Nikon Zr is coming

[ArashM]

True, however I know several people personally who have bounced out of the ZR due to the same issue.

My local dealer was mentioning that several ZRs are being traded in for the FX5.

I know a fix is coming, but I'm afraid it will come when it's no longer relevant in the market!

[eatstoomuchjam]

As a person who is waiting for used ZR prices to drop a bit more before picking one up, this all sounds good to me.  😅

[Ilkka Nissila]

5 hours ago, ArashM said:

True, however I know several people personally who have bounced out of the ZR due to the same issue.

My local dealer was mentioning that several ZRs are being traded in for the FX5.

I know a fix is coming, but I'm afraid it will come when it's no longer relevant in the market!

The FX5 is 5599€ here, the ZR is 2449€. I think most customers understand the ZR is not meant to be an FX3 or FX5 at half price.

[mercer]

Honestly, I am a little confused. Why buy the ZR if you want an h.265 codec camera?

The ZR will probably be my next camera purchase but I am buying it for the RedCode Raw/n-raw and 32bit float audio. I wish there were better 4K raw options but that doesn't exist so I'm going to deal with it, I won't buy it and then say... Nikon needs to fix the lack of 4K raw options in the camera that I already knew didn't have good 4K raw options.

If I decide to shoot 4K for "lesser" projects, I'll just use the ProResHQ with n-log or even Nikon Flat for certain things. 
 

I don't mean to be rude, but there are so many cameras on the market that shoot great full frame h.265. Raw video isn't for everybody, nor should it be.

[ArashM]

5 hours ago, mercer said:

Honestly, I am a little confused. Why buy the ZR if you want an h.265 codec camera?

The ZR will probably be my next camera purchase but I am buying it for the RedCode Raw/n-raw and 32bit float audio. I wish there were better 4K raw options but that doesn't exist so I'm going to deal with it, I won't buy it and then say... Nikon needs to fix the lack of 4K raw options in the camera that I already knew didn't have good 4K raw options.

If I decide to shoot 4K for "lesser" projects, I'll just use the ProResHQ with n-log or even Nikon Flat for certain things. 
 

I don't mean to be rude, but there are so many cameras on the market that shoot great full frame h.265. Raw video isn't for everybody, nor should it be.

Hi, you are not being rude at all 🙂 happy to have a convo as we all use our gear differently.

Unfortunately where I failed was assuming the H265 was normal, at the time of purchase it seemed like a perfect camera for most projects where for higher end stuff you could shoot red code and for more lower-end project (talking heads/ social content) you could shoot H265. 

The 2 surprises once we started shooting with it was just how massive the red code is compared to other red cameras (we also have other reds with other DOPs on projects) and how unusable the H265 is 

So camera was sold and we're back to using Lumix's / Sony FX for lower end projects and Pyxis 12/Komodo for higher end projects.

This is just my use case in my little world..... I know we all have different wants and needs 🙂 

[MrSMW]

I’ve come close to pushing the ZR button a few times now and there are really only 3 things that have prevented me doing so…

1. The file sizes of that Red Raw codec. Apparently N raw is the next best option and there are of course some ‘workarounds’, but until there is a compressed version that maxes out at no more than 1000 mbps, it’s just too much and one of the principal draws of this camera is the Red codec.

2. I’m not unhappy with L Mount. In fact the opposite except for one factor and that is the absence IMO of equivalent lenses to Sony’s: 28-70 f2, 50-150 f2 and Tamron’s 35-100 f2.8. It’s ‘almost’ worth switching just for these lenses alone, but that last word, ‘alone’, but alone is not enough and lenses aside, everything else that L Mount, specifically Lumix offers, beats that of Nikon & Sony.

3. I still have hope that from within the L Mount Alliance, over the coming Winter and next Spring, either (or even both) a rangefinderesque camera will appear from either Lumix or Sigma and at least one rival for one of the lenses above, will appear. Unlikely to be a Leica, but next gen FP a possibility and even more likely, an S9ii?

4. Bonus reason, - switching not only costs money, but there is always a settling in period with any new system that frustrates.

So my set up now just works, I have it and I like it and as above, my only real crit is with regard to certain lenses, but the ZR body style just appeals to me and I would like that rear LCD, but ideally as a fully articulated unit which is a bit of a missed opportunity IMO.

[Emanuel]

Same here :- )