jase

@mercer, pocket some batteries with the pocket, bring your backpack  with the RX10:) no swiss army knife out there, at least not pocket size.
Btw, the 20mm is not just a pancake but some of the sharpest m43 lenses around, close to the 25mm 1.4. TStop is awesome, between 1.6 and 1.7. Would love to have that lens in a housing of a mechanical lens. Like inazuma said, focussing is no fun at all.

I like focus pulls and do it all the time. But I prefer it and get better results with a short throw. There are plenty of people that agree. Which was my point in the last post. One can't argue based one once opinions as if they applied to everyone.

What's useless to some isn't necessarily to others.
Ive used the 17mm a lot and prefer it to a regular fly by wire lens any day.
In no way does it act like a normal fly by wire lens when pulling focus. That is simply not true. The scale and hard stops work. Simple as that.
If it was true it would mean that the speed of the turn made a difference, it doesn't. 
And that the numbers didn't ad up, but they do.
If the throw is to short, that's a different story and like most things individual.
Personally I prefer a short throw to a long any day of the week because it lets me make nice and smooth focus pulls compared to something like the Yeydra which would be shaky and wobbly in my hands.
We simply have different ways of shooting and should choose the tool that suites us best.
I've used the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 on the BMPCC more than most and I prefer the Oly 17mm with a huge margin.
I highly recommend both but the 17mm is a better fit imo.
PS. focus breathing is probably at the bottom three of things I don't care about. Never met a normal viewer that would ever notice.
 

Yep, love that lens and use it all the time!

Well, it was already rumored that Panasonic would split their flagship into flagships... like Sony did with the A7, A7R and A7S series. So... now that they've decided to give us the photocentric G9... maybe up next indeed a low MP count GH5s with lowlight focus (clean ISO6400, usable ISO12800?).

Oh god, something like a GH5s would be.. nuts!

Oh god, something like a GH5s would be.. nuts!

Dude, just retire from all camera and color testing and shoot a feature film with whatever you just did there. I keep saying a modern day Mean Streets with your visuals would be awesome and this 80s film look is phenomenal!!!
PM me the special sauce though. 
What iso did you shoot that at?

One lens, One love, One life... my friend ;-)
Great song BTW:
Apologies to Bono Vox, but as much as the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 nothing beats the unique when some_ONE pops up... :-P

Thanks for the kind words! Obviously I watched some weddings videos before, but tbh - I dont really like them, so I gave it a bit of my own unplanned style of doing things - glad it worked out. At least my cousin was super happy, so thats that.
About the the look: I used the Tiffen Ultra Contrast 3 as always, graded with FilmConvert in post including some shadow / highlight adjustments, but nothing too spectacular. 
About the the Shure: great offer! I will think about it. Your review sounds quite promising. Does anyone know if the sound quality of the Shure is better than, lets say a Rode videomicro directly connected to the camera? I know myself and the less I have to fiddle around when recording, the better I can focus on what I want to do. Switching on the camera and a mic all the time and then synching it in posts sound rather.. annoying compared to connecting a mic without a preamp directly to the camera. But maybe the quality is way low with such a mic compared to the ones with integrated amp... Then again, a videomicro should be way better than the onboard mic. Choices.

