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I went to see the film last weekend, as I'm a BIG BOURNE fan I was very pleased with it , nice to see they are still using the TLS Nikon 80-200 that I keep banging on about - Nikons finest hour! their best lens .
Barry Ackroyd (one of my Favourite DPs and President of the BSC) takes over from DP Oliver Wood who shot the first 3 Bourne fims , Barry keeps the same style , all hand held Greengrass wobblecam ! the Athens sequence is intense!!
 
this months American Cinematographer magazine explains it all in great detail -Barry Ackroyd tells how it was made with Igor
Meglic second unit DP.
 
quote:
Second-unit cinematographer Igor
Meglic, ZFS — whose history with
Ackroyd began on the 2012 crime thriller
Contraband — added other cameras
beyond the Alexa. “The reason I usually
have to go to different cameras is because
we either need a lot of them or they’re in
harm’s way,” says Meglic. “Once you start
to bring in six or eight additional cameras,
it’s a cost thing.” Red Epic Dragon units
were used mainly for plate photography in
vehicles, with Canon’s Cinema EOS
C500 used for other vehicle and handheld
work. For applications requiring an ultralightweight
camera, such as helmet
mounting, Meglic opted for Blackmagic
Design’s Pocket Cinema Camera fitted
with Kowa 8.5mm glass. “It’s a pretty
amazing little camera,” he notes. “Weightwise,
it was little more than an iPhone!”
The 2nd unit often recorded
internally — particularly in the case of the
XT and Dragon — while external Codex
recorders were sometimes used for the
Dragon, C500 and Pocket Cinema
Camera. “When needed, we did it both
ways,” says Meglic. “We did vibration
tests, [and] I was a little nervous, but it
turned out we never had a problem.”
Vegas car chase, up to 28 camera bodies
were available for use — although that
many never rolled simultaneously —
predominantly fitted with the same kind
of lenses used by the main unit. Meglic
notes, “A couple of times [during the
London portion of the shoot] we did ask
if we could borrow a lens or two, and they
were always very nice about that!”
Given the chosen style, it’s perhaps
no surprise that Ackroyd describes
himself as “a zoom person.” He singles
out the “beautiful” Angenieux Optimo
24-290mm (T2.8) zoom, noting, “It’s
like my eye, my brain. When something
takes your interest from across the street,
you don’t see it in the same way as when
you’re close to something. You can
exclude things and concentrate.”
The extensive lens package also
included Angenieux’s Optimo 15-40mm
(T2.6) zoom; Fujinon’s 19-90mm (T2.9)
Cabrio zoom; True Lens Services’ 80-
200mm (T2.8) Morpheus, a rehoused
Nikon stills zoom; and Panavision’s
Primo 135-420mm (T2.8) zoom. The
35mm-format prime-lens package
comprised Arri/Zeiss Ultra Primes
ranging from 20mm up to 180mm (all
T1.9) as well as Zeiss Super Speeds from
18mm up to 85mm (all T1.3). The
production’s Super 16mm cameras were
paired with Canon 8-64mm (T2.4) and
11-165mm (T2.5) zooms.
Any concerns about matching the
various cameras and lenses were
subordinate to ease of handling, Ackroyd
says. “I’ve never been one to get too hung
up on the technical side of what the lens
may or may not do. Of course, if you were
making a movie that was highly glossy
and intentionally stylized, you’d have to
pay more attention to that.”
looks like they used Canons on Vehicles and BMs so its going to be hard to tell which is which ...

well I went to see Bourne last weekend and the cuts are so fast and the camera is moving so much that you have no idea what camera is what on the big screen , there are no shots that jump out as being bad or not fitting with the previous Alexa footage , it works they did a good job , now on most major films they are using what ever camera suits each shot / set up...... Bond Spectre was the same Film and Digital combined and multiple camera and formats Anamorphic , Spherical Alexa 65 and 35 all made it into Spectre

I went to see the film last weekend, as I'm a BIG BOURNE fan I was very pleased with it , nice to see they are still using the TLS Nikon 80-200 that I keep banging on about - Nikons finest hour! their best lens .
Barry Ackroyd (one of my Favourite DPs and President of the BSC) takes over from DP Oliver Wood who shot the first 3 Bourne fims , Barry keeps the same style , all hand held Greengrass wobblecam ! the Athens sequence is intense!!
 
this months American Cinematographer magazine explains it all in great detail -Barry Ackroyd tells how it was made with Igor
Meglic second unit DP.
 
