older one as they got older.

I would say the newer one is probably better, had both, but really not worth 3 times more better that is for sure. Tripod use lens creep should never be a problem. The newer one does not extend if my memory holds, where the older one does a lot. So if you are using a Matte Box that Could be a problem.

I don't see a Pana GH4 or a GH5 being taken very seriously at all in LA. My daughter lives near there, and people in California have tons more money than any other state other than say up East. BMW's are as common as a Honda Civic out there.

I would imagine a Red is nearly as common as a GH4 in the Cine community out there. At least many having a C100 or better. I know that camera does not matter that much in reality, but if you show up with a GH3 and a guy has a Red well not too sure your talent counts that much. Place is crawling with talent!

Well I am down in Florida right now living with  wife's brother for a couple months, and he is into ME TV pretty big time. I am amazed how good Gun Smoke, Perry Mason, etc look on a 720 LCD TV ??

Doesn't look like it is too good for close up! http://www.vintagelensesforvideo.com/sankor-16f-review/

Well Panasonic used to make the sensors for the older Oly, Pana camera themselves. So I am not sure this is a Sony or Pannnasonic sensor in the EM1 mkII and the GH5??

9 hours ago, hoodlum said:

It looks like Panasonic may have implemented the sensor differently and has focused more on high ISO instead of DR.

https://fstoppers.com/originals/everything-you-might-not-know-about-gh5-162773

"the native ISO is 400. It was confirmed that by going down to ISO 200 you’ll lose about a stop of dynamic range since it’s an extended ISO."

 

It looks like in the comments he was wrong. 200 is the base, 400 might be base when using V Log. I think they are the very same sensor. They could not have afforded to develop 2 of them. But we will find out soon enough.

There is a damn big void in Cameras, in the 2500 to 4000 Dollar price range, new or used ,that can do 4k. Black Magic only one that has more than anyone that has a quality output.

9 hours ago, SigurdW said:

Its 3.5MB/frame (14-bit 1920x1080), gets you around 6 minutes on a 32 gig card! Yes, they are huge!

Yikes!    Pocket Cinema Camera (1080p25)   64 GB card, recording RAW = approximately 15 minutes and I thought that was bad!! I think BMPCC Raw is 12bit??

Not sure this has been posted before. DR better, looks like low light even worse on high end. https://***URL removed***/forums/thread/4108345

I would guess Panasonic GH5 will be close to it sensor, specs wise.

Wow that is a crazy good deal. Grats.

Well I don't even own a Apple Laptop but I know that the older, by older I mean made late 2013 or later will work fine. A late 2013 Pro can be bought for less than 1,000 dollars and will work.

2 hours ago, Snowfun said:

Blackmagic Pocket? Gives you the opportunity to play with the basics at a reasonable price and still get stunningly good results.

Put the raw files into Resolve... then decide you're better off with Prores 422 in Final Cut for the reasons stated above...

I agree, a BMPCC is probably the best way to learn Video. And like you said it is as good as a $5,000.00 camera output wise.

25 minutes ago, jonpais said:

After trying the Nokton out several times, first on the GH4, and now on the G85, I've concluded a) that I prefer long focal lengths to short; and b) that it really is difficult to get crisp images at between f/2 and f/2.8, no matter how hard I try. If I were back in the States, I'd be selling this lens. As it is, I'm stuck in a third world country where Westerners have plenty of money for alcohol and drugs, and nothing for camera gear. So I guess I'll be holding onto it for a while.

Thanks!

One reason I am not fond of cameras that are bad at low light. Have to shoot wide open a lot ,and good luck with keeping things in focus. Now snap focus on a tripod well maybe, but that is a small part of a movie overall.

On 1/21/2017 at 9:12 AM, jonpais said:

@kidzrevil I've often heard people recommending the Nikkor AIS lenses and cheap Chinese adapters on MFT. They're full frame film lenses, correct?

     https://***URL removed***/articles/6287665194/understanding-old-nikon-lenses-ai-ai-s-af-and-af-s

1 minute ago, Ronnie Amighetti said:

Yes. I forgot about that. It's just a few days old isn't it?

Yes, not sure how long it will last at that price??

Get the 4k one!! Crazy cheap. http://nofilmschool.com/2017/01/cinemartin7-inch-hd-monitor-99-dollars 

Well you can buy a Panasonic G7 used for less than 400 dollars and get 4k with it. And they are good at low light also. Plenty of used GH4's out there now for less than 800 dollars also. It is for the money probably the best video camera you can ever buy.

Also Black Magic BMPCC and BMCC are really a great way to use a raw camera, and get, for the money, the best Cine look for the money also. Used Sony A6000 are cheap also.

The main thing you need to do no matter what you buy when you get it shoot, shoot, shoot ,edit ,edit, edit. By doing it over and over to see what you did right and what you did wrong best way you can really learn what to do. I would suggest using Black Magic Resolve because it is free. Really a powerful software package.

I could go on forever on cameras, but you are the one that has to make that decision. Plenty of info on the web. I like Camcorders myself, but good ones are pretty expensive. They are made to shoot video and need very little rigging to do it. Not some camera that has video added on to it.

How much data does Raw generate comped to the A7s compressed files? Is it crazy like a BMPCC can be? Only camera I have ever had that I used raw with to compare.

11 minutes ago, SigurdW said:

I actually said goodbye to my a7s yesterday to make space for the 5D3  Looking forward to explore the magic!

I think I would have gone the other way LoL. Giving up low light, 4k and a better Codec well hmm.. Now going to a C100, well yeah to that.

Well there is steady and there is "Flying" when using a Gimbal or Steadycam. I use both and they both have their uses, but I find "Flying", which I seem to do more now that i have a pair of Gimbals, a little TOO much in reality. Crazy to say but I prefer a little jerkiness in my footage these days! Not a big fan of Drone footage because of that also, but it is amazing what they can record.

Problem is these days no way you can stabilize shoulder wise, just say 5 pounds, of camera rig. it takes 15 pounds or more to do it, and not really even then for long periods. I guess  there is a reason someone invented Tripods!

Yeah I would admit  "The MSM (main stream media)"  is just about the most corrupt info supplier in this country. It leans WAY to the Democratic Party side in my view in this day and age. Not saying they are always wrong, but it should be honest about all news, not just what they want to shove down out throats.

Being totally in on Liberal bias is Not covering the news by any means. Sort of like Life TIme Movie, or Oxygen networks, the man hater Networks, where the man is Always the bad guy and the women is perfect.

Unfortunately no one Party is the answer. Power, Money corrupts both of them. I was a Video Cameraman for years for a main TV station and it was big time Republican  the whole time I worked there, so was the main newspaper. So hardly fair to all the people that resided there in the city. Ergo, No perfect solution.

22 minutes ago, Dan Wake said:

I'm sorry I didn't got it yet, so the true tiff format can keep inside all that extra informations such as white balance, exposure? tiff is better than raw for image quality? thx

Well Tiff is a larger file than Raw, but Tiff on average is only a 8bit file, and looses information, ergo quality, every time to use it compared to Raw nthat on paper never looses data, info. Tiff is a older format that was used mostly years ago. I would stick to Raw. It saves spase because a lot of info is backed into the camera about locations, compression, size, etc.

But some raw files are not looseless so not as good as one might think data wise. The A7rII was a camera that raised a stink about being compressed. Now it is not.

Tiff files are huge, so I would pass on using them. But no expert on the subject. It was a big deal when the first digital cameras came out. Now not so much, I had some of the first ones that came out. GAS even then for not so much of a old turd like I am now.