Emanuel

I tried on my G7 with my VA, and after the bad experience I tried with the same units from a colleague, also changing HDMI cable.
When recorded on the VA the G7 had a strong noise pattern. Not on the Atomos. But I cannot afford the Atomos, so I'm recording on SD and I'm very happy with the G7 (the only drawback is that you cannot use HDMI for monitoring, you can only record, while with GH4 you can do it). 

Anyway I'm a big fan of Lumix quality, even if I love the BlackMagic ProRes from Micro Cinema Camera, which I sold for the unpractical (for me) workflow. 

For the way I work, GH4 (which I sold in order to buy the GH5), G7 etc... are the best way and I love them.

I think that shooting with @andy lee settings you have the freedom to do pretty much what you want in post.

I tried to match G7 files with BlackMagic Micro (straight from the card) files in 5 minutes
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I just can imagine what you can do with the new GH5 and a solid V-Log!

p.s.: Andy, what about GH5's 24p ProRes files playback/preview without transcoding? I tried Luke Neumann's files and I cannot played them in preview. Thank you!



 
 

Hey, my production company made this! Thanks for posting.  The movie will be released this year on VOD. 

Seems like they are trying to really change the game like maybe you keep the same body for years and they sell you a 6k sensor to stick in it in 2 years....
I just came across this vid
@ 30min he talks about URSA Pro he was sponsored by them last year and says he has some connections and claims BM is DEFENETLY releasing more gear at NAB
What else could it be? Must be BMPCC 2.0? or a capture card for Ipads... 

Has BMD addressed the magenta cast, corners and fpn even at 800 iso? If so, this camera looks like a beast for the price.

Don't URSA Mini 4.6K EF owners get a hefty discount on the new camera, bringing it down to something like $3500 so I heard and you get to keep your existing camera.... bargain.
4.6K sensor looks nice, it's a custom design and not off the shelf scientific.
And the old Mini 4.6K is still nice.... Pro is just the same camera with NDs and more buttons!

I like Johnnie Behiri's mini-docs a lot when he tests new camera's and I wish more sites that do reviews would follow his example instead of only talk about a camera, pixelpeep and use blown up framegrabs. Ideally it should be a combination of both, a detailed test like Gordon Laing at cameralabs does but geared towards videofunctionality only and then add a nicely shot short documentary. Until that happens our only choice is to look at as many reviews and uservideos, try to filter out the crap and try to make a informed decision before buying to eventually find out the camera has flaws that have not been mentioned by anyone so far.  

The implementation of 10bit is the major benefit as compared to 8bit. 
The codec, the processing, the data rate and sensor all play a factor - 10bit is not going to work at its full potential if these other factors are left behind. 
The FS7 is a great example of well implemented 10bit. Absolutely superior to the FS5 in 10bit internal. 
That said, with most watching video on smart devices - the "final" image quality of 10bit doesn't offer a huge, life-changing leap. 
I'm caring much less about specs and focusing on improving the content in the frame.
Understanding light and composition is far more powerful in improving image quality. We're at that time now. The tools are awesome. Beyond enough. 

It's like you invite someone over to a prescreening of a movie that hasn't been audio mastered, and instead of telling you that there were issues with audio and hearing what you have to say about it, they publish an article to the world saying the movie is unwatchable.  Then they make assumptions and state that the audio issues probably can't be fixed.  Should anyone ever let this guy prescreen movies ever?

Please don't stop the blog! You are the anti-snob and we need a healthy balance of the forces. ?

At the end of the day, it will be the 4K 60P that most people will be buying it for. A feature currently not found in any other stills camera in that price range.

I haven't been following the GH5 drama nor do I regularly read cinema5D, but I do like that Johnnie Behiri's test videos are usually shot nicely often as mini-documentaries, with decent lighting etc rather than the somewhat random heavily graded montages that you usually see. 

Some are more impartial than others, put it that way.
When you have personal relations with a nice man or nice woman from a marketing company or a camera company, you're not going to risk burning that bridge for the sake of a fully honest review which focuses on a number of negatives. You're just not.
Yes I myself have felt the pressure as well. I resisted and continue to do so.
If I cared about my relationship with people in the camera sales industry above the one I have with my own readers and followers, do you think I'd be blasting CInema5D on Twitter? I certainly wouldn't. For me though the blog is more important and shouldn't be 'sold' to the PR world.
It has indeed.
Well the latter part is fine by me. We can have different opinions based on experience and figure out which opinion suits our own experiences and how we intend to use the cameras we buy.
It doesn't.
Regardless, whether you call somebody out or not is a personal freedom.
Especially when it comes to your own blog and some flawed test that claims the rather wonderful GH5 is unusable.
The hype machine is very persuasive... These types of articles get the most attention.
The truth is there is no silver bullet, you cannot buy your way to filmmaking greatness with camera purchases.
But it helps to put your $1000, $2000 or $3000 on the right horse!!

