Inazuma

I bought the Viltrox EF-EOS M2 and the EF 17-40mm f4

The adapter weights 140g and the lens is about 480g, so together it's just over 600g. It does look a bit odd but it feels alright due to the M6 having a decent grip for a small camera.

Build quality of the adapter is good. There's no play on either end and it's not too tight either. It feels solid yet is quite light (most speed boosters are over 200g). 

The autofocus works really well. Pretty similar to the native 22mm, just a little noisier. It can be heard in video if the room is silent but otherwise it's not a problem.

Central sharpness is good. Edge is poor up until f8.

Weirdly, the edge sharpness at 40mm is worse than at 17mm.

Overall the adapter makes a great cheapskate option for full frame but I've realised it's a bit surplus to my requirements right now so im returning it. And with lenses like these it's better to have a camera with a bigger grip. 

17mm @ f2.8:

f4:

f8:

40mm @ f2.8:

f4:

f8:

7 hours ago, tomastancredi said:

 but the 4k is softer than c100's HD. 

I wouldnt be so sure about that.. have you seen a side by side comparison? I think even the 1080 would be more comparable than youd think

20 hours ago, androidlad said:

Non-crop 4K on X-T3 and Z6 has the same rolling shutter at around 21ms.

where did you get this info?

4 hours ago, Simon Young said:

I have used the XT3 and the Z6 extensively and even though I ended up selling the former I still miss it for the sheer video quality it puts out. I think it definitely has the Z6 beat in that regard, the image is simply more pleasing, especially in 10bit, and the rolling shutter in 4K is less noticeable than on the Nikon.

But then again I kept the Z6, and it’s a much nicer stills camera, better past 3200 iso, feels a lot more robust in the hands, easier to switch between video and stills, has very useable autofocus and a very good IBIS.

I’ve kept some Fuji glass though...

 

I have kept the 35mm f1.4 for years even when i havent have a fuji body ?  it has a great rainbow flare akin to some cinema glass. Not sure if all copies have this or just mine

Yes on the 17-55 there is a plastic bit that you can pop out at the back. Ive done it before and had no problems putting it back in later. 

7 hours ago, Jim Giberti said:

Please don't blame that delusion on Boomers. Many of us created a lot of the things and people that make the world a good place. Some are as succeptible to propganda and poor discernment just as people your age...whatever that age is.

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"Ok boomer" is just a meme. Don't take it seriously

Its like they handed the footage to the grader he was just like "nope not touching anything with trump"

No i dont think so

It's useful when you need the shadows to be brighter but you can end up with skin looking flat. Overall I'd say to use it cautiously when shooting people but you can use it all you want on environments. 

One of the reasons i dont like using 4k (on any camera) is because when the camera is still, the frame is so detailed that it could be a photograph - which makes it very jarring when the camera moves. Maybe youre having the same feeling as me @DeesserLord

@DeesserLord What custom picture profile do you use on Canons? I'm finding with my M6 that the environment looks better/closer to real life but skin can tend to look too red or have harsh contrast compared to my XT30. 

Also in the video I posted above there is no stutter issue and personally I find the rolling shutter to be only noticeable when doing very fast pans.

Well I received it 2 days ago (3 days before the estimate) ? Years ago my main casual camera was the Panasonic GX7 + Olympus 17mm f1.8. This camera actually achieves everything that I wanted in an upgrade to it. Maintains the same body size but has a better grip. Better sensor. Better colour out of camera. An even smaller 35mm equivalent lens. And has video stabilisation,

I've been comparing the Canon to my Fuji XT30 ?

Something that surprised me is that there's actually a setting called "Highlight Tone Priority" that's not too dissimilar to Fuji's DR setting. 

Disabled:

Enabled:

And so the result is that you can actually get quite similar dynamic range to the Fuji with Eterna on DR400.

Fuji:

Canon:

Fuji:

Canon:

One thing that disappoints me is that bokeh of the 22mm is noticeably smaller than the Fuji's 23mm.

Fuji 23mm f1.4 @ f2.2:

Canon 22mm @ f2:

Another thing I noticed is that Canon's whitebalance usually does a better job than Fuji. Prior to the X-T30 I've also owned the X-t2, which also struggled with finding the right WB.