quote:
Second-unit cinematographer Igor
Meglic, ZFS — whose history with
Ackroyd began on the 2012 crime thriller
Contraband — added other cameras
beyond the Alexa. “The reason I usually
have to go to different cameras is because
we either need a lot of them or they’re in
harm’s way,” says Meglic. “Once you start
to bring in six or eight additional cameras,
it’s a cost thing.” Red Epic Dragon units
were used mainly for plate photography in
vehicles, with Canon’s Cinema EOS
C500 used for other vehicle and handheld
work. For applications requiring an ultralightweight
camera, such as helmet
mounting, Meglic opted for Blackmagic
Design’s Pocket Cinema Camera fitted
with Kowa 8.5mm glass. “It’s a pretty
amazing little camera,” he notes. “Weightwise,
it was little more than an iPhone!”
The 2nd unit often recorded
internally — particularly in the case of the
XT and Dragon — while external Codex
recorders were sometimes used for the
Dragon, C500 and Pocket Cinema
Camera. “When needed, we did it both
ways,” says Meglic. “We did vibration
tests, [and] I was a little nervous, but it
turned out we never had a problem.”
Vegas car chase, up to 28 camera bodies
were available for use — although that
many never rolled simultaneously —
predominantly fitted with the same kind
of lenses used by the main unit. Meglic
notes, “A couple of times [during the
London portion of the shoot] we did ask
if we could borrow a lens or two, and they
were always very nice about that!”
Given the chosen style, it’s perhaps
no surprise that Ackroyd describes
himself as “a zoom person.” He singles
out the “beautiful” Angenieux Optimo
24-290mm (T2.8) zoom, noting, “It’s
like my eye, my brain. When something
takes your interest from across the street,
you don’t see it in the same way as when
you’re close to something. You can
exclude things and concentrate.”
The extensive lens package also
included Angenieux’s Optimo 15-40mm
(T2.6) zoom; Fujinon’s 19-90mm (T2.9)
Cabrio zoom; True Lens Services’ 80-
200mm (T2.8) Morpheus, a rehoused
Nikon stills zoom; and Panavision’s
Primo 135-420mm (T2.8) zoom. The
35mm-format prime-lens package
comprised Arri/Zeiss Ultra Primes
ranging from 20mm up to 180mm (all
T1.9) as well as Zeiss Super Speeds from
18mm up to 85mm (all T1.3). The
production’s Super 16mm cameras were
paired with Canon 8-64mm (T2.4) and
11-165mm (T2.5) zooms.
Any concerns about matching the
various cameras and lenses were
subordinate to ease of handling, Ackroyd
says. “I’ve never been one to get too hung
up on the technical side of what the lens
may or may not do. Of course, if you were
making a movie that was highly glossy
and intentionally stylized, you’d have to
pay more attention to that.”
looks like they used Canons on Vehicles and BMs so its going to be hard to tell which is which ...

I went to see the film last weekend, as I'm a BIG BOURNE fan I was very pleased with it , nice to see they are still using the TLS Nikon 80-200 that I keep banging on about - Nikons finest hour! their best lens .
Barry Ackroyd (one of my Favourite DPs and President of the BSC) takes over from DP Oliver Wood who shot the first 3 Bourne fims , Barry keeps the same style , all hand held Greengrass wobblecam ! the Athens sequence is intense!!
 
this months American Cinematographer magazine explains it all in great detail -Barry Ackroyd tells how it was made with Igor
Meglic second unit DP.
 
