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Andrew Reid

Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:08 PM

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Scroll down to here for latest update

This is the thread to post your updates related to shipping here. If you get news from a dealer, or if you phone up - let us all know.

My current shipping update

CVP retail unit - no firm date yet. Number 7 in line. Rumoured first batch contains 30 cameras. IBC shipping announcement rumoured from 6th. So hopefully an update on this will come soon.

Blackmagic - Demo units were allocated to beta testers since late August, not for marketing reasons. The beta test program is very small. At my count there are around 10 cameras out there. Major sites such as Gizmodo, Engadget and DPReview are not beta testers so don't have a camera yet.

Joshua Helling (Director of World Wide Support) and John Brawley (main beta tester and DP) said on the 31st August the camera was 'shipping to dealers' but in small quantities. However 1 week later (Sep 5th) no dealer is prepared to give shipping date to customers, or have yet taken delivery of stock.

Blackmagic's CEO Grant Petty says they want to hear beta tester feedback before shipping. As the beta testers only got their cameras at short notice at the end of August it is unlikely this feedback is on Grant's desk yet. It could be that the beta test feedback will be considered before shipping ramps up.

Hopefully dealers are taking the spotlight provided by IBC on the 6th to flick the switch and ship their just-recieved stock to the first customers in line.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:41 PM

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Not much to add but just for completeness...

CVP Retail Unit - No correspondence from them since the email regarding delay due to 'licensing issues' that was quickly refuted by BMD.

Not sure of my place in the queue - possibly not that far behind Andrew - but maybe not early enough to be in the first batch if it is the 30 that is rumoured.

I'll be at IBC so it would be sod's law that they decide to deliver my camera at that time ;)

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 08:39 PM

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Here in Italy various dealers told me the camera will be ready to ship on sept. 15th.
They are also telling me I'd better order it because if I don't it will take a long time before I get one.

Price here is 2999 euro...pretty expensive

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 12:04 AM

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It is officially shipping now but by limited they may mean just to the beta test team, who knows!

http://www.blackmagi...iccinemacamera/

Scroll to the bottom of the page. Blackmagic Cinema Camera = 'Limited shipping'

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 02:11 PM

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Here in Italy they all are pretty sure that who ordered it will get it by the end of september.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 11:10 PM

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Update September 7th...

The camera's production has been hobbled by a parts shortage. Terry from Blackmagic:

"Would love to give dates and a more exact timeline, but right now we can't until we get info on when that slow to arrive component will arrive in bulk. When we know that, we will communicate when we will be shipping in volume right away."

To get an idea of how short supplied it is at the moment, after all that time to ramp up, the biggest dealer in the UK (CVP) got just 1 demo unit, with the rest going to the IBC stand in Amsterdam and 1 more to Jigsaw, another large UK pro video dealer. B&H got between 3 and 8 units according to reports, and they shipped a few to some extremely lucky customers.

I have a trip to the UK planned tomorrow, essentially it was in anticipation of the camera. Now I will be spending time with family before returning to Berlin for just a few days before Photokina begins in Cologne. Then I'll be in Croatia for 2 weeks. So unless Blackmagic can pull a rabbit out of the hat, I'm as fucked as you all are.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 11:22 PM

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I'm leaving italy in october to shoot a documentary in south america and it all was planned because we thought we were going to have 2 black magic cinema cameras with us. So right now I'm pretty damn concerned...hope they find the rabbit and start shipping by the end of september...

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 11:31 PM

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Best of luck Gary. I too planned ahead and took into account a bit of inevitable slippage but it is getting silly now.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 09:43 AM

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yes...a "bit" of slippage...but they are about 4 months late now. They shouldn't say july at first glance, if they said "by the end of the year" nobody would get mad...

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 09:47 AM

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maybe their sensor manufacture said "sorry guys you order too many units , be patient "

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:01 PM

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It's the sensor holding things up? Surely the manufacturers have had enough time to make them. Oh dear, hope there is no jiggery pokery going on.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:30 PM

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I was just talking to a reseller and heard that the first shipment to the United States consisted of only 8 cameras. Apparently they are all coming through a single distributor.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 03:48 PM

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BMC might well be commmiting to MFT mount version hence their hesitence and delay in producing EF mount. The delay may help facilitate those who pre-ordered time to switch their orders to MFT. Rather the delay than risking so many EF mount BMC sitting on the shelves.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 12:15 AM

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Simco123, I don't think the problem is EF mount Blackmagic cameras sitting on the shelf. The problem is how to make enough of them!

Also there's a lot of people with Canon glass who will still be better off with the EF mount. You can't use Canon glass on the MTF version as there's no way to control the aperture.

Unless you count a third party adapter. Birger? Good luck.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:41 PM

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Also there's a lot of people with Canon glass who will still be better off with the EF mount. You can't use Canon glass on the MTF version as there's no way to control the aperture.


That's true, but only because the MFT mount hasn't been properly implemented, I see no reason for it not being active (considering the EF one is) except for it being a rushed decision.
This issue has been pointed out as soon as they first announced the camera, but BMD only realized how serious it might be around release time.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:42 AM

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http://forum.blackma....php?f=2&t=1288

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 12:55 PM

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oops ! bad sensors! I hope they can get this sorted out
I wonder who is making these sensors for them ? they still have not said who it is
speculation is BAE Systems

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 07:50 PM

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I've got deja vu here.

Boss of company appears on message board to belatedly explain delay without really committing to a firm delivery date, throws a bone with some new features that will be included thanks to this delay and everyone thanks him profusely.

RED really did start a revolution didn't it? ;)
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:30 PM

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Nobody here has their camera yet? Looks like I wasn't being pessimistic in my assesment after all.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:41 PM

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Bit weird with this sensor business Almost seems like Sony have been given a chance to catch up.




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