webrunner5

Well I use a  HP ZR30w. 30" IPS screen. It is a 2K monitor. I am too old to use a 4k one.   It was over 1200 bucks back in the day. First great monitor I ever had that was big money, so nothing similar to compare too.

But it was a unbelievable upgrade to what I had I can tell you that. It was a pretty good 1080p Nec monitor at the time. And I had cataract surgery a few years ago, so I might see stuff better than some people in their late 40's 50's. It is a Incredible difference after they do it. Especially colors.

No doubt raw IS the way to go, but it does come with some real downsides for the average person. The recording media to shoot it, the time to grade it, and the space to archive it.

Not a great recipe for a fast turnaround either. But nobody says it easy to create great stuff.

But if you can do it, I think ProRes HQ is the way to go. Much easier path for people on a budget.. 4.4.4 I think is overkill unless you have a big time project.

7 hours ago, tdonovic said:

Buy anything with a simplebgc board and you can play with the pids. Any of the Came gimbals you can do it with

Well I have to admit I looked it up. What the hell is he talking about, well for all of you "ignorant about new wave electronics gizmo's" as I am LoL, it means = proportional–integral–derivative controller (PID controller) Now we know, I think. 

Yeah it is hard to believe the company, that sort of invented Video in a DSLR, is so adverse to leading the pack. I guess it is the old turds on the board, from what I have heard, have held Nikon back. They better clean house or they, Nikon, are going to get their Clock Cleaned as they say.

Well there are plenty of parts available online to build one from scratch. I am sure if you are skilled enough, or a friend down in their moms basement, it surely can be done. I don't see why some wiz kid can't improve on any of them if you figure out a way to get into the brain of them.

The better Gimbals now are all 32bit, so they can be programed with a lot more logic to them now.

I have to go with a Canon C100 if you don't need 4k. But like others have said, a Black Magic camera has to be in the hunt. Most consumer cameras are a pretty big compromise in the Codec output.

Wow that had to take some damn good talent, and a damn long time to make. Pretty crazy, but breathtaking also. Envy!

You missed a hell of a lot of opportunity's to have people jumping out of bushes and scaring the crap out of us. Imagination, more of it LoL. I liked it a lot. The music was perfect!

That last frame is some scary stuff. Yikes.

Well a little, I am going to bed wisdom from a old turd. "Creating something great solo is like a piss in the snow, compared to something average shared". Yeah I just made that up. 

Ergo, go out and have fun with friends ,close associates, not just stay to your self. Even when filming. It is about laughing with each other, not trying to be serious as hell.

Life goes scary fast, too damn fast. Enjoy it. You will soon be a old turd yourself.

2 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

@webrunner5

 

Whatever works really, I understand one man band people like the A7s so much, but video productions are team work, and I am trying to change this "lone-wolf" mentality, even in my lowest budget jobss I try to employ 1-2 more persons (DP and/or after effects specialist), even if that means that I am earning silly money in the end. 

 

Good move on the move away from one person. It is not much fun, and really no way as good production wise as more people can acomplish. It just puts everyone more at ease, even the Actors. No one is great at every aspect of film making. It should be a "little fun" making stuff, or hell why do it.

I have used one several times, never owned one, but yeah I stayed away form sLog3. The owner said it just fell apart to easy, and I have seen plenty of examples, so I see your concern. "A bridge too far" as they say.

21 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

So, the conclusion is that every camera NOT named A7s should be destroyed immediately?

"Yeah 8 bit, but we have been shooting 8b stuff for 20 years or more and it somehow has worked." We are shooting without a A7s cameras for more than 100years and somehow has worked..

I have used the A7s on a few projects, never thought to buy one, maybe the A7Siii will be amazing, and the high ISO is a plus, but right now I enjoy more to work with other cameras.

Yeah but you are wierd lol. Just Kidding. Oh I am sure the new A7s will be amazing! The old one is also, you just didn't realize it. I know the feeling, I just can't get into certin cameras either.

I never owned a GH4 and really not too big on even the new GH5.  But I do have a Panny G7 for the 4k. The sensor size is just too limiting both DR and low light wise, and limited DoF when you want it. And it is not going to get better.  But I don't think the GH5 can be beat for the money, no way. Well maybe a Sony 6800 might??

