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29 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

 the GX800 doesn't have manual control in 4K mode.

 

There is always '4k photo' mode on the GX800, which allows PASM modes - 30p only though, and I think all 4k is limited to 5 minutes max per clip.

Nikon has officially announced the development of the Z9 - https://www.dpreview.com/news/7215673224/nikon-announces-development-of-flagship-mirrorless-z-9

From the dpreview news item:

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Scheduled for release some time this year, the Z9 will use a 'newly developed' stacked CMOS sensor and processing engine.

28 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

 

...where he says it's HEVC (H.265), 4:2:0, 10-bit at 200 Mbps, which is the same as on the G9 (and I assume the GH5). 

So 10-bit 18 Mpixel stills... 🙂

If it's like the '6K photo' mode on my G9, the files are H.265, 10-bit, 4:2:0 at 200 Mbps (info below - from the VideoRedo editor - for 3:2, 30 fps capture), with AAC audio. It uses 'long-GOP' encoding, but the GOP is quite short, only 16 frames, with only has IDR and P frames (no B frames) according to VideoRedo.

If you want to upload a short clip from the S5 (a few seconds is enough) I'll check the parameters for you.

1 hour ago, sandro said:

Thanks, 

has anyone tried any electronic EF o Nikon adapter to see how they work with autofocus? To see if this method can replace the expensive native L mount lenses...

From a earlier post in this thread (for video AF-C):

On 2/1/2021 at 9:54 AM, omega1978 said:

With Sima MC-21 and adapted Canon lenses there is no AF-C on the S-series

If you can live with M43, then add the Panasonic G9 to the list - 10 bit video support and excellent IBIS, with 1080p and 4k video quality comparable to the GH5 (albeit without All-I codecs and limited to 30 minutes - 10 min for 4k60 - record time). It's a bargain for what you get...around £700 used, £900 new in the UK at the moment.

49 minutes ago, aaa123jc said:

The Panasonic cameras have very bad AF though. May not be suitable for total beginners. 

I think a lot depends on your 'use case' - personally I don't need to focus-track people/faces or use shallow depth of field very often, and I find the G9 video C-AF to be perfectly usable for the sort of outdoors run-and-gun handheld filming that I do (as an amateur). It helps that I almost always shoot at 50p/60p which definitely makes DFD work better.

39 minutes ago, Jermaine said:

are there any modes that allow unlimited recording?

No  - that's one of the main differences between the G9 and the GH5.

There is a hack to temporarily remove the limit in this YouTube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qzBWdaY634 - but I've not tried it as I've never found the 30 minute video limit a problem (or the 10 minute 4k60p limit). I usually film hand-held, and 10 minutes is a long time to hold a camera still anyway 🙂

13 hours ago, Mr. Freeze said:

Maybe a Panasonic G9 with a Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 from the used market

That would be my suggestion too - better build and video quality than the G85, although if the budget is really tight the G85 is perfectly good camera (I own both of them, so can directly compare).

9 hours ago, thehebrewhammer said:

I think they'll be doing documentary work in the far north. Likely pretty rough on gear.

....Then the G9 is probably a better choice than the G85 due to better weather sealing & build quality.

As a slightly 'off the wall' suggestion for harsh conditions, what about a used Olympus E-M1 mk 2 with one of the Oly 'pro' lenses e.g. the 12-40mm F2.8. Smaller and lighter than the G9, with excellent IBIS and 4k video capability (including 237Mbps DCI 4k at 24 fps), and phase-detect autofocus.

The G9 has overall better video quality though (especially at 1080p).

....also if you need longer continuous recording (up to 30min) the 1080/60p is excellent quality - much better than the lower-end G-series cameras.

I've used my G9 in the southern California desert sun, recording 4k/50p with no overheating issues or warnings at all.

11 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

I am using the sigma mc-21 EF adapter, and a canon EF 50mm 1.2 @2.8 the dial is set to movie, the AF switch is set to C. (I tried the AF settings from tracking, 251 points, human detection) and I see the outlines of the objects I want to continous autofocus to, but the camera doesnt try to focus on these point, only when I press the shutterbutton(or halfway). 

How can I make it follow my face the entire time?

 

Thanks

Also note what omega1978 said upthread:

On 2/1/2021 at 9:54 AM, omega1978 said:

With Sima MC-21 and adapted Canon lenses there is no AF-C on the S-series

11 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

I am using the sigma mc-21 EF adapter, and a canon EF 50mm 1.2 @2.8 the dial is set to movie, the AF switch is set to C. (I tried the AF settings from tracking, 251 points, human detection) and I see the outlines of the objects I want to continous autofocus to, but the camera doesnt try to focus on these point, only when I press the shutterbutton(or halfway). 

How can I make it follow my face the entire time?

 

Thanks

Have you got 'Continuous AF' enabled for video (this is separate from the stills AF setting) ? - see the 'Using AF (Video)' section in the S5 User Guide - it's on page 256 in the pdf I have.

Panasonic have released a minor firmware (bug fix) update for the S-series cameras - https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/index4.html

Description of changes:

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There were cases the position touched by Touch AF was out of focus. This bug has been fixed.

