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A bit off topic but : this remind me of "our planet" that I finished to watch some days ago. In the BTS episode, especially the Siberian Tiger sequence, I was intrigued by something concerning the camera traps that filmed the sequences that ended in the episode "forests". Yes, they used GH4's : https://www.tshed.co.uk/2019/04/netflix-our-planet-siberian-tigers-filmed-with-the-tshed-4k-trail-camera-system/ Seeing that among cinema cameras (saw some Red), and given how this sequence captured by the Gh4's render well, it made me thinking a lot 😄

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-52058788 Given everything Boris said, is that what we call a Karma Instant ??? (joking of course, don't want to wish someone bad things... but as I am infected too and in quarantine at home, made me a bit smile !)

I would have gladly invited you at home, in the French Alps, but...even here, I am in a quarantine in the quarantine, as I am highly suspected to be infected...😑

Yeah right ! Louis Pasteur, Edward Jenner, Hiro & Tasaka, Von Behring, Shibasaburo Kitasato, Albert Calmette, Camille Guerin, Charles Nicolle, Vieusseux, Guy Henry Faget, Jules Bordet, Octave Gengou, Michiaki Takahashi... those good ol' Yankees from Merica !

Thank you Chris ! I thought about the A73 and the new 200-600 (crazy lens !), but I couldn't resist the construction, video options, amazing ibis etc. I will find a small and not too expensive companion to my S1, only dedicated to long reach and wildlife, even if it wont challenge the Sony AF. Yes, I came across some wonderful images with the combo ! But the most impressive stuff I have seen is from a guy using GH5 and GH5s + adapted tamron 150-600 g2 and canon 500 f4 : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZA1bwRJaqneQAc7jT27kDg/videos The last one with the bear, and the one with the great grey owl are wonderful ! Oh very nice, you are lucky, I would like to explore Greenland too ! Yes, I used the camera with two layers gloves : next to skin thin wool gloves and thicker mittens that opens to free your fingers. I also wore an outer shell with gore-tex mittens, but I always removed them to use the camera. What I often did during high winds and cold is open one mitten to free my fingers, while just opening the end of my thumb on the other hand. If I took photos, the right fingers were free, to press the shutter and play with the joystick, and the left thumb open (or not if very windy) to help zooming with the lens ; for video, it was the opposite : free left fingers to help zooming and focusing, and just the right thumb to lay on the area dedicated to hold the camera (not sure if i am very clear...). In both cases, it worked well. At night, during aurora sessions, I mostly wore all my layers thus, once focused and framed, I just had to quickly free one hand if needed. I believe this is the positive side of having such a big camera with great ergonomics. Concerning the batteries, I brought 5 of them + 4 powerbanks (yes, the panasonic batteries are 3500mah if I remember, so very power hungry !) that we shared with my wife (who used a panasonic LX100 for video and a nikon d7200 for photos) : 1 ravpower 26800 mah Power Delivery usb C, and 3 "small" ravpower 16000 mah. As I brought the panasonic battery charger (USB C), I could charge directly in camera + simultaneously via the charger. The charger check the humidity rate and air temperature, so I struggled sometimes to charge batteries inside the tent (it refused to charge : the leds blink to let you know) ; in that case, I hide the charger + powerbank inside the down sleeping bag ! Battery life was better than what I expected, but , as usual, they drained quickly during the cold days, especially as I relied mostly on IBIS and avoided the tripod during the day walks ! The ravpower 26800 suffered a lot from the cold, despite keeping it warm inside the sleeping bag. To give you and idea, we where 15 days in the mountains the first half of the trip, mostly off trails, in "remote" valleys, so no possibility to charge anything. Having 5 batteries worked quite well, and allowed me to avoid charging them a lot. Good to hear ! The 15-30 route sounds good, so that you will be able to share it with your FS5 or anything else. This is one of the reason I will sell my sigma 14-24 : too much specialized and not sharable with what I want to buy...

