John Matthews

Yeah! It just takes it all in! It's pretty dang sweet. It's the go-grab camera and I love the basic style with the dials and rings. There's something pure and fuzzless about it. It's pretty solid up to ISO1250 (but there's noise at lower levels already, that's really where the G7 and GX80 stepped up the game). Yet... no live feed out over HDMI, would've loved an articulated touchscreen... audio is a tough one. But yeah, as with all cameras, there's things it is and things it isn't.
The kitlens of the GX80, as seen on the GM-line, is a weird one, I was already trying to make it turn when I was like 'oh shit, it's a zoomring only', it's so weird. xD Not sure you would keep it on there all the time unless you need the sleek profile and zoom flexibility. I think it's more fun with a ZY Optics/Zhongyi/Mitakon 25mm f/0.95, Lumix 20mm f/1.7, 42.5mm f/1.7 (OIS) or something like that. Think the Leica 15mm f/1.7 would be a great go-to lens for it (still eyeballing that one hard!).

Thanks! Yeah, the color definitely seems to be improved. Waiting for the GH5 myself. I really miss the ergonomics of the GH4. 
I used window lights with 2 x 110 cm round reflectors. I have big windows on the left and waited until the sun had passed, between 12:00 - 16:00. So basically just indirect window light with reflectors. One of the great things about the GX85 is that you can underexpose by a little and adjust contrast in post to achieve better colors and DR without getting any noise on low ISO. With the GH4 I easily got noise in the shadows in my dark kitchen, so it's really refreshing being able to shoot underexposed clean images and pull it up in post. 
@Cinegain The Leica 15mm f/1.7 is really nice on the GX85

Anyone know how the G80/85 will compare to the gx80/85 for video? Trying to decide which camera to get next. With the image stabilization being such an important feature, I think either (if similar otherwise) are good candidates rather than waiting for a gh5 which likely will cost much more.

Is anyone shooting on their GX85 and have some videos to show?
I finally got a workflow that I am very happy with. It may not be the most interesting video for you guys but please have a look and tell me how what you think about the colors? 
It was shot in standard 0, -5, -5, 0 with only natural light and reflectors. The edit was done in FCPX using Color Finale. 
 

Yeah, the GX80 is lovely in size! Here next to the LX100:

But... the G80 sounds more like a pre-GH5. A little crowdwarmer. I think it's quite convincing offering the best of the G7 and the GX80, making it a nice allround tool (making up for some lacking features of the GX80). But of course the GH5 will have some tricks up its sleeve to pull ahead quite a bit and up the productivity. While the E-M1 mark II sounds like it will be a dream for hybrid shooting with stills focus and casual video shooting.
Agree on the Mitakon. I happen to like some character and flaws as well... not that there's something wrong with clinically sharp perfect bokeh lenses either. But it paints the picture differently which might just be what the situation demands.

True. It is seriously pocketable. Most jacket pockets could easily accommodate one. I guess it's similar in size to the LX100. That can't be said about the G7 or G80/85. Especially with the kit lens.
I like the Mitakon 25mm f.95 lens despite some of the strange reviews. It has that characteristics of one of those old minolta (was it Minolta?) lenses that Mattias Burling (I hope that was him) mentioned, about having a lot of flare pointed at direct sunlight, and thus softer image due to the coating. Almost like a natural ultra contrast built-in.
Also, like I mentioned, some cities have so much character at night. They literally come alive then. 

You make some good points and I agree that Panasonic was stupid for the most part in some of their exclusions, but the GX80 is significantly smaller than the G7. The G85 is expected to be even a few millimeters bigger all the way around (128.4 x 89.0 x 74.3 mm). The GX80 is also about 80 grams lighter... just saying because size matters with M43; otherwise, we might all be shooting something different.

Caught Max Yuryev comparing the GX85, Fuji Xt2, 5dIV, and A6300... all of which are the hot cameras right now (especially the A6300 )... a nice video considering low-light, detail, and DR. The GX85 fairs well, especially at its price point.
 

Caught Max Yuryev comparing the GX85, Fuji Xt2, 5dIV, and A6300... all of which are the hot cameras right now (especially the A6300 )... a nice video considering low-light, detail, and DR. The GX85 fairs well, especially at its price point.
 

M43 spec includes corrections to geometric distortion and vignetting. The unique corrections for Panasonic are done to chromatic aberration. I don't recall anything for moire, but that may be new.

distortion from the stabilization?

Super annoying!
But it seams that I found a fix:
You just need to open Terminal and paste the following line: defaults -currentHost write com.apple.ImageCapture disableHotPlug -bool YES

To reverse it back to normal just paste: defaults -currentHost write com.apple.ImageCapture disableHotPlug -bool NO

Source: http://petapixel.com/2015/12/21/stop-apple-photos-from-auto-launching-in-os-x-with-one-command/

The GX80 is meeting my expectations for run & gun. I think this shoot exemplifies expectations one can have of this camera for your quick, set-it-up and shoot style videos… family, street, etc.
Here’s my setup:

