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The camera's in smartphones are getting better and better, but so do "traditional" camera's And you cant beat physics. for example a f2 lens on a 1/2" sensor (~30mm2) wont cut it to a larger aps-c(370mm2) camera with even a kitlens.remember f2 on such small sensor its equivalent to f11 (full frame) due to the 5.41 crop factor. Until flat lenses become available, the camera and lenses will be limited due to the lack of space in a smartphone. (nobody likes a big protrusion on their phone) you want more quality? get a bigger camera Many consumer compact camera's like the ixus are spec wise not better than a smartphone, maybe except the zoom function. they usually offer the same sensor size, smaller screen, also lack many direct controls for setting iso shutter speed etc. Prosumer/enthousiast camera's are becoming the only reasonable step up from a smartphone. although the definition of "prosumer" is kind of vague. I think entry level dslr's are under that group too. most users wont care much about taking control, they just want better pictures. as for enthusiasts the newer camera's seems to differentiate more and more towards a high end, including a higher price point. here is a list of introduction prices: a6000: 650€ a6300: 1250€ a6500: 1700€ sony a7: 1500€ sony a7II: 1700€ Sony A7s: 2400€ Sony a7sII: 3400€ RX100 Mk1: 650€ RX100 Mk2: 750€ RX100 Mk3: 850€ RX100 Mk4: 1100€ RX100 Mk5: 1200€ And that worries me. enthousiast that are serious about photography (not the Instagram kind) a camera should still be at a acceptable price. I dont think apps are the best way. the way i see it, its a way of asking money for something they shoud be in the camera in the first place. Like the intervalometer in the sony a7.

I Have not sold the lens yet, nobody seems interested. Thats why i've decided to keep it, rather than to sell this lens at a 180€ loss (or more) iIt seems cant edit the orininal post though :/

Hi, I am selling this lens because I made the switch from M43 to Sony FE.I bought the lens a year ago via amazon, there is still 1 year of warranty left. Mechanically and optically the lens is great. The focus ring turns smoothly and is well damped , the F-stop ring clicks normal. The diagraph and autofocus work perfect and silent. The glass is free of fungus or other stuff . There is some dust, and one(just one) microscopic small scratch in the front element (Marked by the red circle on the first image). The outside of the lens is used and looks used, there are a couple of marks on the barrel, also the lenshood doent click (like it used to.) The whole set is complete, i have: The lens itself Decoration ring (to cover up the the flanges of the lenshood) Front and rear caps. Lenshood Rubber piece to cover the lenshood. New this lens costs about 490 euro, I want to sell it for ~315 euro. Price can be negotiated. Item location: Netherlands, and i will ship to Europe. Below are the images, ill include 12MP uncompressed ones here: http://mrc4.nl/afbeeldingen/DSC07682.jpg http://mrc4.nl/afbeeldingen/DSC07683.jpg http://mrc4.nl/afbeeldingen/DSC07685.jpg http://mrc4.nl/afbeeldingen/DSC07686.jpg http://mrc4.nl/afbeeldingen/DSC07687.jpg

I think you have quoted the wrong person, i didn't mention anything about equivalency

8MP is 4k indeed. But if Panasonic wants to do 6k readout, or even 8k(~34MP) in the future,the diffraction starts at f4.5, which is limited. Though looking at the chart again the diffraction is less than I expected, my bad.

Here is a graph a made once on the left there is the pixel size. the dotted lines are the f numbers. 10 um doest leave much room for sharpness (less then 2MP for m43)

I agree that Super 35mm/APS-C is the way to go for 6/8K. Diffraction would kill the sharpness if Panasonic would stay at 4/3. But for me the real question is: will the Super 35mm have a 4:3 aspect ratio, or a more video friendly 3:2 ratio?

Full frame GH5/6? , i dont see that happening. Why? The four thirds mount is too small for full frame sensor, meaning they will need to make a new mount, rendering all other m43/mft mount glass useless. Canon M mount and Sony E mount started with APS-C , but with FF possibilities. Sony took advantage of this, and canon...well we know how "serious" they are about Mirrorless,but its possible for canon to come up with a Full frame Eos M camera. and keep the same mount.If you create a new mount, you need to provide glass, and creating a lens lineup takes time. Panasonic needs to keep developing m43, its has still a lot of gaps to fill. Keeping 2 systems alive is hard. Sony hasn't released a new E mount (=aps-c) lens in years, they want to build upon FE first. (poor A mount)On the other hand, Panasonic needs a bigger sensor, why? 8K. Panasonic says they see a 8K future.To provide that they need a 32MP sensor. Even if it is theoretical possible to cram 32 megapixel on a 43 sensor, there is no resolution befit, because of diffraction. (if you shoot f2.8 and up) The only way out is using super fast glass(while keeping 32MP of sharpness) or increase sensor area. II suspect to see a aps-c GH5/6 camera some day. APS-C does fit, and they can keep their m43 lineup. Its the most sensible option. JVC already has a APS-C m43 video camera.