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^ Let’s not get all paranoid, it’s the right way up when it’s folded back into its under EVF position..

Chelsea was probably hungover and forgot to charge the battery overnight. Sorry but T&C just aren’t the most rigorous testers out there..

Taking stills and shooting in pixel-binned 4K shouldn’t brick the camera. However it apparently does heat it up enough that the 8K/HQ modes can’t operate after some point. This behavior seems odd and perhaps a pre-production issue. Which is why I suggested there is perhaps a slim chance Canon fixes that particular issue in firmware. Not trying to defend Canon, if they aren’t able to fix that then it’s going to be a deal breaker for many, including myself.

I highly doubt Sony is looking over his shoulder. The guy has been traced back to being the one who blew his NDA by carelessly leaking the camera body image.. besides no “workflow change” can improve things like rolling shutter in the driving scenes or during his brutal whip pans..

I have to admit I’m pretty gutted by that. As a long time Canon shooter I was really hoping R5 was going to be the one. But in no way can I trust a camera that will not even shoot a second of over sampled 4K video after an hour of shooting stills. That’s just utterly ridiculous. Hopefully Canon can fix that in firmware because I think that’s going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people!

Good catch, I think you’re right.. looking at a similar vlog he did a month ago with an A73, the footage is night & day: skin tones are awful, motion cadence is terrible, grading breaks up, rolling shutter is visible and at 5:30 the highlights are all blown. whereas on his latest car review, IQ looks amazing with much better DR, skin tones and almost no RS. If so, A7S3 is shaping up to be a major upgrade in Sony IQ. Pretty excited for tomorrow’s announcement!

^ those already exist: EOS R/RP.

I think Sony may win this round. They played it ‘safe’ with no 6K/8K or even oversampling. Just solid 10-bit 4K with hopefully no time record limit. The lowlight, DR & fast readout should give top results. They’re AF is getting better on each generation. Its almost as if the Sony exec bluffed Canon with its “exceeding expectations” remark forcing Canon into an overkill/overheating trap..House of cards style of the imaging game!

No FF mirrorless has ever packed so much heat though. (pun intended)

Agreed that is the nail in the coffin for me too.

That isn't going to happen though. Maybe on the R5 II in 4 years. Some will argue the overheating was purposely overlooked by Canon as to not hurt the Cxxx sales. Either way, external cooling seems to be best bet, Canon themselves recommend it (as ludicrous as it may sound).

Whaaaat? now that is pretty scary 😱 It's honestly looking more & more grim. I really want an R5 but the A7S3 is calling my name if it proves to be a more reliable tool with not too many caveats. Canon need to partner up with Tilta and include that cooling system in the box or else there is going to be a lot of angry campers out there!

I actually like what they did here, and if their claims are true it could be a decent workaround. I do wonder about how the USB power works though, is it as simple as plugging it into the bodies USB-C port or do you need an external power bank?

You’re reading waaaay too much into my comment Andrew. I didn’t mean to take “sides” with Drake.. was just clearing up the confusion that other members may have had concerning his on going présence here. I personally couldn’t care less either way lol.. I will try and do my best to not refer to any of your “foes” in the future though as it clearly seems to get you triggered..?!

@Jordan Drake is who he was thinking of and used to comment here before the fallout with Andrew.

True those are some pretty significant upgrades for stills shooting and levels things much more with Sony's higher-end offerings. I'm being very cautious as well as I simply can't have a camera that bricks on me under any circumstances (which certainly rules out R6). Looks like 1DX3 isn't such a bad investment after all as it does offer FF oversampled 10-bit 4:2:2 4K & 5.5K RAW without any overheating issues. Still the most reliable pro hybrid from Canon!

Of course an 8.2K oversampled 4K IQ is going to be vastly superior to a non oversampled pixel binned 4K IQ. That's why it's called HQ lol.. At least there is a 4K HQ mode, unlike the A7S3's non oversampled 4K. A comparison in between those two will be interesting. As for the overheating, what I would really like to get confirmation is if when overheating warning is turned on, can you switch to regular 4K without the camera ever bricking. Also still no serious RS tests...

Cmon dude, every single company thinks like that. Especially electronics. You are delusional if you think you’re favorite company really cares about why you buy their gear. They spec a model, price it, market it and pray for the best in terms of sales. Nothing more nothing less. Anyways only time will tell if R5/R6 are a hit or a fluke. Surely some sales will be affected by the overheating, I am certainly going to wait for more extensive real-world stress tests before considering ordering one. But again calling them a fiasco, saying Canon are done sounds extremely premature and indeed bashing for the sake of it..

At least the R5 has 4K modes that will never brick the camera (or so people claim). R6 however overheats in all 4K modes which I understand may be a deal-breaker for some people, especially if you’re in the warmer hemisphere..

..but it’s the video side that’s quite the breakthrough for Canon shooters (overheating aside). If i were a stills only shooter, I’m not quite sure I’d feel the urge to upgrade from an EOS R/RP. Canon are clearly aiming R5/R6 to hybrid shooters and EOS Cinema line users such as myself looking for B-cams.

I love it these cameras aren’t even out yet the EOSHD jury is already out and the tribe has spoken: “Canon are done for video” ” R5/R6 are lemons” While I agree the overheating issues are a growing concern and may affect sales, I still think both cameras will be a hit and the IQ in the HQ modes should be amazing. It seems that in order to overcome the overheating issues, Sony had to abandon oversampling, quad-bayer sensor and who knows what else.. always some kind of compromise with small hybrid cameras! Anyways, I think we still have to wait for more in-depth real world tests and official A7S3 announcement before making such bold statements as the above..

To be fair Jordan did mention he was shooting in cool Canadian summer conditions (average temperature this month in Calgary was 10-23 degrees Celsius) whereas Behiri admitted he shot in 29 degrees weather (average temp in Tokyo currently 23-30 degree Celsius). That to me would explain the conflicting overheating reports from those two. The official Canon R6 overheating chart is listed for 23 degree weather: That said, it is pretty appalling Behiri would use a pre-production R6 for what he claims was a “2 day shoot” with apparently long interviews/takes in 29 degree weather. That’s a disaster waiting to happen..

the full HDMI port is a god bless 👌

it's from the YT video posted above. the black boxes are just coverups of the Sony ID tags to protect the leaker. more curious about what XAVC codec is used for the 10-bit 4:2:2 on screen.

Yeah I highly doubt internal BRAW but external to a BM Video Assist remains a possibility.