Andrew Reid

​WRONG!! IDIOT!! It's 100% actually

Another finding... with the 1D C MJPEG 4K LOG footage Wondershare applies its own contrast setting, slightly crushing the blacks - less severe than with the NX1 but still a problem. iFFMPEG is a real find, thanks a lot GMaximus.

Just double checked the conversion rates. Wondershare took 28 seconds to convert a 5 second long test clip from the NX1 to ProRes LT. 7 seconds of that were at the start whilst it said "Waiting" iFFMPEG for the same 5 second H.265 clip to ProRes LT took 13 seconds. Even if you subtract the 7 seconds from the Wondershare time it's still nearly double the time. That's for one clip... might be quicker with multiple clips as Wondershare can use 4 cores, one clip per core so simultaneous conversions on the go. iFFMPEG is doing a 1 pass encoding, not sure what Wondershare does but iFFMPEG produces the nicer file so it's all moot.

Strange, I found it faster! What system are you using? Contrast, not sure, but if it drops any further I don't think it'll reveal any more usable info in the lows / blacks, just more blocking. Will be interested to see what your macroblocking bit rate changes do. You're right that is a weakness of the NX1, it does compress the shit out of the shadows

Focus is off a hair and different lens used so ignore that. Was purely concentrating on the spread of light from the highlight to the shadows. But that blow-up reveals something else interesting... The contrast of the A7S shot is much higher. You seem to have dark dots and the sellotape tab doesn't look right, kinda muddy and same colour as the rest of the board. The 1D C looks like it contains 10x the colour and shades to the A7S shot.

A7S + Shogun 4K in S-LOG exposed for highlights. 1D C the same, but 4K internal (Canon LOG). 1D C seems to have a dynamic range advantage. Maybe of 2 stops more usable information. I don't understand why the A7S is dumping so much data in the shadows. Big holes in it and lots of noise. Blacks should not be crushed like that in a LOG profile! When you have a shot without a really hot area (like a window or light you want to expose for) you MUST bring S-LOG 2 up away from those lows to get a good image, even if it means putting the ISO to crazy levels. The 1D C is different. It's applying ISO at an analogue level, and ISO 200 seems to have the same dynamic range as the other ISOs. A7S needs to be at ISO 3200 as we know. Not trying to justify my purchase here, just giving you some of my research early ahead of the blog post for commenting on. Will add depth to the final article to hear your thoughts. But it seems 1D C is looking like a real bargain if the price keeps dropping...

Somebody got a serious bargain with the Cinegon one. That thing is ultra rare. On that Iscorama movie camera vanishingly rare in fact. Also the Cinegons were the earliest of all the Iscoramas and perhaps the nicest looking. Great flare. Good luck with the sale Ben!

Ah wondered about that (directory issue). Thanks neo!

​Apparently they bought two C500 EFs when they first came out and haven't been able to shift them. Park are a stills photography store.

​I like people who ask good questions [Goes off to check...] Yes it's a good fit actually. Only the tiniest little bit of corner shading at 1.3x in 4K. The 1.85:1 crop gets rid of most of it. Easily fixable in post for the shots where it shows up (i.e. on a plain wall or sky). There's no hard vignetting. Any shading is pretty much gone by 24mm. Looks great!

​Thanks I'll give that a go too. Searched for it on Google before but couldn't find it.

​Prices aren't falling fast? The C500 just got a £10,000 price drop at Park Cameras http://www.parkcameras.com/23725/Canon-EOS-C500-EF.html It's now £9999 and in-stock, and they still can't seem to shift them. Canon may be number one for the 1D C's image but it came too expensively. They are number 5 in the market that really matters. Behind Sony, Nikon, Blackmagic and Panasonic for anything affordable! C100 and C300 are the last gasp of the 1080p era... workhorses that were great in their day but we're moving on quick from this era now. People need high speed and high resolution. That C500 is bound to be attractive to someone at £9999! Or perhaps they think it should do 4K internally for that price considering the FS7 is out now. Times change. Opinions change. Better accept it.