quote:
Second-unit cinematographer Igor
Meglic, ZFS — whose history with
Ackroyd began on the 2012 crime thriller
Contraband — added other cameras
beyond the Alexa. “The reason I usually
have to go to different cameras is because
we either need a lot of them or they’re in
harm’s way,” says Meglic. “Once you start
to bring in six or eight additional cameras,
it’s a cost thing.” Red Epic Dragon units
were used mainly for plate photography in
vehicles, with Canon’s Cinema EOS
C500 used for other vehicle and handheld
work. For applications requiring an ultralightweight
camera, such as helmet
mounting, Meglic opted for Blackmagic
Design’s Pocket Cinema Camera fitted
with Kowa 8.5mm glass. “It’s a pretty
amazing little camera,” he notes. “Weightwise,
it was little more than an iPhone!”
The 2nd unit often recorded
internally — particularly in the case of the
XT and Dragon — while external Codex
recorders were sometimes used for the
Dragon, C500 and Pocket Cinema
Camera. “When needed, we did it both
ways,” says Meglic. “We did vibration
tests, [and] I was a little nervous, but it
turned out we never had a problem.”
Vegas car chase, up to 28 camera bodies
were available for use — although that
many never rolled simultaneously —
predominantly fitted with the same kind
of lenses used by the main unit. Meglic
notes, “A couple of times [during the
London portion of the shoot] we did ask
if we could borrow a lens or two, and they
were always very nice about that!”
Given the chosen style, it’s perhaps
no surprise that Ackroyd describes
himself as “a zoom person.” He singles
out the “beautiful” Angenieux Optimo
24-290mm (T2.8) zoom, noting, “It’s
like my eye, my brain. When something
takes your interest from across the street,
you don’t see it in the same way as when
you’re close to something. You can
exclude things and concentrate.”
The extensive lens package also
included Angenieux’s Optimo 15-40mm
(T2.6) zoom; Fujinon’s 19-90mm (T2.9)
Cabrio zoom; True Lens Services’ 80-
200mm (T2.8) Morpheus, a rehoused
Nikon stills zoom; and Panavision’s
Primo 135-420mm (T2.8) zoom. The
35mm-format prime-lens package
comprised Arri/Zeiss Ultra Primes
ranging from 20mm up to 180mm (all
T1.9) as well as Zeiss Super Speeds from
18mm up to 85mm (all T1.3). The
production’s Super 16mm cameras were
paired with Canon 8-64mm (T2.4) and
11-165mm (T2.5) zooms.
Any concerns about matching the
various cameras and lenses were
subordinate to ease of handling, Ackroyd
says. “I’ve never been one to get too hung
up on the technical side of what the lens
may or may not do. Of course, if you were
making a movie that was highly glossy
and intentionally stylized, you’d have to
pay more attention to that.”
looks like they used Canons on Vehicles and BMs so its going to be hard to tell which is which ...

Libec tripods

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

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The BM Pocket and the Micro are also great, but I find them great when you have time to set them. When you are in rush (run & gun) they are slower, especially outdoor and the battery's life is poor compared to Panasonic. 
I think Panasonic in "natural" Andy' setting, after a good color correction are almost indistinguishable from real cinema camera. I mean: I do love my BM Micro, but I'm faster with Panasonic and the internal codec is really good. 
 

Yesterday I had my first real gig with both G7 and GH4. Cleanest image (in 4K) then GH4 in low light and at 800 ISO. Great awesome camera! 
Thank you very much fro the advice! 
 

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

The inanimate object is 99% of the time indoor, so I could use the normal condenser pencil with the Zoom H5.

Do you think the SmartLav+ could be useful for outdoor instead of the shotgun?
Or which Rode Pro do you think is ok for that work (and maybe for indoor also, just to not change sound from indoor to outdoor)?

I run a recording studio and I do a lot of voice over, I sometimes recorded ADR for some shorts, but they always was like 3 minutes shorts with maybe 1 minutes of dialogues... 
Audio on set is something completely different, a really difficult task!

Thank you!  

Im going to throw Panasonic into the equation, I just shot a Feature film with 6 Panasonic G7 cameras with Nikon Glass and Metabones XL speedboosters and Gini Rigs cages
 
G7 in 4k is an amazing camera I tested it at length against a RED Epic and Arri Alexa and we all prefered the image fom the Panasonic especialy in low light it out performed the Epic , so much cleaner image off the Panasonic no noise or fizz in the blacks like the Epic had.
I shot the movie with these lenses
Nikon 80-200 f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 'Bourne Lens'
Nikon 20-35mm f2.8
all on Metabones speedbooster XLs to give a Super 35mm field of view on the G7 it also made the f1.7 contant apperture zoom .
The Nikon Glass with the Metabones XL gives a look very similar to Zeiss Master Prime lnes its that sharp and good.
with those 3 lenses you can shoot your entire movie
 
 
 
