Flynn

Love your avatar funkyou. Made me chuckle.

6 hours ago, mercer said:

What the ML guys did was revolutionary and it is simply astonishing that the 5dmkii with ML Raw is still a relevant image 8 years after the camera was released.

It shows how easy it has been to dramatically improve the video specs of these cameras and that the manufacturers refuse to do so. We're talking about a camera that is almost 10 years old. I can understand the thinking of Canon, Panasonic, and Sony holding back to varying degrees. They've got expensive video cameras to protect. But Nikon, Olympus, and Fuji dropped the ball. They could have made serious inroads if they had recognized how important video was becoming.

This Photokina is looking like it's gonna be pretty boring.

2 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Newshooter had a hands on play with it:

http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/08/25/hands-on-preview-canon-5d-mkiv-has-4k-internal-recording-with-a-1-74x-crop/

With the exception of the Dual Pixel Autofocus, which everyone knows is amazing, they sound thoroughly unimpressed. And yet Dan ends up saying he's gonna get one. LOL

If you're serious about video as well as stills and want to shoot with Canon go buy a camera with a C on it to carry along with this what I'm sure will be a great camera for stills.

12 hours ago, IronFilm said:

G80 will likely be the G7 plus the good new bits from the GX80. 

Their cameras are gonna sound a bit too similar- the G80, GX85/GX80, GX8.

WTF? Andrew has done reviews for them.

What is the hold up with the organic sensor? It sounded so promising.

11 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

I have no issue with someone saying the Nikon sensor is better... it is saying the Canon is awful and outdated that is laughable. If you can't get your shot with 12 stops, you are not a good photographer that understands light.

There's probably some truth to this, though I've still heard a lot of pros complain about the Canon DR compared to Nikon. They obviously can make it work with the Canons, but they still prefer more. Lately it seems Canon sensors are becoming more competitive though.

1 minute ago, Jimmy said:

Nikon go for highest DR at a base ISO... Canon keep their DR across a much bigger range.

Nikon have been well ahead on base ISO, I agree... though the D5 is only 12 stops too and the 1DX ii a healthy 13.5

To say the 1DC is awful is what made me laugh though. 

Yes, all good points. Not gonna disagree. I mean, it's not like there has been a mass defection to Nikon from Canon pros. 

The picture is lovely. But in terms of DR, Nikon has been blowing Canon out of the water and it's not even close.

I wanna see a BMPCC mk ii, though I know if there is one in the works, it won't be at Photokina.

Damn, you've got some serious skillz.

5 hours ago, hmcindie said:

tugela has actually not used any cameras. He is a bit like Ebrahim but on the other side of the spectrum.

Why do you have to make it personal and take such a disgusting cheapshot?  You should apologize as should Jimmy for upvoting this comment. We're talking about a freaking camera. Why do you people lose your shit just because someone disagrees? IT'S A FREAKING CAMERA. Who cares. No need to start personally insulting someone.

The price is now back to the regular price. It was just a brief drop. It still might mean a D750 replacement is around the corner but maybe not. Seems way to soon to me but then again, they might be worried about the 5d IV. I wonder how much of the D5 technology a new D750 will get. Will it get the autofocus? 

15 hours ago, mercer said:

Idk, they did a mid line upgrade adding DPAF to the c100, so I could totally see the XC15 adding DPAF and as you said a few added buttons. I doubt it will be a heftier body because the body already is hefty, so unless they add weather sealing, I really don't see what more they could do. Maybe they could add the mjpeg 4K. I think any lens change would be part of mkii or xc20. I assume the xc10 has been selling better at $1999, but they like the $2500 price point, so the XC15 will add enough features for that price bracket. 

9 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Yea, like the guy who shot "trick shot", DP on House M.D?

It's part of the C range, it is a pro tool.

So what if a DP who gets paid by Canon has used it? There are pros who make use of the BMPCC and any number of cameras out there- doesn't make them pro cameras. It produces great looking footage, but in terms of build and functionality, it's a toy compared to their higher end cameras/lenses.

First, the EM1 does shoot at 24 fps. Keep in mind, there was a software update to the EM1 and EM5 mkii from about a year ago that added a number of features to each camera. The stabilization is not the same in the EM10 ii. The EM5 mkii and the EM1 offer up to 5 stops of stabilization. The EM10 ii offers 4. Olympus says it's 5 axis but it's not the same as what you get with the EM5 ii and EM1. Your main interest seems to be stills, which is why I'd go with the EM1. But if video is  serious concern I'd go with the EM5 ii. Check out John Brawley's blog if you're interested in either camera as he is a cinematographer and also an Olympus shooter. 

The em5ii has better image stabilization and is much more video focused, especially after the update. I'd consider it or the EM1. They recently had the EM1 for a 1 day only sell at $799. EM1 mkii is gonna be announced at Photokina so you should be able to get new EM1's cheap after Photokina. I would not consider the EM10ii. I'd probably get the EM1. Also, not sure about where you're at but there was a really good deal on the G7. You can get it, the 14-140, a free 25mm f1.7, and $100 off the 42.5mm f1.7. So for $1,297 you could get a zoom that gives you a lot of range and two fast primes. You can also get the G7 without the 14-140 for less money and you still get the free 25mm f1.7.

I think the upcoming Sigma Quattro with 30mm f1.4 kit lens for $999.99 looks like an interesting camera, just for photography though.

mercer mentioned a Takumar being radioactive. I think that's something everyone who gets into buying vintage lenses should be aware of- that some are radioactive and they should make an informed decision about buying them with that knowledge in hand. I fully understand many, perhaps most, of you are not at all concerned about the radioactivity of some of these lenses. But it might be something the OP wants to keep in mind.

18 minutes ago, iR3jected said:

@Flynn We are on the same page Flynn , I couldn't understand why the others where giving me a hard time about my focal length selection while your post showed they are the most popular.

 

But BTT please. I don't know why this again developed to a sensor size discussion. I really think people like to talk about it, even if everybody understood it already.

I gotcha! Was not giving you a hard time.

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However since this is similar to super 35 with is the reference for dops when talking about focal length 

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Do you believe Super 35 is similar to what is commonly referred to as Full Frame- like a 5D? The sensor in a Super 35 camera like the Arri Alexa, at least as I understand it, is almost identical to APS-C in terms of field of view. I simply mentioned those focal lengths because I figured you and other folks would find it interesting, the focal lengths that other DPs tend to find most useful.

If Canon is able to put a 24-100mm equivalent f1.8-2.8 in the G7x  which is tiny compared to the XC10, surely they can provide an even better lens with a similar focal length for the XC15. I know the slow lens tended to be the first thing most people complained about.

I completely understand not liking the guy, but why do the anti-Trump people have to sound so utterly unhinged and irrational? Also, Hillary sucks too.

This person over on cinematography.com polled 25 of their DP friends.

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The poll was simple:

 

Considering the range of Ultra Primes only, what six focal lengths would you select for a starter set?

The results were:

50mm - 23 votes

24mm - 21 votes

32mm - 21 votes

85mm - 22 votes

16mm - 17 votes

135mm - 15 votes

20mm - 11 votes

14mm - 10 votes

100mm - 10 votes

12mm - 7 votes

40mm - 7 votes *

28mm - 7 votes

65mm - 4 votes

10mm - 3 votes

180mm - 3 votes

8mm - 2 votes

http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=59222

My apologies TSV. It looks like I rated this thread 1 star while I was simply scrolling down the screen wjth my thumb. I then tried to change it to 5 stars. Just don't want you thinking someone considers this a 1 star thread, though some people at Panasonic might !