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That’s about the sum of it, at least regarding lenses. The f1.8 primes are decent and the 50mm f1.4 apart from the weight is stellar, but otherwise…

I am more photo orientated, Why should i buy this if you can I buy a s5II for a lot less? While nikon and sony, are showing off impressive glass like 28-70 f2, 50-150 f2 , a 200-600 telezoom, a 135mm f1.8, a 35mm f1.2 Best thing Panasonic can come up with is an 26mm pinhole, a 24-60 f2.8 zoom in the contested space with sigma zooms, a 28-200 that that nobody cares about, at least the 18-40 was somewhat novel. Its sigma that really keeps the L mount alive. Leica is like a venn diagramm meme with almost no overlap. it does it own thing and nobody else seems to care. How many panny f1.4 primes do we have? one!! How many >300mm zooms does panny have? *cricket noises* powerzooms: we lost the technology after our micro four thirds Also from the makers of small and compact micro for thirds camera's, in their infinite wisdom they decided that the best way to upgrade the heavy,rugged S1, is a smaller camera with lightweight lenses!

My S1 seeing the body of its successor:

I thought this was interesting: https://www.filmsupply.com/articles/j-cut-vs-l-cut/ Helps to understand the relationship between audio and video and how each engages the audience.

That would be and has been my approach and adding my own stamp to it.

I agree. They are, but I think some other things are much more significant e.g. the huge improvements in image stabilization performance are game changing if (like me) you prefer to shoot handheld (I own a couple of tripods and monopods, but they don't get used very often).

Agree and just another example of the utter muppetry that is Lumix’s ‘marketing’.

I don't know how forum discussions at speculation stage translates to more sales. I understand that it may generate some "oh maybe this is my dream camera" inner thoughts, but there will be also post nut clarity after real specs and performance revelation moment. I mean you need discussions AFTER the press release, not before. Because if the new thing is not boring, people would discuss about it for months.

I would tend to disagree with a lot of users here. The price seems outrageous for what you get, but I do think a more compact S1 style image with lower rolling shutter and a body recording 32bit audio would basically check all the boxes I could think of needing. I don't need to chase other features. I do worry about over-sharpening though, as was the case with the s5II.

In many cases, I'm pretty sure that the leaks are actually part of the marketing strategy for the manufacturers. They just want to be able to control how and when the leaks come out. Look how the trickle of leaks has inspired discussion on this forum. If Panasonic simply said they were releasing a camera on May 14 and then released it on that day with no leaks, it would be discussed here for maybe a week after (maybe less judging by the reactions above) and then a bit more when real people start receiving them. Instead, it's discussed for more than 2 weeks. The latam leak seems legit accidental, though - and I can't see it now. Judging by the discussion around it, I don't think I care much about that. Guessing it'll be a 6K camera that looks a lot like a camera (to judge by the leaked photos) and will have some fans and some detractors.

Yes, I hear you, but I look at my countless videos that I've made with Panasonic cameras (GX7, GX85, GH6, G100, VX980, GX800, GM1, GX880, S5ii and GH2) and I think they look great. All the things people say about getting nth degree AF, IQ, and resolution are really just small potatoes in the grand scope of thing. The thing is I get MORE satisfaction out of a camera that is a slight challenge to make intentional choices rather than a camera filled with AI choosing for me. I feel like spring cleaning is on the horizon, getting rid of crap I don't need and trying to back to the essentials. I want more in-focus, not less. I want more tripod shots, not less. I want easier in post, not harder. I want less megapixels, not more (BTW, as those around me get older, more megapixels is not doing them justice). Finally, I want fewer variables, not more. I'm so impressed with what @kye has been doing. He's really capturing some nice compositions and looks.

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Yes, having been a happy user of the 14-140mm F3.5-5.6 for over a decade (I'm on my 2nd copy after my 10 year old original got too much dust inside), it's a great travel/everyday lens. Problem is that Panasonic don't make a modern equivalent of the GX85/GX9 to create the perfect travel combo for video with Dual-IS and no-crop 4K...

All cameras will suffer from moiré in some contexts even with an OLPF. There are numerous examples of this. Also, the Z6iii had way bigger problems at launch (shadow-flicker gate). Higher megapixel cameras, in general, will have fewer problems with moiré in my opinion.

That is where I am at with old Pannyboy. Moved over to them from Fuji as I felt I wanted to be in full frame rather than APSC for both stills and video. Initially continued with APSC video, albeit in L Mount flavour and in non-log before upping my game in that regard also. I feel I have now reached 'peak set up' for my video needs with L Mount and just about there on my stills needs with a combo of Sony & Nikon. I don't need Lumix/L Mount to develop any further. I would have liked to have seen them do so, but the signs are now that they have stagnated. Big time. The S9 was and is OK and works for my needs. I could make a case for the S1Rii, but it would be a sideways move. For video, lens-wise, I'm covered. For stills though, I have one last fairly big decision to make. Well not so much make as I have already made it and that is re. a specific lens and when that happens, it also makes sense to go over whole hog, to Sony/e-Mount for both stills and video. It could not work for me in the other direction ie, there are still big holes for me in the stills department with L Mount. So sorry Lumix, the writing is on the wall. My wall at least. Nothing wrong with what you are currently providing for me, but I doubt very much whether I will be with you beyond October of this year. And that is on you.

