Emanuel

Indeed. What I find interesting here is the noticeable difference between GH4 and GH5 models.

There is no better endorsement than from the people who wouldn't know a bitrate from a pixel.
This covers 99.99% of the world

Same here, and I'm pretty much a Panasonic fanboy. I'll wait to see if Sony does anything at NAB, or whatever the next photo tradeshow after that is. And I'd like to see how the 400mbps firmware looks, as 150mbps is a little light for the high-motion stuff I shoot.
Ahhh, who am I kidding? If I wasn't broke I'd probably have it already

Not this shit again. 
It's only a quarter size sensor if super 35 is a half size sensor and super 16 is a 1/8 size sensor. 
Low light on this thing is actually pretty good - it's not the A7S but it's comparable to the A6300, A6500. Maybe a stop under, becoming noticeable as you get to the upper end of the ISO range.  


Only in terms of depth of field, but if you see the sensor size as a potential advantage that allows you deeper DOF for the same level of light transmission, then that can be an advantage. There's also a (admittedly very expensive) 7-14 2.8 lens from an Olympus, and a 7.5mm F2 manual focus almost-pancake from Laowa launches shortly. If you want to work with Speed Boosters a ' FF 18mm F1.8' is attainable with a 14mm 2.8 and a Speed Booster XL. But how often do you shoot at Ultra wide? There are a bunch of fast options for M43 from the 20mm on full frame and upward. 
I guess it just depends on what you're using it for. You have a point that the auto focus is weak vs the competition, and also about the body getting a bit big for micro 4/3.  I think that's preferable to a too small body that overheats. I'm guessing that the IBIS, 10 bit, high frame rates, etc necessitated a size increase from the GH4, along with the professional features they've added (HDMI and dual SD slots). 
If you're all about low light, a Canon cinema EOS or Sony A7s makes much more sense. 

Heck we all suffer about it, that we don't have enough of it. 
If I had a ton of money I would be down in the Keys drinking Corona's and fondling my Arri Alexa XL. I would not be any better as a filmmaker because of the camera, and that I would probably be too drunk all the time to use it very well anyway. 
Oh and on a grim antidote. I have it in my will that when I die I am going to be cremated and my ashes thrown off the back of a boat, buried at sea in a sense, in Key Largo, my favorite place on earth other than maybe Naples, Italy.  A old sailor thingy.

Sure we are, or we all would not be on here. We all are Crazy in a sense LoL.
Ahh he is a Nikon man at heart.   Who hasn't had a Nikon in their life that is older, and a soft spot in your heart for them. My very first Real camera was a Nikkormat when I was in the Navy @ 19 years old. Bought it used in a pawn shop in Key West, Florida for 65 bucks lens and all I think was the price. Christ that was like Only 50 years ago. Jesus!!! 

@fuzzynormal of course! we all express opinions here, and personal views!
I try to use - and test- equipment in working conditions, because that is the ultimate (and only) test for me, and my results are definite, as there are no middle solutions.
Just weddings here are very demanding, and this camera isn't destined to used like a work-horse, more like a work-bunny! As I said, if you are working long hours on a hot environment then it isn't the camera for you, then, it depends of the use.
Weddings in Northern Europe and North America probably are less demanding.

In December 2016, I wanted a stills camera. After some thought, I was swayed by the A6500 because of the video features. (typical!). 
I've been testing this camera mostly on the excellent Zhiyun Crane (on a price / value ratio I'd say it's the best gimbal you can buy). 
On my most recent shoot, I put it in the deep end. I used Slog2, the 18-105mm kit lens and exclusively used autofocus for the entire shoot. Felt weird. (stills attached)
Overall, this has the potential to be a very special camera... but it's not...quite...there...yet. 
Here's my mini mini mini review: 
PROS
The 4k image is the best 8 bit 4k I've used. Certainly the best in Sony's lineup. There's a very special sauce going on here - it's super gradeable, detailed and the A6500 colour is much improved.  Colour is improved? The image and skin tones are very, very pleasing - both using a standard everyday look and a stylised look (which I tend to go for). Sony look? Not here.  Autofocus is very responsive. Absolutely essential on the Zhiyun Crane, makes it so much easier to focus on the shot as the image is 99% always in focus, even at shallow DOF.  Compact power. Very nice to hold in the hand without a rig. Super light.  120fps is surprisingly good. Sharpened up and exposed nicely, it's a stellar 120fps.  CONS
Rolling shutter is a problem. It's easily avoidable however it can be annoying and ruin a shot. There's very little in the 120fps mode.  Battery life is poor. This is a constant issue with Sony mirrorless. Even if they make the bodies a bit bigger for a higher capacity battery, needs sorting! The LCD dims very low. Maybe this is to manage heat or whatever. But the LCD does dim quite significantly.  LCD gets scratched easily. These cameras need a cover to come with the camera, or flip the other way round. Got 3 scratches on my LCD from transit.  Some of the buttons are flimsy and thin. Sony need to extrude the buttons more. The wheel on the back i especially fiddly to use.  CONCLUSION
The 4k image in XAVC-S is absolutely fantastic - I've not been wowed by image quality in a while. But it do get giddy when editing it. What's going on there? 
The shortcomings do dilute the experience a little - and Sony should sort them out for the A6700. With other expected updates, this would be a classic camera. 
There should be more love for this camera, as it sits under the hype shadow of the GH5. (I expect the GH5 to be awesome, but haven't used it). 
Overall - it's a very useful tool in the bag with some stunning features, great for stills too. 
 