That's one example. No sharpening nor noise reduction applied (-5 both).
I never saw any GH5 footage without any sharpening applied in camera, lol.
The only answer I got from these Panasonic marketing guys was like: "All the DOPs loved the sharpening"... WTF

Only in the E mount, though they eventually plan on releasing them in the X mount- means Fuji is gonna get much more serious about video for their own cameras?
http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/02/22/fujinon-announce-new-fast-affordable-zooms-for-e-mount-mk-18-55-t2-9-and-mk-50-135-t2-9/
 
 

Hell I can't stand using them to make something for fun, I sure as hell can't see them as a main A camera in a 200 millon dollar film, with what little outward controls they have, not counting the cramped space, and no weight to talk about. I am sure it Can be done, but why? It's not like one person is just operating these high end cameras,they are surrounded by people. Now a guy up on a boom, well yeah, but that is not the Main camera all the time.
This Miller guy has to be one of the best graders of Pansonic stuff I have seen LoL. Is this camera, the GH5 That much better! 10 bit adds that much, and they are not even using the higher bit rate stuff. What gives?

I always appreciate to know the camera I work with... call me picky (not necessarily pixel peeper : D all the time, at least hehe)
I recall the finest example that our woman is always the most attractive female for us or it should be ;-)

;-)

And... here's a good kit for those worried about ergonomics based on DSLR/mirrorless cameras:
http://www.woodencamera.com/panasonic-gh4-gh5-camera-accessory-kit-pro-guide-s/322.htm
Hey guys, no mention on film, cinematography and so on but there's something written right there to guarantee is PRO!

No beef actually...but if you're shooting a feature with a reasonable budget, the cost of the crew is high....so I would default to something like the Varicam LT or another cinema camera as A-cam with the GH5 is B-cam...If I was shooting a short...or a commercial or extremely low budget film, I would use it without any hesitation...so, at some point it becomes an issue of false economy....up to the director to evaluate which is which....as far as GH cameras form factor, IMO in the world of hybrids the Pannys are unequalled....and as for the image....from what I've seen, I would not hesitate shooting with it next to a Varicam....

by James Miller
GH5 Stabilizer handheld test with a Zeiss Otus 85mm showing:
1/ No Stabilization
2/ Sensor Stabilisation when set to the mm of the lens including reduction for the Speedbooster .71x
3/ As no. 2 but with in camera electronic stabilization active.

Cudos to sigma for their awesome work and lenses at affordable price.
we can't say the same from Canikon

Actually, the EMD-1 Mark ii seems to have quite impressive noise reduction (on par if not better than the A6500). If Panasonic can replicate that, it would be amazing, especially for video. 

The problem doesn't come from sensor size actually but more from pixel size. 
So you could make a great low light m4/3 sensor. But only at smaller native resolutions

I do firmly believe the most part of us here can only concur with your two cents there : ) My other two and leitmotiv for POV of this thread is only to point out the fact: 4/3" sensor size by Panasonic seems to not match its competitors, the sister Olympus included, at least; as it should be supposed to be, I guess. Lame chance for the new toy : ( But, to be able to beat any other camera in the right hands? But anyone doubts? A camera is not only high ISOs, fancy NR algorithms or stupid marketing strategy trying to mimic the other Sony girl.
I also want to believe that internal 10-bit 4:2:2, 4K/60p (not internal@4:2:2), etc is a proof of solid mature attitude to defy the major players outside and break the waves pushing the envelope further. I just think pretty immature all this NR nonsense. For once and ever, there's nothing videoish about grainy outcome, but filmic! Truly disappointing from their own to my book.

I do firmly believe the most part of us here can only concur with your two cents there : ) My other two and leitmotiv for POV of this thread is only to point out the fact: 4/3" sensor size by Panasonic seems to not match its competitors, the sister Olympus included, at least; as it should be supposed to be, I guess. Lame chance for the new toy : ( But, to be able to beat any other camera in the right hands? But anyone doubts? A camera is not only high ISOs, fancy NR algorithms or stupid marketing strategy trying to mimic the other Sony girl.
I also want to believe that internal 10-bit 4:2:2, 4K/60p (not internal@4:2:2), etc is a proof of solid mature attitude to defy the major players outside and break the waves pushing the envelope further. I just think pretty immature all this NR nonsense. For once and ever, there's nothing videoish about grainy outcome, but filmic! Truly disappointing from their own to my book.

I do firmly believe the most part of us here can only concur with your two cents there : ) My other two and leitmotiv for POV of this thread is only to point out the fact: 4/3" sensor size by Panasonic seems to not match its competitors, the sister Olympus included, at least; as it should be supposed to be, I guess. Lame chance for the new toy : ( But, to be able to beat any other camera in the right hands? But anyone doubts? A camera is not only high ISOs, fancy NR algorithms or stupid marketing strategy trying to mimic the other Sony girl.
I also want to believe that internal 10-bit 4:2:2, 4K/60p (not internal@4:2:2), etc is a proof of solid mature attitude to defy the major players outside and break the waves pushing the envelope further. I just think pretty immature all this NR nonsense. For once and ever, there's nothing videoish about grainy outcome, but filmic! Truly disappointing from their own to my book.