36 minutes ago, Simon Shasha said:

I really hope Blackmagic releases a BMPCC 2.0 - perhaps with the 2.5K sensor and 60FPS - that would be beautiful.

Jesus they would sell more than they could make! Oh I would not put it past BM to do it though.

I am going on 70 years old so everything when I was young, and not so young, was all film based. I started with a 8mm movie film camera as a teenager making car chase movies, gangster style with a old 39 4 door Ford. We laughed till we nearly peed our paints doing that stuff. Nothing beats the look of film, nothing.

But you are right for what money the average person can afford the BMPCC, BMCC is as good as it gets to the look we all crave. It is a great editing learning tool also.

6 hours ago, mercer said:

 And as long as you don't have a lot of blue sky in your shots, I haven't noticed any artifacts.

Wow that is a pretty big negative you kind of have to avoid LoL. Yikes.

Christ, I just put my long sleeve shirt on. That was a great video.  But you had to freeze yuor butt off doing it. Not counting wiping the lens off a few.

You can't shoot everything wide open at f1.8 or less and expect to get much in focus. That is where the Sony A7s shines. He can shoot at f5.6 and get stuff in focus without worrying if he blew the whole thing focus wise. That is a hell of a great luxury to have as an option. MFT in a bar at night is not my idea of hog heaven, especially using a f1.2 lens. IBIS only helps you with motion blur, not lens focus. But true like you said you can shoot  lower ISO. But it's not like Sony doesn't have stabilized lenses.

What would really be nice if we had the money to have 4 or 5 camera systems. Nobody has the perfect camera, or if that was the case we would not need to be on here! I would not really like to use the A7s all the time in reality. The sucky battery life, limited recording time what like 12 minutes, no internal 4k, kind of on the small size, no IBIS on the first one, etc.

2 hours ago, Simon Shasha said:

In the end, the colour science and 8bit codec killed the A7S for me. I much prefer my Blackmagic Pocket and Micro.

A clean image at crazy high ISO isn't really something I look for, I'm more interested in colour-science and bit-depth - this is why I sold my A7S and A7RII, and still have my Blackmagic Pocket.

Well I, and probably everyone on here is not going to knock the output of a BMPCC, the buy of a lifetime in my book. But it has its limits. The Sony A7s is a FF camera that goes over 100,000 ISO I just don't think you can compare the two .

Hell not counting the A7s can do 4k with a external recorder. Yeah 8 bit, but we have been shooting 8b stuff for 20 years or more and it somehow has worked.

These are a bargin for what they cost. But you have to have the BMPCC rigged a bit to use it. It is too light with just the body and a small lens on the Glidecam.

https://www.amazon.com/Glidecam-XR-4000-hand-held-stabilizer-weighing/dp/B00746KZQ2/ref=sr_1_20?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1487432205&sr=1-20&keywords=glidecam

I have no clue in hell why people don't take advantage of newer cameras that can take still shots, video at high ISO's. People have been pissing and moaning about low light ability, and along comes a camera like the Sony A7s and they say well I am going to stay at a ISO a 10 year old camera they had did. What the hell!

It means you can have cheap LCD lights, hell use the light from your cell phone for that matter instead of 5,000 watt lights movie productions use. Use available light coming trough a window, a candle, the Moon, you get the point. A Sony A7s is a miracle and people don't take advantage of it, hmmm.

1 hour ago, hijodeibn said:

@mercer I am also very tempted with the Sigma 18-35mm, how is the noise of the AF?, is it similar to the STM Canon line?

Here is a You Tube video test.

I know it is slow, but damn talk about a one lens sort of does it all! Olympus 12-100mm f/4 IS

9 hours ago, scotchtape said:

You guys are so restrained and polite I am impressed. 

Damn it you put the Voodoo Hex on this thread LoL.  And to think I wasted a Like also. Hell you only get 10 a day.

Which of the above lenses auto focus the best. I always thought the Panasonic 20 f1.7 was pretty bad, but I do like the size and look OOC of it?

Wow do they not see that pulsing? Jesus I had to stop watching it.