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maybe things are a little different for me as I have both ADHD and ASD so my brain sees details rather then summaries.
Lot's of Macro photographers tend to be on the Autism Spectrum for this reason.
Probably why so many people got confused with what I'm trying to achieve, as sadly communication is different too as there are subtleties.
 
I'm kind of leaning towards the R5C at this point but a little lost over the lens lineup. I wrote above what my thoughts are as I want to cover my bases and not leave anything out since at this point I don't have any experience as I've never done anything like this before. So what focal lengths will I need? Time will tell basically.....
 
Sure for stills currently based on what is available where I live; I use the 15-30mm Pentax and 150mm Irix, the 200-500 f5.6 Nikkor, and Sigma 105mm - though prior to the 15-30mm I used the Samyang 24mm F1.4 which got crazy internal reflections at brilliant points of light.
 
Just checking the Canon website I can see a CN-18-80mm and 70-200mm which probably would cover me on all bases but sadly these are Super 35mm E-mount lenses, so not even full frame.
Something like the RF 24-240mm would be ideal as a one-stop-shop for a lens but I made that mistake with my Nikon already in the 18-300mm DX. It's awful and heavily compromised for my liking. Good for "snaps" though, great recon lens :-S
 
I guess I made my decision on camera body, now for the lenses....??
 

Right.  These days, you can pick one of Sony, Canon, Nikon, and Panasonic (and arguably, Fuji) and have everything you need.  Beyond that, you're really just micro-optimizing in ways that are less meaningful than you might think.  Most of them just take turns buying the same Sony sensors anyway.
Each has some things that they do better than the others - and if you change your mind later about the things that are important, you could certainly regret it.  But at some point, obsession over small differences between systems will lead to making a YouTube channel with a theme song about "All I want is the perfect camera, all I want is the perfect ca-me-ra..."
(FWIW, Kasey is borderline convinced for the time being that his R5 II is the closest thing to a perfect camera and he also likes taking photo/videos of birds/squirrels in his local area).
Am I actually suggesting that someone watch Camera Conspiracies for actual information about buying cameras for their use case?  I can't believe I'm saying this, but...  maybe I am.
 

What is your planned presentation/use for these photos?  One of the not-so-secret secrets of wildlife photography is that the photos are rarely presented as-framed in camera.  The D500 has 20 megapixels which gives you a bit of room to crop in if your presentation is going to be social media or embedded in a 4k video.
The Z8 and R5C are both 45 megapixel sensors - so you'll be able to crop in even more than on the D500.  An 800mm lens won't be meaningfully different in FOV on FF than your 500mm was on APS-C, though.  You mention the built-in TC on the 200-800, but there's nothing stopping you from going out and getting a 1.4x TC for the lens that you have now...  or a 2x, but on modern very high resolution sensors, I've never seen a 2x TC that looked better than just cropping.
If you don't want to crop or if you want to shoot 4K for presentation at 4K, you really should be looking at APS-C or M43 cameras.  Bonus, you can also still use a TC.

That all depends - if you have a 61 megapixel FF sensor, the only real benefit to it is the ability to crop in.  Much heavier glass is also subjective - I kind of love the Canon RF 800mm f/11.  It's obviously very limiting to have a fixed f/11 aperture, but the lens is otherwise a decent performer and not that different from using a 400mm lens at f/5.6 on M43.
I would say, though, that stabilization is huge at such long focal lengths - and that might be a reason to consider a Panasonic body and Panasonic lens since their hybrid IS is by far the best.  I don't have much problem getting sharp photos on the R5 with the 800/11 since whatever mix of IS is used works pretty well - but I also only use it in fairly bright areas and I don't mind bumping up the ISO a little bit.

£1299 in the UK.
$1299 would be the original US pricing without Trump's madness.
So the tariffs are adding $400 onto a $1299 camera body. All of it into the pockets of a fascist administration rather than a nice Japanese camera company, too.
Ouch.

