SRV1981

1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

That guy…

He only regurgitates rumors he gets from other rumor places which get theirs from…??

Zero actual sources as far as I am aware.

I’d take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Some rumors just by chance or even logic will be right, so odds are, sometimes these folks are right. But still just speculation normally…

Agreed. Whatever the part of the brain is that makes us ruminate on things we’re interested in is a helluva piece of biology.  When I’m bored i gravitate toward this as im highly curious about the a7C II. 

As a non-pro im happy with my iPhone and Ricoh griiix for travel and family. But I’d like to have a second higher end kit to shoot my athletes running (video and photo) make educational documentaries and travel vids that have a “cinematic” look.   Internal LUTs are a big selling point to me as well as compact, great AF, and doesn’t easily overheat in my use cases.  Im done with Fuji till AF is as good as Panasonic or better.  Panasonics s5ii fits the bill but the system bill may deter me from using it so that leaves the r7/8, a6700/fx30, a7cII. Once released, I’ll be able to figure out if im going to have a higher end kit comprising 1 hybrid camera or a kit comprised of fx30 for video and a used a7C or a6600 for action photo and travel. Being an over thinker and ruminator I feel I’m in some good company here!

46 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

BIG difference though between air temperature indoors and direct sunlight at the same air temp outdoors.

But otherwise might be something in their small sensor size?

I don't have a dog in the race or whatever they say, but my old Sony RX100v used to cook pretty quickly!

The fact that I’ve been dedicated that S5II has unreal fan/cooking means, to me, any manufacturer not doing it just doesn’t care because it can be done and at a reasonable cost. 

13 hours ago, kye said:

In theory, yes, these things are all true, but not for this camera.

Here's the video posted earlier by @SRV1981...  check out the outside testing.

In case you don't want to watch a couple of minutes of video, here's the results:

• Tested in North Carolina in mid-morning 80F and humid, in direct sun
• Tested from cold in AC all night
• Tested in 4K XAVCS, auto temp set to high, screen open
• Tested at 24p
• Overheated in 22 minutes

Let me summarise: camera is not reliable.  Will it work for some people in some conditions?  Sure.  Will it work for you?  No way to tell.

There's no way I'd buy a camera like this, because you would have to know you can't record with it in the sun (even at indoor temps!), or in a hot building, or at 60p, etc etc

Sadly I agree. If it could record 1 hour plus in any environment then it’s not reliable 

https://youtu.be/WNA683qovlY

my man says 1 hour plus for 24p and 37 minutes for 60p on both cameras 

So the a7cII amirite?! 😂 

6 hours ago, kye said:

Perfect for the Scandinavian market!

😝 

4 hours ago, MrSMW said:

If it's any consolation folks, I suspect in the not too distant future, many of those YouTuber's are going to feel some heat themselves...

I think it's a 'temporary madness', this, "I've been in the photography/video industry 5 minutes but I'm jacking it all in and burning all my bridges to follow my dream of becoming a YouTube influencer".

They are already complaining about revenues drying up and as even more jump on the bandwagon...

Same as so many of our colleagues who jacked in proper paying jobs to become 'part-time workshop trainers for full-time incomes'. How's that now working for you?

So many have packed it in and left the industry as that market rapidly dried up due to free YouTube 'education' and they could not face going back cap in hand to venues or planners saying, "err, actually I am available for weddings again".

YouTube for the majority I am pretty sure is heading in that direction. Maybe they can leap over to TikTok because surely having to only make 3 second productions, that's going to be an easy life and you will soon not only be rolling in it, but loved by 10 billion fellow shallow fuckwits.

Or maybe I'm just also an old goat. Baaaa 😚

Well said. I happen to follow much of these YT channels because they’re usually the only ones getting advance copies of tech we’re interested in and put out content displaying the quality. I just try to recognize use their bias when possible. 

1 hour ago, newfoundmass said:

That there's no incentive for companies to treat their customers better when people think having to buy an external fan is a reasonable thing to do for a brand new camera. 

I'm not trying to be hard on you, it's just incredibly frustrating. 

Seems odd to assume buying a fan stops companies from making built in fans. Panasonic did it.  And also interesting that you care so deeply about others decisions. 

What’s the reasons to grab an fx30 over S5II. Is S5II AF up to snuff 

It was brought up in another thread that S5II has an internal fan. I concede all other points I’ve said. If they can do it so can all other manufacturers. Agree that this is absurd. 

It was brought up in another thread that S5II has an internal fan. I concede all other points I’ve said. If they can do it so can all other manufacturers. Agree that this is absurd. 

On 8/10/2023 at 1:07 PM, newfoundmass said:

People will never learn. It truly bums me out.

Learn what? 

3 minutes ago, Eric Calabros said:

Damn, even this tiny external ssd has active cooling fan

 

Does that translate to small cameras 

27 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

Could be interesting with the Tilta fan jobbie for heavier video use…but then begs the question why not just FX3?…but 12mp.

But these things are intended more for photo use with video capability rather than true hybrids.

I’m still on the fence between having hybrid units and dedicated units. Some days I’m a fan of having it all on one, but others happier having one thing in one hand and then switching to another unit rather than flipping a switch.

3 hours ago, ntblowz said:

Yeah that way you only need 1 camera instead of 2, and FX30 is quite bit more bulky/heavier than A6700.

That’s awesome you’ve used these devices. While they don’t look attractive compared to a built in fan, are you confident they work similarly?  How much extra record time did you get? 
 

may wait for a7C II is announced before making a decision, but having a fan that’s effective and cheap may do as you said - remove need for 2 bodies. 

https://www.canonrumors.com/sony-will-announce-the-a7c-ii-and-a7cr-on-august-29-2023/?amp

15 hours ago, ntblowz said:

As long the fan can fit on the back of the camera it should work regardless of make or model.

So an a6700 with a fan looks like an attractive offer. Will look into it as I was considering an fx30 and a used a6600 for hybrid use on travel. 

Well then there’s no purpose in distinguishing pro and hobbyist as it seems we’ve deducted professional into a postmodern whatever we say it is. Not in a bad way just that good points were raised. 
 

the reality is what we have so we have to decide what we’re willing to accept and what makes sense for us. 
 

the fx30/a6700 makes a ton of sense for me when i dip back in. Small bodies for travel and compact lenses are hugely important for me as a non-paid user. Throwing it in a bag for a flight and filming is great and the aesthetics of the Sony image is desirable. The Fuji like burned me on AF for both video and photo.  Canon lens game is too pricey for a hobbyist like me. Panasonic is looking good but body and lens size are a bit big. 
 

all good points here