Here's a video comparing the XT30's 4k at 1/50th and 1/1600th shutter speed. 

3 hours ago, DeesserLord said:

Except it still  has the same unnatural high shutter speed look at 1/50, with rolling shutter making things worse, and you get banding under some led lights which never occurred with the canon.

Some users have actual EXPERIENCE with said cameras while some just endlessly read reviews and forums, just follow the hype and think they help. Yes it’s a great camera for you tubers, for a video look, but not for those aiming an analog film look.

Show me your « filmic » footage with analog like 24p motion shot on the xt30 and A6000 if you want to prove me wrong .

I have been shooting with the XT30 for 2 months and haven't had these issues except when shooting at high shutter speeds. Please do upload some videos on youtube so we can see it for ourselves  Today I'm going to be shooting a side by side comparison between the XT30 and Canon M6 II to see if the motion differs.

I have the Xt30 and dont experience any of the issues you're talking about. Have you already returned it? If not, please give it another chance. Get the 18-55mm f2.8-4 and learn your way around the camera some more.

17 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Any issues with it wide open?

I didnt have any issues with it

6 minutes ago, Simon Young said:

I hope I got a bad apple but I think it might be the camera itself. But purely as a small video tool I thought it felt great. Please report back with your thoughts! @Inazuma

And please let me know how you get on with the Omd Em5 iii. Ive always wanted an olympus, especially since they introduced phase detection. But their 1080p is usually mush. 

When i used to have an A7 iii i had the 50mm 1.8 and was very happy with it!  Please save your money. 

8 minutes ago, Simon Young said:

I just returned this little camera which I bought to complement my Z6 but I’ve chosen to go for the EM5iii instead.

I figured just like @Inazuma that it would make a great neat package with the pancake 22mm, and it sure did. But I couldn’t keep it because of its lacking stills features. The shutter is obnoxiously loud and clunky and there’s an apparent lag when you’ve taken a picture, almost as if the camera need some extra time to write the data to the sd-card even though I used fast uhs-II sandisks.

But for video I thought it was really nice, excellent dual pixel af, hadn’t tried it before but I do realize now where the hype comes from, I thought it was much better than both the Sony’s and Fuji’s I’ve used in the past. The ergonomics were excellent as well imho.

The digital is was also very effective and the colors, well it’s canon. But an abysmal performance photo wise I must say.

Oh thats disappointing to hear! Sounds like the old Sony NEX's with the incredible slow write speed. 

Hey guys I've ordered this camera and it should be with me next week :)

I also have the X-T30 so I could do some comparison shots before I sell it on if any of you are interested.

Reasons for switching are very specific to my needs as a hobbyist. 

• Paired with the 22mm lens it becomes one of the smallest 35mm equivalent cameras. I can take it anywhere in my jacket pocket.
• Video features: object tracking (Fuji can only track faces), digital stabilization.
• From DPreview's charts, the 1080p looks excellent. Decent at 120fps too. I'm not a big 4k guy.
• Canon colours are about as good as Fuji.
• Ergonomics: Much better grip (I have an add-on grip for the Fuji but it adds weight and still doesnt feel great). Built in tiltable flash. Flip up screen (not that id use it much). 
• Can adapt the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 with native AF support.

One thing I really hope Canon makes is something like Sony's new 16-55mm f2.8. Its small, light and stabilised.

If you change the Nikon 24-70 f2.8 to f4 (which would be more equivalent to Fuji's f2.8) then you knock off about $1000 from your Nikon package. I *think" in your case I'd go for the Nikon. 

Previous XA's had terrible 1080p. Do we know if it's any good this time?

I'm really sold on the large bright screen. I hope their implementation of traditional DSLR controls (PSAM, control shutter and aperture with dials) is good. I also like the fact they're using a traditional sensor. X-trans raw files take up more space and are a little slower to load. 

Is there a LUT that converts Eterna footage to Provia (Standard)?

I ditched Adobe over a year ago. DXO PhotoLab and Black magic Resolve are superior to Lightroom and Premiere Pro imo. There are also plenty of Photoshop alternatives. 

This is one of the first lenses I bought when I got a Nikon d5200 years ago. It was a perfect match for the same reasons you mentioned and I'm sure would be too with a speed booster.