Hey @jase,
First of all, I really liked the wedding video, and I actually like it a bit more raw than some of the overproduced wedding videos that I see.  Yes, you can see the judder in the beginning, but I don't think it takes away from the images.  I had the same problem with the IBIS during my documentary when I tried some pans and camera movement (see the shot of the costumes in the museum) or when someone might have bumped me.  Overall though the GX80 IBIS really helped me be able to move fast, and unobtrusively compared to having to use a monopod or tripod.  For shorter static shots you probably cannot tell that it was handheld.  
I like the look of your movie too.  Was that due to a filter that you are using or done in post?
As for the audio and microphones - I think you are in Europe.  I own the Shure VP83F (I got it second hand) so if you want to try it out PM me and I can see if I can loan it to you.  Since I mostly have had cameras without audio input (LX100, GX7, Olympus, GX80) I decided to get this one with built-in recorder.  The microphone works well and is very sensitive it picks up great ambient sound.  I have had troubles with wind noise as the deadcat I have isn't the greatest, but the low-pass filter helps a bit with that.  The mic has a shockmount and which isolates it quite well from the camera body.
Dave Dougdale did a comparison with the Shure VP83 (the one without the recorder):
I my last documentary, I used a combination of the Shure VP83f, the Rode SmartLav+ and Tascam DR-10, the Instamic Pro, and a Sony ICD-SX1000 hand recorder (small and way better than a Zoom H1, but unfortunately discontinued).  If I had some time, I should put a few clips together from the documentary comparing the raw audio.  The Instamic was a bit of a godsend.  It doesn't have as good sound as the SmartLav+ but it can be controlled remotely with a mobile phone and can record a safety track at a lower dB (configurable).  (The DR-10 also has a safety track but only records in mono).  Also it has magnetic attachments so I hid it out of sight on walls, chair legs, overhead lights.  The magnet also made it easy for kids and other on-mic talent to put on their own mics.  The instamic has a mic muff which helps with the wind.  It is a bit uglier than a Lav mic, but I don't think that it was too bad.  If I can get my son on-camera I will set up a test comparing the Instamic, my SmartLav+ into my phone, the Shure on-camera, the camera mics, and the Sony hand recorder close but out of camera on the floor.
Hi there, I really liked the shots.  Was everything there handheld or did you use a gimbal at all?  How did you match up both cameras?  What profile did you use for both cameras?  How do you like the 42.5/1.7?  It seems to almost double as a macro lens.
I'm really curious about this combination as trading in one of my GX80 and have sold my 12-35 and 35-100 2.8 lenses to upgrade to a GH5.  I was thinking of using the 12-60/2.8-4 on the GH5 and the 42.5/1.7 with dual-IS on the GX80.

:-) my wedding "combo"  GH5 Sigma 18-35 and spot shoot  GX80 - Pan 42,5 f1.7
 

Did my first attempt to create a wedding movie since my cousin asked me to do so. Technically speaking, the thing has many flaws: no tripod, crappy in-camera mic of the GX80, .. you name it. Also i was a bit intimidated since the official wedding photographer told me not to get in his way, which is kind of understandable. In the end, the compact form factor of the GX80 really made it easy to wander arround and sneak some shots and i was suprised about the quality of the standard 45-200m zoom which I never used before.
However, it becomes more and more apparent to me that I need a camera with mic-in. Since I am happy with my GX80 the G85 would be the logical step, but the GH5 looks also amazing...
 

http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/vp/vp83f

Did my first attempt to create a wedding movie since my cousin asked me to do so. Technically speaking, the thing has many flaws: no tripod, crappy in-camera mic of the GX80, .. you name it. Also i was a bit intimidated since the official wedding photographer told me not to get in his way, which is kind of understandable. In the end, the compact form factor of the GX80 really made it easy to wander arround and sneak some shots and i was suprised about the quality of the standard 45-200m zoom which I never used before.
However, it becomes more and more apparent to me that I need a camera with mic-in. Since I am happy with my GX80 the G85 would be the logical step, but the GH5 looks also amazing...
 

Hey,

I've been lurking for a while now, and now it's time to post something. I have a GX80 for a few months now. Last week I found the following video about a DIY windbreaker for the built in MIC.
 


Now I thought that I could design something similar that could be 3D printed. So I did tonight. I still need to find some fabric to test it, but if it works I'll share the files.