GX80 Panasonic 25mm F1.7 Zoom H1 Sony ECMCS3 Clip style Omnidirectional Stereo Microphone Settings:
GX80: Natural profile (Contrast = -5, Sharpness  = -5, Noise Reduction = -5, Saturation = -5), White balance (Sunny, A3, G3), ISO (200), Sutter Speed (1/50), Aperture (F2.8), IBIS (on, but no electronic IS) Zoom: WAV (24-bit, 96K Hz sampling), Level (70) Description of shoot:
This took me about 5 minutes to shoot. I saw an interesting opportunity, went to get the GX80 and Zoom H1 from my office. For the settings above, I only need to put the camera in “C” mode to start. The Zoom is always put back with the level at 70, I only need to place it near the subject and start recording.
Post Processing:
Imported sound from Zoom H1 (just connect, don’t take out card) - 30 seconds Imported video ~3 minute video file - about 3 minutes Synced files - 10 seconds Threw it on a 4k timeline - 1 second Expanded audio - 1 second Select camera audio and push “v” key - 1 second Added 1db to Zoom H1 audio - 1 second Collapsed audio - 1 second Make cuts - 10 minutes Color corrected (highlights = + 15%, midtones = +7%, shadows = +1%, Global color 110° = -3%) - 2 minutes Added FilmConvertPro2 effect (KD P400 Ptra, Grain = 0) - 10 seconds Added a simple title - 10  seconds Rendered video - ~20 minutes Total Post Processing time = ~40 minutes (with rendering)
Re-rendered video at constant bitrate of 35000 kbps in 4k with Handbrake, resulting file 690 MB- ~10 minutes
Uploaded to Youtube - 90 minutes
Youtube processing - 10 minutes
 
Final Product:
Picture Quality:
Hindsight is always 20/20. I think the scene was a little dark as her face falls into shadow from time to time. I probably could have bumped up exposure and just avoided the window blown out in the background, but it gives you an idea of the limitations in terms of dynamic range. For me, the colors are quite nice and pleasing after applying Filmconvert… before that, not so much as white balance was off due to keeping blue channel from going too low- I guess many cameras need to be tweaked.
Notes:
This is a video of my daughter trying to set-up a Canon Powershot A410 that I gave her. She practices from time to time and enjoys shooting. Capturing moments like this is one of the main reasons I bought the GX80 for family. Please excuse her coughing as she’s getting over the flu. Also, note that she’s constantly switching from English to French. Good luck trying to understand, but you still have an idea of the audio quality.
Of the video I cut out was a portion that was probably unusable as I wasn’t holding the camera steady enough as I moved to another position. Yes, it’s prone to jitters if the IBIS goes past its limitations, but I could easily have avoided this hadn’t it been to user error (movements were simply too fast).
Feel free to make comments on any of the above as I’m trying to improve everything! By the way, here’s a photo she took of me looking serious during this shoot. 

A comparison beetwen GX85 and BMPCC (the same subject, some waters and lights):
GX85:
BMPCC:
 
 
 

You might need to add on top of that a new 4k display, video card, drives, etc. Personally, I'm just going to "rough it" with the GX80 for awhile longer, even after considering some of these cool features in the G80.

Somehow I missed this review of the GX80's IBIS vs the GX8... interesting.
 

It's better. The GX80's VF is limited due more to the form-factor- the G80 will be significantly bigger camera than the GX80.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1280825-REG/panasonic_dmc_gm85kbody_lumix_dmc_g85_mirrorless_micro.html
 
$697, body only

Better viewfinder or same as GX80?

The $697 Body only price is a mistake. B&H seems to have removed that from the search results, though they have inadvertently, forgotten to remove the URL, that you just posted. 


The price is extremely competitive. I noticed some very interesting features, on this one, from the Imaging Resource website:
 
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-g85/panasonic-g85A.HTM
" .. due to the G85's more durable construction (more on that later), the shutter is also quieter than not only the G7 but also the GX85 by about four decibels. Not only is it sturdy, lightweight and compact, but it's also very quiet, making it an excellent choice for events, ceremonies, and other sound-sensitive environments .."

Interesting. This must be due to the weather-sealing. I wonder how much the 4 Extra Decibels translates in real terms. Would one actually be able to use it at live events, without a plethora of abuses being hurled. 

  "Panasonic is claiming up to 5-stops of image stabilization correction, besting the 4-stop, first-generation Dual I.S. system of the GX85. According to Panasonic, the new system, by way of the Venus Engine processor, controls both the lens' optical I.S. system and the sensor-shifting mechanism simultaneously for better angle compensation. This new stabilization system should provide up to 5-stops of correction all the way out to an equivalent focal length of about 280mm ..."

This will offer one stop of better shake compensation over the GX85. I am suspecting, it is due to the heavier body, and not the MagAlloy front side, like Panasonic Claims. Panasonic may have discovered it by accident. 

  " .. front face of the camera's chassis is solid magnesium alloy, while the top and back panels are both polycarbonate."

Interesting ONLY the front side of the camera is magnesium alloy. The back is still, surprisingly, plastic. Drop it, on the front side, if you must 
  "G85 does have in common with the GH4's video options includes Cinelike D and Cinelike V picture styles for increased dynamic range in videos and easier color grading capabilities"

I guess everyone knew this would get CinelikeD and CinelikeV. Though, they don't mention anything about VLog, which is appears not to be a feature available.  


 

I believe it also has a flip-out screen.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1280825-REG/panasonic_dmc_gm85kbody_lumix_dmc_g85_mirrorless_micro.html
 
$697, body only

I dunno whether this is the Final price, but pocket-lint claims, that the price of the Panasonic G80 is £699 ($911) Body Only. 

I am guessing, then, that the price of the G80 would be $999 with a kit lens

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138806-photokina-2016-all-the-best-new-cameras-for-2016-from-the-show

I believe it also has a flip-out screen.