I think it’s great.
Another camera that could have been great but isn’t so I have utterly zero interest in and therefore will not be spending any money on.
Keep it up camera industry, you are doing good and keeping my money firmly in my bank account 🫡

Nikon F with full as native like electronic control is the big one for me.
FujiFilm X mount is also available now with full electronic control. Limited to APS-C by the nature of the lenses of course.
Dumb mount MFT is also available. Again, limited image coverage but OK up to APS-C as most of the MFT lenses you'd want to use offer that wider coverage.
In theory, there is enough space for someone to do a Hasselblad XCD adapter but no one has actually done it as far as i'm aware.
There are a couple of other interesting ones between the Z and the RF as well, most notably Canon's own EF-M and of course the RF mount itself !

Are they Sony lenses?  Or are you including things like the autofocus adapter for M mount?  Which other lenses can be adapted to Z mount that can't be adapted to R?

I'm not aware of any existing generative AI model that could be even remotely considered to be ethical in its construction and any of use of the generated results should be considered generally unethical.  Any use of Generative AI is using an unprecedented amount of stolen material.
The AI companies even admit as much, saying that being obliged to require permission from the rights holders to use their existing content would be fatal to their business model.
It's like a thief saying that the invention of locked doors presented an existential threat to their business model.
 
And keep in mind that the end game for most/all of these AI companies is not to make your life better unless you are one of the huge businesses that are financing their development or a totalitarian government.

I hope the author receives just compensation for their idea!
 

I think you might need to seek professional help before you go shoot up a pizza restaurant (which doesn't even have a basement).
The AltCine people took their camera out and saw a neat-looking building and filmed it.  To demonstrate detail, they zoomed in on a thing that has diagonal and curved lines that show aliasing.
Please don't turn a camera discussion site into some bullshit about freemason conspiracy theories.

The one we know is the other one, but OK thanks for your heads-up! : ) We have another case very likely then... This is a plague. 
I have nothing against technology but those people who tend to take advantage from illegitimate access? We're obviously talking about something else in fact...
On that case, we're studying right now a legal action based on copyright claim. Now you've brought another case. I've just notified the author on your finding.

Right.  That's what I'm saying - the plot is nearly the same as your friend's.
"Chichi (Sienna Stevens) writes a letter to Santa Claus for Christmas but accidentally misspells Santa's name. This leads to the letter finding its way to Satan (Paolo Contis), who answers to the girl's wishes. Satan attempts to tempt Chichi to evil, but the girl's virtues resists the demon's plans and changes him instead."
Yes, and a number of those evil assholes own the companies that make large language models. 

Are you saying that you trained an LLM entirely on things where you owned the copyright and all other appropriate rights?  If so, that's cool and ethical.
On the other hand, if you're saying that you used one of the existing LLM's that were made by OpenAI/Google/HuggingFace/etc, then you're not using your own stuff.  You're using a tool that could not exist without massive copyright theft on a previously unprecedented scale.
The part that's black and white to me is silicon valley buttholes who have admitted that their business model cannot possibly function without stealing content.  I've heard that some people (Getty images, maybe?) are allowing people to opt in to AI training for some compensation.  I think those people will be short sighted and a bit foolish, but the resulting AI would be, in my opinion, fully ethical.
Maybe I'll go ask AI how to make my dick bigger than everyone's.
That is also very bad.  But "Hollywood also steals things" is a kind of a terrible justification for "AI companies steal things."  Was your friend's script the one that was used for the Filipino film that google tells me also exists with that name that was made by Mavx productions?  If not, it seems like the Phillipines also stole from your friend (and that's also bad).  But also, knowing that the other exists makes me want to intentionally not see the Hollywood release and go see the other one, at least partly because I don't like supporting that kind of theft.
The phrase doesn't make a lot of sense in English so I don't think you'll have to worry too much about it being stolen.  Did you mean something like "Where people present things with good will, a thief finds victims?"
 

If you think that it is unethical to copy a commercial movie and personally sell those copies without the permission of the movie's owner, then it's hard to imagine how it could be ethical to use that same movie to train a model that is then sold without the permission of that movie's owner.

There's a pretty big difference between one person stealing a screenplay or synopsis, and scraping the entire internet to make a generalized tool that billions of people use daily. Both can be unethical, but it's a few orders of magnitude difference in how many people it harms and to what degree.
I believe that we should create technology for its own sake. I don't want to halt AI progress. There just needs to be a way to ensure that it benefits all people, particularly the people who (unwillingly/unknowingly) contributed to creating the models.

