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I got lucky and got my s1 + vlog upgrade for 1500 one year after introduction. Depreciation is nice for new entry into the system. But for owner selling their gear its not great i also think its a bad omen that stuff depreciates so fast. On the other hand, old MFT stuff on the second hand market is wild now. I saw an GF3, for 300 including lens. 300 was the price I paid at that time for a new one, lens included! even wilder a GF1 for 350😆 its like the dutch proberb "wat de gek ervoor geeft" (what a fool will pay for [it])

You can compare launch prices, but thats not really relevant. What matters is what you can currently can get. And currently the S5II is 1600 new, 1350 used. Nikon Z6 III is 2200 new, the A7 IV is 2.349 new, 1950 used.The R6 II is 2400 new,2000 used. I dont know all the differences between these camera's, but i think they are solid camera's. Nothing that the S1II offers makes be go "mmm those features are worth the €1000 price premium"

Europe should not be affected by the US tariffs, however list price(DC-S1 Mark II) here is €3.499 regardless.

Maybe the camera itself is a lot better then the doom and gloom forums suggest, However, I just cant see the the suggested current price point being "reasonable" The market has changed, the first EOS R and Nikon Z were not feature rich, I think they wanted to protect the dlsr market. Nowadays however, why buys an dslr? Almost everybody I know shoots mirrorless, and Canon Nikon and Sony make great camera's, for competitive prices. Its like Panasonic expects people to pay a hefty premium for features that "could have been a firmware upgrade" Maybe thats a bit of a hyperbole, and that Panasonic also innovated with hardware, but my point still stands: if features like arri log, luts, shutter angle, etc, are not commonly found on other brands, then why are those still selling like hot cakes?

or wait untill tomorrow, when its the official release.

I am more photo orientated, Why should i buy this if you can I buy a s5II for a lot less? While nikon and sony, are showing off impressive glass like 28-70 f2, 50-150 f2 , a 200-600 telezoom, a 135mm f1.8, a 35mm f1.2 Best thing Panasonic can come up with is an 26mm pinhole, a 24-60 f2.8 zoom in the contested space with sigma zooms, a 28-200 that that nobody cares about, at least the 18-40 was somewhat novel. Its sigma that really keeps the L mount alive. Leica is like a venn diagramm meme with almost no overlap. it does it own thing and nobody else seems to care. How many panny f1.4 primes do we have? one!! How many >300mm zooms does panny have? *cricket noises* powerzooms: we lost the technology after our micro four thirds Also from the makers of small and compact micro for thirds camera's, in their infinite wisdom they decided that the best way to upgrade the heavy,rugged S1, is a smaller camera with lightweight lenses!

I am not sure what the next camera will be. The S1R had a "upgrade" with the S1RII. it had more of a S5 body style. so not as rugged as the original. The original S1 vs S1R only had the sensor as a difference. But then where to put the S1 non R successor without cannibalising the current S5/ S5II market. (if they keep the same form factor) Both camera's are on sale currently making it hard to ask more then 1700. If they keep the same 24 megapixel sensor like in the S5 then whats the point? what feature will make it stand out? Only thing i can think of is an S1S like in sports. fast burst rates, great AF, because Sony limits burst speeds with sigma glass.

i also was expecting more from the S1RII. Its odd product placement, more like S2.5R: sits between the S1R and S5II. it does not feel like a flagship model,the resolution is watered down compared to the old one. And the video capabilities are more "nice to have in a photo camera" than "core features for a good hybrid camera" smaller battery does not help. On the other side, it i could be an nice upgrade for users of the old S1. more megapixels, better autofocus, still has good weather sealing. But as an S1 user I am not tempted, the S5II offers much more value. And honestly, i am satisfied with my current camera. Capture one thether support is welcome though. its one of the last brands to have support. I wonder if they can add it to other camera's as well with firmware updates.

My s1 also drains but never had the feeling it was dead after one week,but you need to keep bluethooth and wifi off, otherwise yeah, it dies quickly.

I understand that you want to block DPreview, I used to have a DPreview account, but i left a few years ago. I cant remember excectly why, but the strange gold/silver ratings of camera's or the inconsistency of listing the downsides like "No internal raw to jpg processing" or just the general moderating of their forums didn't help Also around that time their forum still had a post limit of 150 posts per thread😂 A different tech site where I am also a member can have threads as long as 20000 posts

Now you are just plain making assumptions

i just watched the reviews from Gordon Laing. And one thing i noticed is that the R6 has a sticker on the back warning about the hot surface, while the R5 does not. Seems like canon did not forsee the r5 overheating

I only briefly read the article, but from my understanding most issue's (like bitrate) can be solved with new firmware. The overheating is harder to solve.

Olympus has made losses in the last couple of years on the camera business. They have enough profits in other markets to cover up the losses. But i think the investors weren't quite happy. So its understandable they wanted to have it sold. I don't know what caused the downfall. Every brand is dealing with declining sales. So that can't be the reason. Poor management and choices? - maybe. I did notice a trend of moving away from the lower end. Many expensive pro lenses, like the 150-400. if it will ever be in production.

The camera's in smartphones are getting better and better, but so do "traditional" camera's And you cant beat physics. for example a f2 lens on a 1/2" sensor (~30mm2) wont cut it to a larger aps-c(370mm2) camera with even a kitlens.remember f2 on such small sensor its equivalent to f11 (full frame) due to the 5.41 crop factor. Until flat lenses become available, the camera and lenses will be limited due to the lack of space in a smartphone. (nobody likes a big protrusion on their phone) you want more quality? get a bigger camera Many consumer compact camera's like the ixus are spec wise not better than a smartphone, maybe except the zoom function. they usually offer the same sensor size, smaller screen, also lack many direct controls for setting iso shutter speed etc. Prosumer/enthousiast camera's are becoming the only reasonable step up from a smartphone. although the definition of "prosumer" is kind of vague. I think entry level dslr's are under that group too. most users wont care much about taking control, they just want better pictures. as for enthusiasts the newer camera's seems to differentiate more and more towards a high end, including a higher price point. here is a list of introduction prices: a6000: 650€ a6300: 1250€ a6500: 1700€ sony a7: 1500€ sony a7II: 1700€ Sony A7s: 2400€ Sony a7sII: 3400€ RX100 Mk1: 650€ RX100 Mk2: 750€ RX100 Mk3: 850€ RX100 Mk4: 1100€ RX100 Mk5: 1200€ And that worries me. enthousiast that are serious about photography (not the Instagram kind) a camera should still be at a acceptable price. I dont think apps are the best way. the way i see it, its a way of asking money for something they shoud be in the camera in the first place. Like the intervalometer in the sony a7.