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GH5: IBIS/EVF/AF/UI/weatherproofing/stills/etc

Wow, just wow.
I feel so sorry for you for feeling the urge to state sth like that.

Don’t get me worried! I preordered a Hydrogen...
But, I agree, the worship on those fora is fascinating - I could be wrong but I’ve always assumed that hardcore professional RED users don’t bother with reduser as they'll have direct access to those who count. It’s the aspirational types desperate to impress who lead the kneeling rituals. I still think that a photo of using the Hydrogen running the BM app to control the Pocket 4K will go down a storm on That site...

Don’t get me worried! I preordered a Hydrogen...
But, I agree, the worship on those fora is fascinating - I could be wrong but I’ve always assumed that hardcore professional RED users don’t bother with reduser as they'll have direct access to those who count. It’s the aspirational types desperate to impress who lead the kneeling rituals. I still think that a photo of using the Hydrogen running the BM app to control the Pocket 4K will go down a storm on That site...

Yes, notice as video. What matters most is the effective color resolution, and in that the BMPCC2 will be better. Introducing more spatial resolution without also increasing color resolution results in the video look. Something looks off, and it is discontinuity in color gradient  as it does not change at the same frequency as does the spatial information 
 
 

It truly fascinates me to be honest.
Good luck to them though.
Oh to have that serenity to accept disappointments.
Everything I ever bought from RED was arrived late and undercooked. Like the worst chicken restaurant in town.
 

I think the extreme hatred/skepticism/negativity towards RED in the early days caused them to close ranks, and those effects still linger in their culture to today. 

Does it matter if the Pocket 4K is better (or, indeed, worse) than any other camera on the market? If it does what you want it to do then isn’t that sufficient? I ordered one because I like the BM image - I don’t care if it’s better than a Panasonic, or Sony, or RED, or a barbie cam. Nor does it matter to me if a C200, A7S3, RED Hydrogen etc etc are “better”. Mine might be bigger (sorry, better) but that’s irrelevant? Other cameras are inevitably better at some things and not so good at others.
But if we are playing that game, then I think for the majority of consumers then no, the GH5 is the ”better” buy if only for stabilisation and auto-focus. Convenience is a massive advantage for a lot of people. 
In my opinion, the Pocket 4K is better IFF the priority is the image.
But I can’t wait to see if 25k ISO is even remotely useable...

£49 paid for preorder. Yippee!
Wonder where I am in the queue...
 

£49 paid for preorder. Yippee!
Wonder where I am in the queue...
 

Why don’t we try to do a “festival” here on eoshd? Someone suggest a theme and give everyone a week or whatever. We link our offerings, sit back and enjoy... we’d have to agree to do the beer/weed thing remotely.
Big question - how many would participate?
Liam - organise it!!!

@kayleeDid you manage to shoot the “drone” scene you asked about a while ago?  If so, how did it go?

Why don’t we try to do a “festival” here on eoshd? Someone suggest a theme and give everyone a week or whatever. We link our offerings, sit back and enjoy... we’d have to agree to do the beer/weed thing remotely.
Big question - how many would participate?
Liam - organise it!!!

Cloakroommedia have a good demonstration of the C200 at high ISO in low light. There’s also some useful stuff on Matthew Allard’s MZed “course”. 

Indeed.
 

I like the use of the word “persuade” in that sentence...

Genius.
(But hopefully not the display used by the Hydrogen!)

At least you have a piece of art you can enjoy for your 1400!
It’s interesting isn’t it - we discuss image quality from capture devices and how “we” can manipulate it to “our” preferences. It sort of forgets that once it’s in the living room of the consumer who knows what travesties are being applied.
 

A great application for the Hydrogen would be someone to make documentary about how many no doubt otherwise sane grown adults suddenly lose their shit like the front row of a Beatles concert when they log on to that board.
In 3D obviously.
Or 30D if Jim announces they're working on it.

As someone who preordered a Hydrogen and is genuinely quite excited about what it might be able to do, I registered with reduser for a source of information. It is quite astonishing just how poor the quality of discussion over there is (at least compared to here). The only information - other than that from RED itself - consists of wild speculation, absurd hyperbole and seems to be totally dominated by one or two individuals...  Not a great public face for a great company producing great products.
There is no doubt (in my opinion) that Hydrogen will be something special. But only relative to what phones currently offer. And not necessarily “useful” or “game changing” or even, given time, “unique”. But goodness, anyone naively reading the Hydrogen threads in The Other Place must be totally baffled (one of the latest themes is that you really need 4 - or is it 64?  - Hydrogens to really optimise the 3D capabilities - or is that just to feed the world...)
Looking forward to seeing what it’ll do however! 
 

The next month or so should reveal more information apparently.
The problem I have is that the go to source for info about it should be the reduser site but I can't last more than a few more minutes on there because of the sycophancy.
I went over there earlier to see what it was all about regarding RED selling the cameras through the Apple store and pretty much did this.
 

I always have a hard time saying a stills camera sucks just because its not the best video camera in the world. If video is that important I use a video dedicated camera.
But with that said. Nice review.

There’s nothing to defend or ridicule. Canon released a camera that does A or B... if A or B doesn’t fit your needs, then buy a different camera. It’s really quite simple.

...and if you really want/need 10 bit prores then an external recorder is the answer (at least in 1080). 

...and if you really want/need 10 bit prores then an external recorder is the answer (at least in 1080).