The thread is sleeping, so I thought about sharing updates after having used the S1 for a month (and the newly announced firmware updates are a good occasion for that !). So I used the S1 during a 1 month arctic journey across northern Swedish mountains and Norway in last September/October. I only took the S1, for photo and video, and brought with me the 24-105 f4 kit lens and the Sigma 14-24 2.8 dg dn (the new one, designed for mirrorless) which I brought 3 weeks before I left home. I wanted to film (not doing time lapse) the northern lights, but we were not very lucky with the intensity of lady aurora, despite one or two explosions in the sky, and the f2.8 aperture of the sigma was not enough. I will soon sell the Sigma and buy a 20 1.4 Sigma art, and maybe wait for the newly announced pana 16-35 f4... (or a used canon 16-35 f4). I was a bit frustrated with longer reach need, because, when I bought the S1, I thought the ex.tele converter worked the same as on Sony (clear zoom if I remember) and on the GH5 and G9. So I did not bring any tele for this trip (despite still having at home a Canon 200 f2.8 L ii prime at that time), hoping to film with the 24-105 at 105mm in apsc mode + exteleconv. Some days before leaving home, I discovered that it does not work in 4k… So on 1 or 2 occasions, to film wildlife or distant landscape, I used 1080, and pixel/pixel mode. I checked the results at home on my computer, and the results are really really awful eheh ! APSC mode is, on the other hand, really good ; so, in the end, I had a little reach on some occasions. I really love the range of the 24-105, and find it very useful. Fot this kind of trip, it is perfect ; maybe the newly announced (yeah, so much "newly announced" today !) Sigma art 24-70 f2.8 dg dn will be better, I'll keep a close eye on it. The Sigma 14-24 f28 dg dn is a wonderful lens for photos, sharp enough for me in the corner, light etc. But the inability to put a vari nd on it was useless for video. I bought it for nighttime auroras filming, but a 20 1.4 + a wide zoom that takes filters will serve me better. I encountered minor bugs : occasionally, when I pressed the review button to check my images, it said "no valid pictures on card". Had to turn off the camera and I could access again my images. I had 1 or 2 freezes (really less than my fujis that used to freeze very very often) too. Ah, and the camera is slooooooooow to operate. Drives me crazy when in a rush ! All in all, it worked very well, even during snow storms and -10°C temperatures, and was covered with ice and used under rain with no problems. The handling and controls are phenomenal, especially in shitty conditions. So far, I only reviewed my footage on my computer since I came back home, and I barely touched the camera again (little time) but I managed to play with some clips. The Vlog shots are gorgeous... really ! I tried to play with them with filmconvert nitrate and varicam profile (I need to try the """newly announced""" ? S1 profiles), and with the varicam luts supplied by panasonic, and I love everything about it : colors, look... I think i prefer the result I obtain by applying Resolve's color space transform to the vlog clip, and then tweaking it to taste. I am still learning and, thus, is a horrible color corrector, but with minor stuff applied, I obtain a really pleasing result. I also filmed a lot with Cine-d and HLG. The former seems to be very good, and the latter... I still did not figure out how to treat it in Resolve eheh. I wish I had more time to learn the camera prior to departure, because I played with the flat profile last week-end, and I really like it too. One thing I instantly noticed is the iso capabilities : amazing ! I sadly found some missed focus shots while reviewing my clips. More than I wanted... I mainly used MF, but with a lot of "AF first then switch to MF", and maybe the struggling AF in low contrast scene + not always easy to check the focus peaking in bad weather conditions + my poor fillmmaking skills are to blame. On the still side, not a lot of things to say : wonderful high iso performance, very flexible files... everything you want from a modern 24mp sensor. A great machine for my use : landscape, documentary, astro photo... Sorry for the very unprofessional review ahah, hope some of you will find something useful. I attach just for the fun an image I took inside the tent, after a short night (I still have to post process my photos). Don't pay attention to the "clean" appearance of the camera... I was always wiping it, as it was often covered with snow and rain ? I will sell my Sigma 14-24 2.8 and, in the future, I will slowly build a kit with a wide angle prime, lenses like the samyang 135 f2, takumar 50 1.4, and maybe the coming panasonic S lenses... But for now, I will add the smallrig cage for the S1 + a cheap 5.5" monitor, and I think about buying a Panasonic G9 + pana leica 200 f2.8 + tc (unbelievable sales + cashback right now) . It will allow me to "deport" the long reach video and photo use to this setup. @omega1978 sorry, I promised you to take sample images with the sigma 14-24, but I did not find time to do it before leaving. Did you put your hands on it ??

Wow, I was looking for a second camera to pair with my S1, especially for wildlife photos and videos, as the adapted long lenses via MC-21 are not very useful and L-mount long lenses are not there yet. I thought about buying a canon mount lens (canon 100-400, 400 f5.6 prime, sigma 150-600 or 100-400...) plus a GH5 or Canon 90D and share the lens with the S1... But this announcement changes everything ! With Panasonic cashback and sales, I can buy a G9 and a panasonic leica 200mm F2.8 + tc, for around 1700€ !! Quite crazy... I may take that route and have this awesome lens constantly glued on the G9 ! (No @Andrew Reid, I am not a "wild boar pig lovers" ? , and yes, I will remember for long these one ahah).