 
 
see pic

thats why I got hired for the movie!!
  I come from a pop video background for 20 years ,I always shoot with gels on my lights , the Director wanted a very modern bold stylised use of colour , he came to me to design the whole look and style of the movie , so I have used different colors and contrasts of colours through out each section of the movie so each scene has a look to it , It was  a very small crew I was DOP and Gaffer ,so I lit the entiremovie myself as well as shooting it .I have big lighting package I brought to the movie of 25 Arri Fresnels , (1k pups , 650s , 300s 150s etc) and kinoflo tube lights 
yes I do use Lee gels all sorts of colours plus I shoot alot at 4000k for interiors the Panny looks better at 4000k than 3200k , just that bit warmer , I shoot day exteriors at 6500k and all my night exteriors at 2500k , yes I do try and use contempory colours there is modern colour palatte in the industry I have embraced alot , this movie has no day exteriors in the whole script , all the exteriors are night time so I got to play with the colours alot which was fun gelling all the Arri HMIs at night I used alot of Peacock Blue and 1/4 blue.
Lighting is a totally subjective subject , I like to treat it as a completely creative tool to help tell the story and a contast in light and dark is also complemented by a contrast of colour in the lighting , why limit your self to what I call boring plain 'white light' , you dont have to just use your lamps as is , gel them with colour and diffusion , most of my Fresnels have F1 diffusion on them all the time , (I rarely use undiffused lamps) ...along with a gel , if you want to play around with this then just get some full CTO and Full CTB gels and start with that , the possibilities are endless!! get creative......

Multi Cam is great for dialogue scenes as you can shoot over the shoulders in both directions at the same time and sneek in a 2 shot wide side on plus ECU head shots in both directions at the same time too !
5 cameras for all that and the actors love it as they can play the whole scene in one pass and its all 'real' the performance can be cut for one actual take so it all edits together perfectly , yes you have to light for it and set up the shots but I do highly recomend it !
its so much faster then with one camera .
I started shooting multi cam on my pop videos after I stopped shooting on film as its so much more useful to get all that coverage faster, so its not something new to me and when the Director of Pandora embrased this way for filming for this movie it was great to be let free to hunt down cool shots with all the extras cameras I had to use.
here you can see a shot from the movie and below it a BTS photo of the set up and how I lit it and shot it multi cam , I used 5 cameras on this sofa scene shooting both sides at the same time. cu head shots, 2 shots and wides all at once - saved loads of time !!

thats why I got hired for the movie!!
  I come from a pop video background for 20 years ,I always shoot with gels on my lights , the Director wanted a very modern bold stylised use of colour , he came to me to design the whole look and style of the movie , so I have used different colors and contrasts of colours through out each section of the movie so each scene has a look to it , It was  a very small crew I was DOP and Gaffer ,so I lit the entiremovie myself as well as shooting it .I have big lighting package I brought to the movie of 25 Arri Fresnels , (1k pups , 650s , 300s 150s etc) and kinoflo tube lights 
yes I do use Lee gels all sorts of colours plus I shoot alot at 4000k for interiors the Panny looks better at 4000k than 3200k , just that bit warmer , I shoot day exteriors at 6500k and all my night exteriors at 2500k , yes I do try and use contempory colours there is modern colour palatte in the industry I have embraced alot , this movie has no day exteriors in the whole script , all the exteriors are night time so I got to play with the colours alot which was fun gelling all the Arri HMIs at night I used alot of Peacock Blue and 1/4 blue.
Lighting is a totally subjective subject , I like to treat it as a completely creative tool to help tell the story and a contast in light and dark is also complemented by a contrast of colour in the lighting , why limit your self to what I call boring plain 'white light' , you dont have to just use your lamps as is , gel them with colour and diffusion , most of my Fresnels have F1 diffusion on them all the time , (I rarely use undiffused lamps) ...along with a gel , if you want to play around with this then just get some full CTO and Full CTB gels and start with that , the possibilities are endless!! get creative......

I have posted this the other day but its relevent here on this thread and some of you may have missed it so here it is again:
 
I use Fresnels most of the time Arri originals and recently I bought a whole bunch of Chinese Arri copy fresnels off ebay for the feature film I just did , I needed to light 3 sets simultaniously and leave the lighting  up for weeks at a time (I had 25 fresnels up at once on 3 sets) ,I like Fresnels as you can use them as a hard light or add some f1 Diffussion and use them as a soft light, you cant do that with Kino Flos they are soft all the time , so for me Fresnels are the way I light most of the time , the exception is lighting Women .. where a soft light is more beautiful , so sometimes if I need a very soft look , I use Kinos then or LED tube lights I have made - basically LED Kinos not tube Kinos ,
The Chinese Fresnels are just as good as the real Arri ones I was amazed , once you have a good globe/bulb in them like Osram - there is nothing in it ,
I bought 150s 300s 650s and 1K Pups and they are all superb , they worked 40 days for 12 hrs a day no issues .
so check these out they are great
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fresnel-Tungsten-Spotlight-150W-Lighting-Studio-camera-Video-/331687239451?hash=item4d3a199f1b:g:x8AAAOSw-zxWoXQS
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-1000W-Movie-Fresnel-Tungsten-SpotLight-Studio-Camera-Video-/252322910892?hash=item3abf9e12ac:g:lP8AAOSwAuNW6hii
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/On-Sales-UK-Fresnel-Tungsten-Spotlight-300W-Lighting-Studio-camera-Video-/252134887278?hash=item3ab4690f6e:g:0k0AAOSwqYBWp0Dk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Studio-650W-Tungsten-Spot-light-Dimmer-globe-Compatible-arri-bulb-/231722293457?hash=item35f3b998d1:g:0nUAAOSwKtlWp0A4
 
