hyalinejim

Production process:
Shot on Panavision Cameras and anamorphic lenses Using Kodak and Fuji negative films and Kodak projection film No digital intermediary - editing was done on the negative The image quality that blew you away was the state of the art in colour science in 1989.  Here we are in 2023, 34 years later and we have 8K RAW but it still doesn't look even remotely like that.
It's a pity everyone wanted more pixels instead of better pixels.

I do that with an Old Fashioned whenever filming with an Arri Alexa.  Gotta stay posh.

Which is why I only ever use my phone these days. 
With a glass of gin in one hand, it’s not easy to rotate that VND.

It has a great feature set for the purpose but, for  me, more so as a holiday camera.
The magnetic mounting pendant is very good for staying in the moment of what you are doing on holiday whilst still filming. The pre-record function is particularly good for using it in that way as you won’t actually have to worry about missing anything.
Let’s face it, trying to do holiday videos with a “real” camera is a pain in the arse for EVERYONE  concerned and is actually a contradiction in terms as it’s no holiday when you are titting about with lenses and ND filters and offloading footage.

Let alone carrying it all and making sure it’s safe.
It always ends up with the bulk of the footage coming from the first day and tailing off to nothing after a few days as it’s too much hassle to keep up.
The AI editing is good too not just for taking out the tedium of doing editing but likely for taking out the tedium of the actual end result for whoever has to watch your holiday videos.
No full size HDMI port means it will be a hard pass for a lot of people on here of course.

New firmwares today 
"NEW Firmware 13th June 2023
The LUMIX S5II v2 firmware update will offer RAW data
output over HDMI (Requires Software Upgrade Key
DWW-SFU2). In addition to ProRes RAW, Blackmagic
RAW will now be available.
Improved image quality when shooting with V-log.

Live View Composite, which is pre-installed on the
LUMIX S5IIX, is also among the new features included
in the firmware update.

Lumix S5IIX v1.1
Improved performance
- Improved image quality when shooting with V-log.
- Improved compatibility with some SD cards.
- Improved operational stability.

See:
https://www.panasonic.
com/global/consumer/lumix/s/firmware_update.html
or
https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.
com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/index4.html
"

7 weddings in and impressed with the S5ii.
Getting used to the flip out screen but would still rather have the multi angle tilt from the S1H.
Prefer the files coming out of the S5ii over the S1H. Those from the S1H are just a little too soft for my taste in comparison, probably due to the OLPF.
However, possibly due to the OLPF, I prefer the photo files from the S1H. The exact opposite of what is supposed to be…
Moiré, only seen one single mild instance in one single clip and not a single time in a still photo.
AF has been great but not perfect. No AF is and I still prefer to use AF to acquire initial focus and then flip to manual. Unless tracking where I have to rely on it.
Conclusion to date:
For me, S1H is the ‘better’ stills camera and the S5ii is the ‘better’ video unit.
I don’t miss my S1R’s at all. I thought I might, but do not. 24mp is more than enough for my needs.
What is still ‘missing’ for my needs?
I have come to the conclusion that as much as I’d like to go to a 2 camera set up, unless I can rely heavily on pulling stills from video…and for that I’d need 6k 50/60p 422 10 bit as a minimum, the 3 camera approach works best.
On that basis, I would like 3 things in the future:
1. 3x identical bodies rather than 2 + 1
2. 6k 50/60p 422 10 bit internal (min)
3. A smaller and lighter lens to replace the Lumix 70-200mm f4, even if it topped out at 150mm. I will continue to use it until either Lumix or more likely Sigma does, but it’s the one lens I ‘need’.
All things considered, the S5ii has to be the best overall camera I have ever owned and the only thing I’d change it for at this point in time is an X model purely for the aesthetics.

Caucasian skin is about one stop above middle grey. So it "should" be even higher! The dark & moody = cinematic/filmic thing is also another recent trend.
 