Your opinion is well reasoned.  However, if someone uses certain gear and they enjoy it, that's perfectly fine.  In this hybrid market it's all a compromise anyway.

Isn't that just reflections of her hair, 
and terrific that the sensor picked up that subtlety?

When are people able to understand centrism as moderate viewpoint of the whole humankind in general has won the plea?!
For some good reason, right? ; )
The whole point, dudes, is the trend to extreme standpoints. To each its own.
What about a mid term?
That is, when both worlds can coexist altogether. Manual from film and analog environments don't necessarily mean absence of any sort of automation if this will bring some advantage. New jobs will be required for focus pullers. Upcoming techniques can't be stopped because people need to make bucks for living. Go and get a new life! -- stop for once to be morons...
Maybe, that's only me but, coming from Steenbecks, I am fully done with these pseudo-film-PROs trying to convince the world they still lead something or someone in this industry.
Anyways, on the other hand, this can't be read as you'll have a button able to decide what to put in focus or into the frame, c'mon...
: P
*Sigh*
What about peaking and some other features such as tap to focus or the new touch pull/follow focus aid brought by GH5 to set the point up?
;-)
 

A lot of back and forth - between shooting raw vs log.
I did a bunch of tests.  
And in the end, yea, say what you want how PRO RES 4444 is just as good,  I just find RAW gives me better highlight information overall, especially on the Ursa Mini, and  it is nice to worry about color temp after shooting on a doc, not during it, as you move quickly between locations, and light changes quickly.
sharpness, all that, you can control more in post and yes, in raw,
seems to have more noise in the image and log smoothes it out
but, at this point, some noise is good - most digital images are too clinical, too sharp, too everything
any flaws are welcome to the image
so yea,
that's my take on it all.
So sorry Stu and Prolost cats - raw seems good for me.
As well as 100% of the DP-nominated films from the oscars - all shot on Arriraw - I think - or most of them.
whether its for VFX or resolution or god knows what - it just seems like all the cool kids are doing it.

Hi everyone, sorry to interrupt your discussion as i dont wanted to start a new topic for a minor question. I was lucky enough to get a GH5 today and was wonderign if you guys could recomend me some good, reasonably priced, SD cards for shooting video? And should i wait for the new v60 standard cards, because of the 400mb/s update? thanks a bunch!

http://www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-gh5-queenstown-tour-2017/
 

I took it out of the box. Was fun. I have no idea how to pronounce your name Jon.
 

Politics is part of life, almost as much as your/our/Andrew's fav cam/film/shot is. We just can't live outside of the bubble for longer than our legs. Inner circles don't help, it doesn't matter whether the side you are.
'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.' ~ Daniel Patrick Moynihan

http://www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-gh5-queenstown-tour-2017/
 

omg what have i done ? SORRY sorry sorry no more 911 posts ever i promise
 

What do you guys think about Kennedy assassination btw ?
Should college students carry firearms to protect themselves during mass shootings on campus ?
Are people in UK stupid to have voted for the Brexit ?
Why is Marine le Pen so popular in France ?
Do you think Russia was behind the Democrat/Hillary email hack ?
What happened to the MH370 flight ? Is someone hiding something ?
Are Muslim terrorists a deviant form of a peaceful religion or the visible part of an intrinsically violent Islamic culture ?

Can't wait to hear your opinions. No Godwin points please. Courtesy first

 

Deleting an account is censorship. Whether you like it or not, you're part of this community either way.
What you can do is type something jibberish like 'dhfjhsdaptuh43phejdah' and change your password to that, then log out and hopefully never be tempted to reset your password.

I don't know... no offense to anyone's opinion, we're all entitled to them, but who gives a shit what Andrew's political opinions are? Or mine? Or yours? Or anyone's?
Arent you the member who used to own an XC10 and D750... and if my memory serves me, you recently bought an F3? If this is you, you have posted some good work, focus on that and ignore the rest... or don't and let some random guy from the internet, who you obviously disagree with dictate your time spent on a video site...
I mean, I disagree with almost every dipshit, crackpot political theory I read on this site... from both sides of the aisle... it doesn't mean I cannot learn from their video experiences...
But whatever...