Warner Bros - Netflix vs Trump and Larry Ellison

[Andrew Reid]

My opinion on the buyout of Hollywood by an oligarchy mafia.

https://www.eoshd.com/opinion/warner-bros-risk-talent-exodus-over-trump-ellison-deal-who-will-follow-christopher-nolan-and-jump-ship-next/

[Snowfun]

The line between entertainment and propaganda is shrinking inexorably…

[Andrew Reid]

"The old world is dying, the new world struggles to be born, now is the time for monsters" - Antonio Gramsci, Italy 1930s

[fuzzynormal]

Egalitarianism is a lost cause in the USA.  It would be nice to strive to be on the correct side of that spectrum, as we've done since WWII, but I ain't holding my breath.  We're back to our Gilded Age mode, which I fear is the default.  Maybe with the way info moves these days we'll speed run it and it'll swing back the other way somehow?  Then again, I look at too many of my own family members, see how they think, and just kind of know in my gut that none of this ends well.

[sanveer]

Just curious ... should a sitting US president be openly influencing the fate of an entire industry, for his own or his family's personal gains? Will he push or influence regulators and law makers to cancel the business deals of everyone else? I read a report that a huge number of US Legislators own shares in Tech, Pharma, Defence Companies etc. But even by that standard, this seems to be much. 

[fuzzynormal]

8 minutes ago, sanveer said:

should a sitting US president be openly influencing the fate of an entire industry, for his own or his family's personal gains?

Of course not, but here we are again.

[sanveer]

18 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said:

Of course not, but here we are again.

It's really weird ... 

[eatstoomuchjam]

34 minutes ago, sanveer said:

should a sitting US president be openly influencing the fate of an entire industry, for his own or his family's personal gains?

No, but it turns out that a lot of our guard rails are imaginary.

[zlfan]

larry wants to buy the hollywood? then creates a big ai database like oracle and an universal ai language like java? lol. 

[fuzzynormal]

3 hours ago, sanveer said:

It's really weird

It is and it isn't.  A little history reveals otherwise.  Honestly, humanity's default mode seems to welcome oppression.  And why not?  It's intellectually easy.  Many peoples don't like trying to be more smarter.

[Andrew Reid]

I'm still waiting to hear from the big names about it... Guess we'll have a long wait for that.

I think they're probably more tied up about being bought by a streamer, than they are about being bought by a fascist.

[MrSMW]

[Tim Sewell]

I've been thinking for a while that, internationally, Hollywood is going to get cooked by the 'new' USA. Think how many of the biggest movies over the years have been predicated on the notion that the USA are, once you get down to it, the good guys, the freedom guys, the justice guys - how does that notion survive in a world shown, daily, evidence of resurgent American fascism, cruelty and opression.

Even in those movies where the US state is engaged in bad stuff, the day is saved by upright American patriots (with great teeth) - but IRL, where are those patriots? We're now aware that they're not to be relied upon to do that.

So how does a global cultural hegemony based on an vision of the US as that shining city on the hill survive the revelation that the shine is an illusion (obviously many of us already knew that it was a tortured myth anyway, but the grotesquery is now so pronounced it's unignorable even to the millions of normies who make up the entire international audience for Hollywood's product)?

[ND64]

43 minutes ago, Tim Sewell said:

where are those patriots?

One of them leaked the script of Witkoff's negotiations with the Russian guy. Another one, an admiral, questioned orders and forced to resign. The problem is there won't be enough of them, because unlike Hollywood scenarios, you need more than few heros to save the country from fascists, it needs uprising by millions of people (tho I don't believe these clowns are fascist. They're too dumb to stick with a particular ideology).

[Andrew Reid]

I don’t agree that that it needs normal people in their millions to rise up, it needs the elites to turn on Trump… Military leaders, CEOs, celebrities. 
World leaders.

Instead, 99% of them they have licked his ass and appeased him

[MrSMW]

18 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Instead, 99% of them they have licked his ass and appeased him

Same thing happened with Hitler.

In the earlier years, because they wanted a piece of that action for themselves and a seat at the table.

In later years, because the alternative was death.

The latter may not be the case here, - instead you just lose your invitation to the big feast, but the former is almost certain.

And I kind of get it, but then living in a dog eat dog world is nothing  new.

What is the answer?

There isn’t one other than live your own life as best you can because we live in an increasingly weary and apathetic society and attempting to ‘do the right thing’ based on principle, usually leads to self-destruction.

My mother is a crusader. Unfortunately she has forgotten her history lesson and fighting every tiny and often inconsequential battle has lead to her poor mental and physical health.

I don’t say turn a blind eye, but rather don’t get into a fight you have zero chance of winning.

Anyway, so the announcement I received a few days ago from Netflix was a bit premature then huh?!

[fuzzynormal]

7 hours ago, Tim Sewell said:

movies over the years have been predicated on the notion that the USA are, once you get down to it, the good guys, the freedom guys, the justice guys 

And even more than that, stories typically rely on characters almost always being portrayed as somewhat competent, even if they're nefarious. Which I always find amusing because we should all know that's one hell of a myth.