Thank you for sharing, this is beautiful ! Could you share some advice on how you exposed VLOG (zebra etc.) ? Thanks !

Hi everyone ! I wonder which profil you would use for very lowlight situations (in fact, night shot of northern lights, between iso 12800 and 51200) ? CineD seems to be quite good in lowlight. Right now I'm trying HLG, an I will compare it to CineD. I have never played too much with LOG, so S1 + VLOG is my big first. I already understand that I won't use it in lowlight (I tried, to test ? ). Ah sorry, I do not have the opportunity to do that. I'll share some stills this week-end, maybe it wilk help you.

Found a "week-end" deal on one of the biggest French store : starting price was around 1500€, and I paid around 1300€ ! Considering that I firstly bought 2 wide angle prime lenses to try with the S1, in EF mount + sigma MC21 adapter, the total price was around 1100€... I immediately returned them, as with the Sigma I got a lighter setup, no adapter, weather-sealing, and better performance than those 2 primes !

Yes sure, I will try tomorrow ! Did not have time to really test the lens yet (more than a hands on try), but, judging by what I see on the lcd screen, it indeed seems to be quite awesome. Can't wait to try it thinking I am Lubezki (before reviewing my footage ahah) ? !

Just took delivery of this(brand new Sigma 14-24 f2.8 for l-mount). I needed a convenient wide angle for landscape, astro and aurora photo, and wild field "documentary" plan for video. The growing thread (for the Sony mount version) on the fredmiranda forum suggests this is one of the most spectacular wide angle lens. Some guys compare it to their Zeiss prime, others ditch their Sony G. Can't wait to try it. Oh, and "only", 795gr... well balanced with the S1.

OK, I received my VLOG yesterday and just installed it (it took 2 weeks for the process, from the day I filled the form to yesterday ; in France, Panasonic directly send you the box) . And, to make things more fun, I had an issue ahah ? I was testing different modes in my apartment, to check if my Sandisk 95MB could handle everything : 4k24, 30, 60 etc. While filming inside with no issue, I pointed the camera outside, through my windows and, suddenly, the screen went crazy as in the attached image ! I changed the wheel mode to A or P and tried a photo, and it was the same + lag and freezes. I turned the camera off, and now it seems OK. I found another one with, I believe, a close issue : https://***URL removed***/forums/thread/4418385 I did not format the card after the update process, maybe it could be related... I will be cautious and watch out if it reappears ! Anyway, happy to finally having installed it ! First time I use vector scopes for recording, and I love it ! Edit : grammar and orthography to prevent your eyes from bleeding too much !

Thank you ! Yes, I am gonna contact Sigma !

@funkyou86 and other MC21 owners : could you check your electronic contactors of your EF lenses you use with the adapter please ? I posted some days ago in the "lenses" thread, because my lenses got damaged. I believe it comes from the MC21 adapter ; mine may be defective...

Yes, I did not mention it, because it is not available in 4K ("When the following functions are being used, [PIXEL/PIXEL] is not available:– 4K Video– [High Speed Video]"). So, I wonder if it wouldn't be the same to record in 4K crop mode, and then crop again while editing. I will try that !

Right, ExTeleconv doesn't work in video. You can read it in the manual, page 122, the icon "video" is greyed : https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/dscoi/DC-S1/P_PP/DC-S1_DVQP1869ZB_full_web_eng.pdf @Parker is right, you can set a crop mode, but the Ex. tele Conv, as in the GH5/G9 and Sony cameras doesn't work in video. It is really a big downside for me, as it was a strong selling point when I bought it, and I think I read the manual too quickly ? I wanted to use small and lightweight tele lenses, like the Canon 200 f2.8 or Samyang 135f2 (or zooms like the Sigma 100-400) and, by combining crop mode + ext tele conv, almost reach 400mm, with the brilliant IBIS.... I hope for a future firmware update to change that.