With representations of film, the highlights are usually a lot softer relative to a typical contemporary digital curve with contrast added, and the shadows a lot harder. I find I get nice high contrast looks by copying the curves from a 35mm minilab film scanner. The shadows are very deep but the highlights go on for ever. This helps a lot when shooting people, as high contrast in the highlights is not nice for specular highlights on skin.

If you convert the log gamma to ACES CC gamma, which is straight, you can use a master color wheel or master offset control to make accurate changes to WB.
Another (unrelated) interesting thing to note is that photos tend to be more contrasty than video. Historically, this is probably due to its intended output mediums: print versus TV screen. Even nowadays the default ACR/Lightroom curve is way contrastier than what most video people grade to. Worth bearing in mind for sending photos extracted from videos to a client. And for making prints.

If you convert the log gamma to ACES CC gamma, which is straight, you can use a master color wheel or master offset control to make accurate changes to WB.
Another (unrelated) interesting thing to note is that photos tend to be more contrasty than video. Historically, this is probably due to its intended output mediums: print versus TV screen. Even nowadays the default ACR/Lightroom curve is way contrastier than what most video people grade to. Worth bearing in mind for sending photos extracted from videos to a client. And for making prints.

If you convert the log gamma to ACES CC gamma, which is straight, you can use a master color wheel or master offset control to make accurate changes to WB.
Another (unrelated) interesting thing to note is that photos tend to be more contrasty than video. Historically, this is probably due to its intended output mediums: print versus TV screen. Even nowadays the default ACR/Lightroom curve is way contrastier than what most video people grade to. Worth bearing in mind for sending photos extracted from videos to a client. And for making prints.

There are a few cat fights from time to time and a bit of bitch slapping, but generally there isn’t too much BS here.
Lumix BS1H aside.
They really did not think that one through…

Its more Raw Patrol than Paw Patrol here.

SAVED! Dpreview now acquired by GearPatrol. Will continue business as usual!
 
https://www.dpreview.com/site-news/8298318614/dpreview-com-looks-forward-to-a-new-chapter-with-gear-patrol 

For track and field, if you shoot laterally by either tracking eg. gimbal moving in parallel or from a fix point by panning the sense of speed will be very different depending of frame rate and shutter speed.

24fps 1/50 will look like they go much quicker than 60fps 1/120 or look even slower at 60fps 1/500. Even when taking photo only panning laterally  you would always want to have some slow shutter speed so 60fps 1/120 will yield good pictures.

Now if they run towards you and your camera is not really moving eg. tripod or handheld, it will not matter that much if is 24fps 1/50 or 60fps 1/500 in term of sense of speed. But for photo grabbing 1/250 or above would be required. 

So instead of sticking with the 180 rule I change the shutter speed based on the position and movements and again if the prio is photo or video or both.

Some examples of my video grabs:

Slow shutter 180 rule









The below one works as the camera is moving (tracking bike) at the same speed as the athlete, if the camera would be fixed it would be impossible to get a picture out

 
 
High shutter speed 1/500 and above











For me 4k would be too low as I crop quite a bit and also take vertical photos out of horizontal video. If you would do it a lot to take pictures out a 6k or above would be better in my opinion. 

It should be pointed out that it is not mandatory to have a short shutter speed for photos.
Let's review two examples.
The first is this guy, who is obviously playing at an extreme level here, with huge energy and drive:

It is an incredible photo, there's no doubt.  But does it convey the sense that he's pushing himself to the limit?  The more I look at it the more it looks like it could be a still life, maybe he was on wires and it's a setup.  In a sense, it implies motion but doesn't actually express any.
Contrast that feeling to this image:

There is no denying this.  Not only is it a great photo, and not only does it show that world-class people are pushing themselves to the limit (the three guys on the right definitely are!) but it shows the results of that effort.
Now scroll back up to the first image - what is the energy level of the first image now?
I would suggest that the obsession with short shutter speeds is part of the same obsession with getting "sharp" images, which is driving lenses to be clinical, sensors to be enormous, megapixels to be endless, computers to be behemoths, and images to be soul-less.
To be a bit practical, there are likely limits to how much blur you want in a scene, and it's relative to the amount of motion involved, which often varies quite significantly, even from moment to moment in a lot of sports.
Some more examples of varying amounts of blur..
This one is a great image, but if it was important who the defender was then it's too blurry.  If not, then maybe not..