On 11/20/2020 at 7:13 AM, IronFilm said:

Getting something like a Panasonic GF5 (or similar kind of camera body that is just fifty bucks on eBay) for your kid? And the S5 for you!

 

...or a Panasonic G5 for very little more money (if we're going 'bargain basement' cameras). It has better on-board audio, better controls, a viewfinder, a tilt-swivel LCD, better battery life and is nicer to hold. I've owned both in the past. The only advantage the GF5 has over the G5 is the smaller size and the 130g lighter weight.

I own a G6, G80 (a Euro spec G85) and G9. Never used a G7 or GH5.

Re. the G85 - it's a very good hybrid camera, but compared to the GH5 (and the G9) it uses the older 16MP sensor, has cropped 4k and noticeably inferior 1080p. It's a smaller, lighter and cheaper camera though, and I think it might make an excellent 'serious' but maybe less intimidating camera for your son.

Also Panasonic have changed their colour science - for the better - over time, so it's probably going to be harder to match something older like a G7 to the S1.

If you can live with the 30 minute (10 mins for 4k 60p) record limit, a G9 is cheaper than a GH5 and has better IBIS and autofocus, plus 10-bit video capability. The V-log L update can also be added to it.

There is an in-depth analysis of the M1 on Anandtech here - https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/apple-silicon-m1-a14-deep-dive

It confirms what the Apple presentation suggests (if you look very carefully at the diagrams/images) - the DRAM is not part of the M1 SoC itself, it's alongside it, with the M1 and DRAM placed very close together inside a single multi-chip package.

Given the chips they've been designing for years (for iPhones & iPads), I assume that Apple have an (expensive) ARM 'architecture license' so they can design their own CPU cores that conform to ARM's architecture and instruction set standards. Some of the other big ARM-based chip suppliers do the same - it means they can design and produce chips that lower-level ARM licensees don't have access to, thus potentially gaining a competitive advantage.

Marla - is the problem that it doesn't re-focus at all, or that it doesn't focus on what you want it to?

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if they are  bringing the subject closer to the camera above. No blur, no focus in and out. 

How close to the lens is the subject, when you bring it closer?

S-series firmware update details (mostly about new stuff for the S1 series, but a few things for the S5) - https://www.panasonic.com/uk/corporate/news/articles/panasonic-announces-host-of-firmware-updates-for-its-lumix-s-and-g-series-cameras.html

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Available to download on 24th November 2020, the latest firmware updates will be available for S1H, S1R, S1, S5 as well as G100.

Additionally, a further firmware update (v2.0) will be available for LUMIX S1 in 2021 to enhance its functions and performance.

Firmware Update Improvements for LUMIX S Series

S1, S1R and S1H will inherit the improved autofocus technology and performance of the new LUMIX S5. In addition to the eye, face and body now the head is separately recognised by real-time detection technology. The camera keeps tracking the person even if they move quickly, turn their head or back to the camera, tilt their head or move far away. Additionally, improvements to the DFD technology have enhanced the continuous autofocus (AFC), which enables users to keep tracking small or fast-moving subjects. The AF-advancements are available for both photo shooting and video recording.

In addition, the firmware updates also include1 :

Human/Animal recognition is available in [1-Area] and [1-Area+] AF mode

[AF+MF] mode can be used during video recording

AF-Recognition during V-Log-recording has been improved (S1H/S1/S5)

[SS/Gain Operation] function has been added to S1R, S1 and S5

2.4GHz Wi-Fi connectivity and Bluetooth 4.2 (BLE)

A recording indication frame [Red REC Frame Indicator] has been added to S1R and S1

Vertical video playback has been added to S1H, S1R and S1

4K video files can now be transferred to a smartphone via Wi-Fi (S1H/S1R/S1)

The monitors of S1H and S5 now can display the images flipped when the free-angle LCDs are rotated and [Horizontal Image Flip(Monitor)] / [Vertical Image Flip(Monitor)] are activated.
[AF+MF] mode can be used during video recording

5K video recording has been added to S1R2

10-bit HDR video recording has been added to S1R [Like 2100/HLG]

High-Resolution audio recording and dedicated menu settings for the DMW-XLR1 microphone adaptor have been added to S1R3

The [Luminance Level] function in S1R now supports 10-bit recording

4K 60P/50P 4:2:2 10-bit video output over HDMI has been added to S1R.