Yes but that's is what the S1ii is supposed to deliver, the 50fps 4k. But it's a piece if shit if it suffers from the same moiré that plagues the Z6iii and the s5ii anyway. And supposedly for 3500 euros 🤣

Well most of us were just waiting on 50fps 4k full frame. I hope everything else improved as well. Like a better monitor, better colors etc. Prores raw internal is a bummer as resolve does not support it natively.

Specifications on the S1iiE leaked: https://latam.connect.panasonic.com/mx/es/productos/lumix/lumix-s1iie Not very exciting apart from the Arri logC information. Between the lines this seems to carry a tweaked IMX410 once again.

One of the key parts of what makes an NDA enforceable in the UK is the consideration of a power imbalance between the parties. ”Parties should not attempt to take unfair advantage of any imbalance in power during the negotiation of an NDA” I’d like to see the outcome of “$58Billion Revenue/230K Employees company Vs Blogger” in respect of trying to make that fine stick. There is also a part in excluding its enforcement if you divulge the contents to law enforcement. So if it was re-using the same S5ii body shell then you could legally have walked out of the restaurant and into the nearest police station and announcing to the duty officer “I would like to report a crime”.

I was a long time Panasonic user who have bought most of their high end cameras and lenses, but not anymore. I had some issues with their full frame lenses developing white dots inside the internal elements, including a 2500$ 50mm S Pro lens. This is something well documented everywhere from Facebook groups to Dpreview forums with many users having the same issue on the same lenses. All what they was able to tell me is it was probably mold, implicitly saying it was caused by my fault because of bad storage or use. Of course this is my fault, I have used a lot (really a lot) of lenses from Canon, Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Samsung, Olympus etc, I always stocked them in dry place and never used them in the rain. I just never seen anything like this. I have even seen this issue out of the box on a new Lumix S 35mm f1.8 lens, someone on Dpreview also had its Lumix S 35mm lens exchanged because of the same issue, he should have returned the lens immediatly for a refund like I did. But yes it's probably my fault to have bought too much of their craps. It's also probably a coincidence if only their Lumix S lenses are affected ... The only similar case I've seen was from a 50mm Sony FE Zeiss Planar which had a recall by Sony. And like on the Panasonic S lenses, it didn't looked like mold or fungus at all, just bad internal elements degrading over time and affecting contrast. I don't particularly like Sony either but at least they were more honest. I have zero confidence in buying their products again.

I'm with Andrew. If the leaked specifications are confirmed, I find these two cameras to be completely dull, boring, and uninspired. I don't work in research and development, nor in the marketing department but I was a loyal customer and so I really don't understand the strategy (if there is a strategy). You have 5% of the market and you present two absolutely anonymous cameras that don't stand out from the multitude of cameras sold by the market leaders. You can't afford 6 full-frame cameras. What we all loved about Panasonic was its ability to stand out from the rest. In a market completely dominated by the usual players, it was able to innovate. Now that drive has been completely lost. Precisely because you are constantly losing market share and are fading into oblivion, for me the motto applies: When in trouble, go big! You have also absorbed what was once the professional division and you continue to present tired and worn-out concepts. RIP Panasonic

https://latam.connect.panasonic.com/mx/es/productos/lumix/lumix-s1iie According to this it looks pretty interesting although I’m still not too clear on the difference between the models other than a white box.

You can use Davinci Resolve practically with any mid range or even low specs PC or laptop and still have smooth scrubbing and editing experience by just changing a few settings. You can find which ones in Learn Color Grading youtube channel. The only difference between different PC or MAC configurations would be the export times. Faster and more powerful PC or Mac will give you shorter export times. In the comments of the following video you can find benchmark results from different generations and configurations of Apple Arm chips and PC builds as well, how their export times compare to each other. You can benchmark and compare your current configuration if you are curious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aKttjfY-Og Was in a similar position as you, considering PC upgrade. Bought second hand Mac Studio instead for several reasons good price - 1500 E for a well specked machine - Mac Studio M2 Max 12 Core CPU, 30 Cores GPU, 64 Gb RAM. Not willing to spend 4000-5000 E for a brand new MAC machine with similar specs. 64Gb RAM is a must. 1500E though is a very good price and I don't mind buying second hand. SSD test showed it is in really good shape with lots of write cycles left. get some firsthand experience with arm processors and have at least one machine running Mac OS. Always wanted to try those Apple Arm processors, they are so efficient and fast. VirtualBox which I use professionally can now run on Apple Arm CPUs. use it as a video / photo editing machine, as my PC build is relatively old - i7 9700K with Radeon 6600 8Gb. run some local AI models, do some research in this area, related to my professional work. Apple ARM CPUs have unified memory with fast access which makes them really good to run AI models. They can’t do AI training though. Mac Studio has a replaceable SSD. If at one point in time mine dies I can still buy one from Apple or from alternative source for cheaper price. It doesn't have screen, keyboard and doesn't move so in theory it should be less prone to failure. Apple ARM CPUs and Graphics have hardware decoding for x265, which is another bonus for video editing compared to my older PC It is small, dead silent and runs everything so fast and smooth that I really don't need anything better. Mac OS has it quirks and if you've been a PC user for a long time, you'll need some time to adapt. Maybe in the future I still will upgrade my PC but currently Mac Studio is my main machine for video editing.

Absolutely! : ) When not dizzying... I appreciate Andrew is opening this thread for this topic anyway. They can be different things... It's the shooter, folks! ;- )

Yes, same question!