Sometimes it's not important to get anything completely sharp..  images without feeling are of limited value, and I find that motion is full of feeling.  Here's one that is full of emotion (especially if you knew the subjects):

Also worth mentioning is that you don't always have to have the subject still and the background blurred, it can be the other way around, but it changes the subject of the image somewhat.

and with video you're taking lots and lots of photos so the creativity is endless...

Remember - don't let the technical aspects blind you to the point of capturing things in the first place.

It can certainly replace a tripod for certain shots with IS boost, but that's been true of Panasonic cameras for a while now. With some added post stabilisation you can get a perfectly locked off shot, and I have made use of this from time to time when I have some B roll that was shot handheld but would look better static.

The only major image quality improvement I can spot is a removal of a weird chromatic aberration that I'd never noticed before.
before

 
after

 

Ha ha! Nobody knows yet. Colours are the same. The red clipping problem is different, but not gone. Shadow banding remains.
Interestingly, that shot was with a Canon 70-200 f4 with Sigma Mc21. So with the new firmware maybe the camera can now do chromatic aberration correction with other lenses.
It would have been a bit easier if they just told us what they did 😂

It can certainly replace a tripod for certain shots with IS boost, but that's been true of Panasonic cameras for a while now. With some added post stabilisation you can get a perfectly locked off shot, and I have made use of this from time to time when I have some B roll that was shot handheld but would look better static.

The only major image quality improvement I can spot is a removal of a weird chromatic aberration that I'd never noticed before.
before

 
after

 

Ha ha! Nobody knows yet. Colours are the same. The red clipping problem is different, but not gone. Shadow banding remains.
Interestingly, that shot was with a Canon 70-200 f4 with Sigma Mc21. So with the new firmware maybe the camera can now do chromatic aberration correction with other lenses.
It would have been a bit easier if they just told us what they did 😂

Ha ha! Nobody knows yet. Colours are the same. The red clipping problem is different, but not gone. Shadow banding remains.
Interestingly, that shot was with a Canon 70-200 f4 with Sigma Mc21. So with the new firmware maybe the camera can now do chromatic aberration correction with other lenses.
It would have been a bit easier if they just told us what they did 😂

New firmwares today 
"NEW Firmware 13th June 2023
The LUMIX S5II v2 firmware update will offer RAW data
output over HDMI (Requires Software Upgrade Key
DWW-SFU2). In addition to ProRes RAW, Blackmagic
RAW will now be available.
Improved image quality when shooting with V-log.

Live View Composite, which is pre-installed on the
LUMIX S5IIX, is also among the new features included
in the firmware update.

Lumix S5IIX v1.1
Improved performance
- Improved image quality when shooting with V-log.
- Improved compatibility with some SD cards.
- Improved operational stability.

See:
https://www.panasonic.
com/global/consumer/lumix/s/firmware_update.html
or
https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.
com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/index4.html
"

New firmwares today 
"NEW Firmware 13th June 2023
The LUMIX S5II v2 firmware update will offer RAW data
output over HDMI (Requires Software Upgrade Key
DWW-SFU2). In addition to ProRes RAW, Blackmagic
RAW will now be available.
Improved image quality when shooting with V-log.

Live View Composite, which is pre-installed on the
LUMIX S5IIX, is also among the new features included
in the firmware update.

Lumix S5IIX v1.1
Improved performance
- Improved image quality when shooting with V-log.
- Improved compatibility with some SD cards.
- Improved operational stability.

See:
https://www.panasonic.
com/global/consumer/lumix/s/firmware_update.html
or
https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.
com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/index4.html
"