they are all amazing prices , I do recomend these lamps .
300w Fresnels in action on the movie Pandora with diffusion and gels on the front - standard stuff for me

I use Fresnels most of the time Arri originals and recently I bought a whole bunch of Chinese Arri copy fresnels off ebay for the feature film I just did , I needed to light 3 sets simultaniously and leave the lighting  up for weeks at a time (I had 25 fresnels up at once on 3 sets) ,I like Fresnels as you can use them as a hard light or add some f1 Diffussion and use them as a soft light, you cant do that with Kino Flos they are soft all the time , so for me Fresnels are the way I light most of the time , the exception is lighting Women .. where a soft light is more beautiful , so sometimes if I need a very soft look , I use Kinos then or LED tube lights I have made - basically LED Kinos not tube Kinos ,
The Chinese Fresnels are just as good as the real Arri ones I was amazed , once you have a good globe/bulb in them like Osram - there is nothing in it ,
I bought 150s 300s 650s and 1K Pups and they are all superb , they worked 40 days for 12 hrs a day no issues .
so check these out they are great
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fresnel-Tungsten-Spotlight-150W-Lighting-Studio-camera-Video-/331687239451?hash=item4d3a199f1b:g:x8AAAOSw-zxWoXQS
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-1000W-Movie-Fresnel-Tungsten-SpotLight-Studio-Camera-Video-/252322910892?hash=item3abf9e12ac:g:lP8AAOSwAuNW6hii
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/On-Sales-UK-Fresnel-Tungsten-Spotlight-300W-Lighting-Studio-camera-Video-/252134887278?hash=item3ab4690f6e:g:0k0AAOSwqYBWp0Dk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Studio-650W-Tungsten-Spot-light-Dimmer-globe-Compatible-arri-bulb-/231722293457?hash=item35f3b998d1:g:0nUAAOSwKtlWp0A4
 
they are all amazing prices , I do recomend these lamps .
300w Fresnels in action on the movie Pandora with diffusion and gels on the front - standard stuff for me

I use Fresnels most of the time Arri originals and recently I bought a whole bunch of Chinese Arri copy fresnels off ebay for the feature film I just did , I needed to light 3 sets simultaniously and leave the lighting  up for weeks at a time (I had 25 fresnels up at once on 3 sets) ,I like Fresnels as you can use them as a hard light or add some f1 Diffussion and use them as a soft light, you cant do that with Kino Flos they are soft all the time , so for me Fresnels are the way I light most of the time , the exception is lighting Women .. where a soft light is more beautiful , so sometimes if I need a very soft look , I use Kinos then or LED tube lights I have made - basically LED Kinos not tube Kinos ,
The Chinese Fresnels are just as good as the real Arri ones I was amazed , once you have a good globe/bulb in them like Osram - there is nothing in it ,
I bought 150s 300s 650s and 1K Pups and they are all superb , they worked 40 days for 12 hrs a day no issues .
so check these out they are great
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fresnel-Tungsten-Spotlight-150W-Lighting-Studio-camera-Video-/331687239451?hash=item4d3a199f1b:g:x8AAAOSw-zxWoXQS
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-1000W-Movie-Fresnel-Tungsten-SpotLight-Studio-Camera-Video-/252322910892?hash=item3abf9e12ac:g:lP8AAOSwAuNW6hii
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/On-Sales-UK-Fresnel-Tungsten-Spotlight-300W-Lighting-Studio-camera-Video-/252134887278?hash=item3ab4690f6e:g:0k0AAOSwqYBWp0Dk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Studio-650W-Tungsten-Spot-light-Dimmer-globe-Compatible-arri-bulb-/231722293457?hash=item35f3b998d1:g:0nUAAOSwKtlWp0A4
 
they are all amazing prices , I do recomend these lamps .
300w Fresnels in action on the movie Pandora with diffusion and gels on the front - standard stuff for me

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