Hi all,
I've been a long-time reader of this blog/forum and wanted to report back on my first paid documentary commission that I just delivered.  The project was for a local community outreach project that links in education and culture with Carnival arts (http://www.thenewcarnivalcompany.com/).  I spent since last January (on and off) filming 4 schools and community groups as they learned about the theme (70 years of India's independence) and how that learning influenced the making of thier Carnival costumes.  The last 3 minutes of the documentary is essentially a music video of the final parade through the town of Ryde, Isle of Wight.
I filmed everything with 2 Panasonic GX80 cameras in 4k using primes indoors (mostly native Panasonic lenses with some Voigtlander 17/42.5).  For the Carnival itself I used the 12-35 and 35-100 2.8 zooms.  Everything was handheld except some of the multicam wides and the interviews.  The cameras were great as it was easy to be incognito, film in the historical sites, and the cameras were not intimidating to those I filmed.  I shot in standard 0, -5, 0, -5 and only focused on exposure and skintones when colour correcting.  The auto WB actually worked very good.
The audio was a mix of built-in camera mic, Shure VP83f, Rode SmartLav+/TascamDR10, and Instamics.  I also tried to use the http://www.ohrwurmaudio.eu/ binaural microphone to better capture the ambiance of the carnival, but in the end I didn't get around to syncing it or using it.  The Instamics (although quite visible in the interviews) were so useful as I could get the kids to put them on themselves and didn't have to worry about touching, and wiring up lavs.
Some lessons learned:
I had to move really, really fast as it involved kids and the teachers and leaders were busy - it was really run-and-gun.  I missed having the audio input as I could have got better ambiance audio without having to sync - syncing is a pain.  I wish the GX80 EVF was better as manual focus is hard enough.  S-AF on the native lenses was key as I could ensure focus and cut out the hunting.  I need to learn more about and practice audio post production and improve my editing.
There are some obvious faults (interview eyelines, cluttered backgrounds, slight focus issues, IBIS panning judder, under/overexposure on unmanned b-cam) but overall the client and the organisations that funded the project were very happy with the film.
It took me about 70 hours of editing with 15 hours / 700GB (including multicam) of footage.
 

Tokina Angenieux 28-70mm with 5D3 ML Raw...
 
 

Oh I'm sure it looks amazing. When my 720p JVC dies or my 1080p Roku TV goes caput, I may get something like that.

Must resist for now, but for my next major trip arround march i will definitely by that GH5 monster, pair it with the Summilux 12 and a Sennheiser MKE 440 and be done with it. jeez, i want it so bad.

We filmed Sammy the dog touring around Asheville, NC. Filming a dog is a crazy man's work. So difficult, but working with the cutest actor makes up for it haha... Let me know if you have any comments or questions!
 
 

care to get me one as well? :D

I've just picked one of these up and its a pretty nifty little thing.
Basically its a series of locking bars that you can easily change to be anything from a selfie stick for Vlogging to a top handle to a shoulder mount or even a poor man's low mode stabiliser.
As the joints lock in any angle its really flexible in being able to be shaped to what you need it for. Its really useful in the shoulder mount mode actually because you can make the angle of the piece that runs over your shoulder to be really tight so it hooks in firmly.
Each piece also has 3 mounting holes so you can attach handles, mics, lights, monitors, cup holders or whatever else rig enthusiasts like to cram on there if thats your thing.
Its light, versatile, folds down small enough to fit in a coat pocket and at £38 its not exactly going to break the bank.
With something with IBIS like the GX80 I've got it with here, it gives some great additional stabilisation advantage and still keeps you stealth.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Camera-Photo/Movo-SV1000-Aluminum-Combination-Stabilizer/B012Y7UVB4/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1498822792&sr=8-19-spons&keywords=movo&psc=1
 

Yes it has the clutch. Its a bit loose, not voigtlander smooth. More like a Sigma or something. But usable. Its a great street lens since you can zone focus.
An old pic I took with the GX7 and Oly 17mm.
 

The 17 is great and has something I (and others) call mojo, but I dont regret trading it for the Pana 15 for a fraction of a second.