C4K (4096x2160) video has been added to S54

[5.9K] / [4K] / [Anamorphic (4:3) 3.5K] 12-bit RAW Video Data output over HDMI has been added to S5. Also Apple ProRes RAW can be recorded on Atomos NINJA V (S5)5

Vector Scope display has been added to S5

Master Pedestal Level has been added to S5

[L.ClassicNeo] and [L.Monochrome S] Photo Styles have been added to S5

Further Updates for LUMIX S1 in the First Half of 2021

To meet the demands of users, the LUMIX S1 will continue to evolve. With firmware 2.0, the user will be able to manually switch the Dual Native ISO settings. As well as V-Log recording, further enhancements will be available with the purchase of DMW-SFU26 , including an anamorphic mode and timecode function, in addition to 5.9K/C4K and 4K60/50p 4:2:0 10bit internal video recording and 5.9K/4K/Anamorphic (4:3) 3.5K 12-bit RAW video data recording over HDMI on an Atomos Ninja V.7

Firmware Update Improvements for LUMIX G Series

LUMIX G100 now has compatibility to the LUMIX Webcam Software (Beta) with firmware version 1.1. In addition, the G100 monitor can now display the images flipped when the free-angle LCD is rotated and [Horizontal Image Flip(Monitor)] / [Vertical Image Flip(Monitor)] is activated. 

1 If no model is indicated, the improvement applies to S1H, S1R, S1 and S5.
2 MOV-container, 4992x3744 Pixel, 30p/25p/24p, 4.2:0 10-bit, LongGOP, 200 Mbps, LPCM audio
3 MOV only
4 60p/50p, 4:2:0, 8-bit, LongGOP, 150Mbps; 30p/25p/24p, 4:2:2, 10-bit, LongGOP, 150Mbps; 30p/25p/24p, 4:2:0, 8-bit, LongGOP, 100Mbps. All LPCM audio.
5 All functions may not be available depending on the situation. Software that supports Apple ProRes RAW is required to edit RAW video recorded with NINJA V. Apply the LUT(Look up table ) available on the following customer supports site to make the same color grading as V-Log/V-Gamut. https://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/download/lut/s1h_raw_lut/
6 A Software Upgrade Key DMW-SFU2 (sold separately) is required to activate V-Log/MOV-function. Users who already have DMW-SFU2 installed do not need to purchase DMW-SFU2 again.
7 5.9K(5888x3312) 29.97p/25p, 4K(4128x2176) 59.94p/50p, Anamorphic 3.5K(3536x2656)/50p

The Pana 85mm F1.8 is now pre-order on Wex in the UK at £599 - https://www.wexphotovideo.com/panasonic-lumix-s-85mm-f1-8-lens-1756987/

Pana have also announced the details of the next S-series firmware updates.

I suspect it's also to do with the relationship between the manufacturer and the retailer as well - how much stock the retailer is willing to commit to, how quickly they pay their bills etc.

I just had a quick look at S5 availability from a few major UK retailers - most of them are saying 'in stock' (e.g. Wex is offering next-day delivery), so if I'd had an order with Jessops since September I think I'd be asking them some hard questions by now...

From the Nikon US website for the Z-6ii:

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This is what a hybrid still and video mirrorless camera is meant to be. 24.5MP BSI sensor and high-speed shooting with the buffer capacity to match. 4K Ultra HD video at 60p*. Outstanding low-light capabilities. Next-generation autofocus. The power of dual processors. Two card slots. Tons of creative features. Flexible power options. Compatibility with a vertical battery grip. Wireless connectivity with smartphones and laptops and so much more.

*8-Bit and DX-crop mode only

...and for the Z-7ii:

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It’s here. Bring the Z 7II’s superb image quality to your video work. For maximum definition and flexibility, record 4K Ultra HD at 60p*, 30p, 25p or 24p. Or create silky smooth slow motion sequences with 120p Full HD.

*8-bit and FX format (93% of sensor UHD coverage) only.

6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

It's one of the laziest half hearted re-releases I've ever witnessed.

Sony going to be outselling them 10 to 1 at this rate.

My thoughts too...

It looks like the 'Expeed 6' processors can't handle 10-bit video compression, otherwise surely they would have 10-bit internal recording by now?

What have they been doing, processor development wise, for the last two years?

5 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

It's likely that the bigger drives have faster transfer speeds. 

Yes, the review here - https://www.storagereview.com/review/samsung-portable-ssd-t5-review - highlights that the 512GB version has much slower sustained write speeds than the 2TB version (about 240 MByte/s versus 400 Mbyte/s). The random write speeds difference is even worse (about 100 MByte/s versus 400 Mbyte/s). They didn't test the 1TB version.

2 hours ago, Jermaine said:

love this idea, I will get the g7 as my tripod interview and one of mutlicam cameras and comeback for a g9 later.

Just be careful that the colour handling of the m43 cameras has changed (got better) over time - the G80 and G9 that I sometimes use together look a bit different to each other (and the G7 is even older than the G80).

As Lux Shots suggests, don't assume that the S5 and even the G9 will 'look' the same just because they are both Panasonic...

1 hour ago, Jermaine said:

Well I want mft or camcorder for telephoto range in a small size compared to the size of a full frame lens

That's part of the reason I use m43 cameras - the long telephoto lenses are much smaller (and the Pana 45-200 is really cheap used for the original version, but you need the current 'mark 2' version to get 'dual-IS' support). If you're shooting 1080p on the G9, enabling 'Extra Tele Conversion' gives you x2.7 zoom, which turns 200 mm into 540 mm (== 1080 mm at full-frame). You'll need it on a tripod for that though... 🙂