Yes you are right, the prices of the lenses are crazy ! Also, I did not know for US prices ; now I understand. But, still, for me, as I am using Canon adapted lenses, Samyang MF, and I am waiting for the native Sigma L-mount, I did not take into account the price of those golden pany lenses. Yesterday, I tested AF with the 24-105 native lens, and it works just as it worked on my Z6 + 24-70s (But I have a very limited usage for AF, I understand that Vloggers etc. find its AF crappy). I really think the last firmware changed things for the good. I also tested eyes detection, and it seems quite OK for me. Of course, those were not torture tests ? But for a slow documentary style, narrative etc. it will be enough for me.

I read a lot about the pricing strategy of Panasonic, but isn't it related to the S1R which, if I am not wrong, is badly positioned price wise, regarding the A7iii or the Z7 ? Because here, in France, the S1 with the "kit" lens is cheaper than both the A7 iii and Esor R with their respective 24-105 (around 100€ less vs canon, and 150€ for Sony). The price was always around this since the beginning (and we had rebates for the 3 cameras). It may be the different in other countries, but here, at least, pricing is OK I believe.

Oh wow thank you, did not know this one even exists ! I had the 12 f2 on APSC, 14 f2.8 on FF and I tried the 20 1.8 FF, but 16 T2.6 FF could be the perfect balance. Very tempting. Unfortunately, I can't find a lot of reviews. Also, I was checking reviews concerning the 135 f2 and... what a lens ; they hit a home run with this one. Great for portrait, awesome for astrophoto. The Haida VariND I bought is named "haida proii-s mc variable nd". If I remember, I got it from ebay, as I couldn't find it in stock in "regular" shops. I believe this is it : https://www.amazon.fr/Haida-PROII-S-Filtre-variable-ND9-ND1000/dp/B00GUOPM26/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=haida+proii-s+mc+variable+nd&qid=1566116628&s=electronics&sr=1-2 When I bought it, raving reviews were everywhere, like the new Samyang of the filters world ! I also bought 3 filters from Haida (the same class if I remember well), but non-VariND ones as I wanted them for stills only. Edit : just took an image of it

Yes I noticed that to. It takes a certain amount of time to write after a long burst (But I don't machine gun shoot, so it's OK!).

Still waiting for mine to be delivered. I received a mail from Panasonic France on august 9th, saying I will receive it in a week (so I hope I will have it on Monday or Tuesday). But i believe the delivering method is country dependent. I tried a Samyang 20 1.8 with MC21, and it was great. I returned it, because I want larger field of view, and I will order the 14 f2.8 next week (want this sigma 14 1.8... but my wallet and backpack don't). I also got an Haida VariND (love it !) ! I have the 24-105 L "kit lens". Of course, not a character lens, nor extremely bright, but so useful range and unbelievable dual IS. I just tried the LINEAR focus mode with this lens. First time for me, and it is just wonderful. You can quickly change the focus adjustment range from 90° to 360°. I leave it on 150° and adjust when I need to have more or less range. I am still discovering the camera (more on the still side for the moment), but I really love it. Also, concerning cards, it seems to work well with my "old" Sandisk pro 95Mb/s ; I tried 4k 24 and 4k60, and I faced no problem. I hope it will be the same with the Vlog upgrade (I believe @Lars Steenhoff confirmed that), so it won't be an expensive cards eating machine. I may order a Lexar v60 to try.

Hi all, I just noticed a little thing and I would like your advice (yeah, I just need to be reassured, I guess ?). I checked the mount of my new Canon 200 f2.8 ii L, that I use with my S1 and Sigma MC21 adapter, and I noticed a contactor is a little damage. There is a small plastic "ramp" in front of a contactor on the lens, that seems to guide the pins on the adapter side. It seems the pins have "dig" a bit in this ramp, to make their way, and scratch the contactor. I noticed this because I wanted to try an Irix 15mm lens, and I couldn't fully mount it (I did not try to force). By inspecting the Irix mount, the same plastic ramp was really damaged, even more than the Canon. Plus, there was a small golden debris lying around, indicating that the irix contactor has just been "dug". I then tried to mount again the Canon 200mm, and everything is fine, no debris, no further digging etc. I also use a Samyang 20mm without electronic contactor, and, of course, no problem ! I have used the Canon for a week, and it works with no problem. Have you ever seen something like that, and do you think it would worsen with time, or lead to "contact" problems ? I suspect the mount tolerance is designed for Sigma lenses, and it may differ a bit from Regular Canon or other manufacturers... ? Thank you ! Ps : this is a macro image... in reality, it is really less evident.

Quite proud of mine ! I OK I am cheating, but I use it as my alarm clock ?

Yes, I find flying circus to be an inextinguishable source of relief for the occasional "troubles" of daily life ?