I don’t know how you can say that with a straight face.
The BFI have just published a report saying that 130,000 films and scripts have been used without permission or accreditation.
It is all about violating copyright.

 
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/09/ai-plundering-scripts-poses-direct-threat-to-uk-screen-sector-says-bfi

hmm to be fair this theory of “everyone who is involved and interested in this clearly terrible product is a pedophile” makes more sense than anything i can come up with

Joking about ponies aside, the line can be a bit fuzzy sometimes.  Does the Osmo Pocket 3 count as an action camera?  There's some crossover in that use and using it for filmmaking.  The RX0 uses the same sensor as the RX100 V and a 24mm equivalent rectilinear lens.  The Insta360 One R 1" edition has a sensor of the same size and also has a 24mm rectlinear lens.
Obviously we're not dumb and can easily tell an action camera from a non-action camera so I'm not trying to make that case - just making the point that as the years go on, they're increasingly capable filmmaking tools and increasingly useful to have on set.

The Alt Cine folks have been posting on the cinepi boards for the last little bit that they are building some cameras around cinepi with some software tweaks/additions/add-ons. 
Today, they announced them - all based around a super 16 Starvis sensor.
Looks like they can record raw up to 4Kp60 in 12-bit readout, 4Kp30 in 16-bit readout, and 1080p90 in 12-bit.
Media is cf express type b.
Interface is 4" touch screen.
 
"Eve" has a c mount and is the most affordable option, battery mount is swappable, they mentioned np-f or v-mount, though it seems like the mount is non-integrated so power will be by dc barrel only - sells for about 450-480 GBP and you need to BYO Raspberry Pi 5 (8GB)
"Elite 16" has similar specs to Eve, but a nicer/more robust body (which fits the Kondor Blue V-Raptor cage) with better I/O and has integrated v-mount as well as the DC barrel.  It has a Micro 4/3 mount which may or may not be electronic depending on licensing - sells for about 950 GBP and includes Raspberry Pi 5
 
The footage looks pretty nice (with the caveat that they're still tweaking the output).  Once they're a little further along, if things are looking good, I'll probably pick up the Eve.  Could be a fun camera to use with my old Super 16 lenses.  The price of the Elite 16 is, I think, a good reflection of the time and effort they put into it, but for me, the body size and cost are a bit more than I'd be excited to pay for a super 16 setup.
 
 
 

New details dropping today:
https://petapixel.com/2025/06/04/gfx-eterna-sensor-formats-film-simulations-and-more-revealed/
- Will include OLPF
- Adds readout modes including 3840x2880 full sensor open gate (up to48fps), additional anamorphic ff modes, and super35 modes up to 6k.  PP also lists the 5.8k 2.39:1 full sensor width mode as new, but that exists on the GFX 100 II already.
- Codecs seem to match GFX 100 II 
- Supports 3D LUT
- Film simulations which seem mostly to match GFX 100 II
- Custom frame guides
- Remote control of multiple cameras
- Bluetooth LE support for some accessories
- Monitor will be a 5 inch 16:9 panel with 6.22 million dots and a max brightness of 2000 nits, onboard display is a 3 inch 3:2 panel with 1.04 million dots and 700 nit max brightness

For me, it's not differentiating very strongly from the GFX 100 II yet.  Maybe the next tranche of information will distinguish it more.  Otherwise, it's hard to see why I wouldn't just put a cage on my GFX 100 II, put in a dummy battery, and get 90% of the same camera - and a super portable stills camera otherwise.  OLPF could be nice for video, sure, but almost definitely not nice enough to make up the difference in cost.  I can say with some certainty that Super 35 modes are not the thing that would sell a GF Eterna cinema camera to me.  🤣

I think you might need to seek professional help before you go shoot up a pizza restaurant (which doesn't even have a basement).
The AltCine people took their camera out and saw a neat-looking building and filmed it.  To demonstrate detail, they zoomed in on a thing that has diagonal and curved lines that show aliasing.
Please don't turn a camera discussion site into some bullshit about freemason conspiracy theories.