Like with PL lenses, there are very few OCT 19 lenses that fit the EF adapters. There are PL - EF adapters out there as well but hardly anything works in them! To shallow!

Hmm. Rather pay the 17 euros I think. It's fine if you understand that. Well done to you!

​That you like it Christina is a good sign Just unboxed it and already I can tell there's a ton more colour and data in the 4K MJPEG files than in the A7S Shogun files. Canon LOG is phenomenal, the amount of stuff that is in the shadows and highlights when you grade it or pull it around. It's like having raw again on the 5D! But 4K and bullet proof reliable!

​The 1D C was £12,000 in the UK inc VAT when it came out. You expect me to have the same opinion now it is £5k and sitting on my desk, isn't that just a BIT silly!?

One thing the Samsung NX1 shares in common with the much more expensive Canon 1D C is that both produce files which are tricky (or impossible) to edit natively on most current hardware and software. The 1D C’s MJPEG is sluggish to edit on anything less than a powerhouse of a machine and the H.265 from the NX1 also needs transcoding to ProRes 4K which is editable even on a reasonably specced Macbook Pro. iFFMPEG replaces Wondershare Video Converter as my tool of choice for this. Thanks for the tip off GMaximus! Read the full article

Like I've already said (did you read the blog /P/?) it will be my stills DSLR as well, and a top end one it is. X-T1 can't do AF properly. D750 has a Nikon mount, can't use all my lenses on it. A7S can't do AF properly either! 1D X / C can do everything in terms of stills and allows me to sell the 5D 3 and quite a bit of other kit to fund the purchase. The 4K image from the 1D C is amazing. I love the NX1, amazing for the price but the 1D C holds onto a more filmic fine grain and has Canon LOG so you get more D/R plus it has the all important low light whilst NX1 does not. The A7S with Shogun is also great but sometimes I need to go without the external monitor or into tricky weather situations where the A7S & Shogun would simply die. Then there is the Canon colour... Yes I may still regret it but you only live once. I believe at it's current used price it's a bargain, bonafide Hollywood cam.

Christina and dahlfors thanks, I will look into it!

Two people I know sold theirs for even less than £5000, one around £3500 It's worth more than that but shhhh don't tell anyone. Hope more arrive on eBay soon. One I featured hasn't yet sold for £4800. C'mon people wake up to this... it's an amazing image. Better than C300 by a mile!

.MTS format = AVCHD. That's what the GH2 records, normally.

​Fair enough! And sure, most 1D C owners don't need the hack or the reliability headaches. But the 1D C should be hacked because it can be. Magic Lantern would be able to do some amazing things with it. I say go for it.

Some of the hacks don't allow playback in-camera which is what freaked you out. It's normal. Recording is fine unless it stops half way through a shot. Go for a hack with a lower bitrate, you'll have to sacrifice quality for reliability. Then give it up and get a GH4 already, it's 2015

Like I say I noticed it once and it went away after some menu changes. Sorry can't be of more help. I did shoot with a Sammy lens in the video, the 30mm F2.0 pancake. It behaved itself. Get the Nikon adapter and see if it does the same thing. If it works, then the lens aperture or something to do with the firmware is fiddling with the image. Here are the main things to turn off: Framing mode (adjusts brightness on the fly for live-view) Auto ISO (obviously) Check iris isn't moving during the problematic shot (look into the lens) Turn off auto display brightness Put metering on Multi Set Dynamic Range (Off) in stills menu and in movie menu turn Smart Range Plus + Off It could be a bug where a stills menu function like "Dynamic range" or "Framing Mode" is interfering with movie recording. In theory Framing Mode should only change the live-view display but it might impact the recording too due to a bug so turn it to off. Good luck! I know it can work fine. Just a matter of finding the culprit.

SO, getting back to more artist subjects. Artists want anamorphic, they want raw, they want a lot of nice stuff in their palette and they're entitled to it. It may be nothing but a business to some people but there should always be room for artistic expression and Canon should listen to us. Big Magic Lantern supporter here so be careful when you belittle them.