BenEricson

Is it really closer to the URSA Mini though? I see both sides of the argument, but the BMP4K looks closer to the GH5 than the original pocket camera. The original pocket camera looks closer to the Alexa than the Gh5 does... So? Can't wait to test it, but if I liked this look I would already own the Gh5 at this point. Am I missing something? Market: We want a 4K Pocket Camera! BMD: Here ya go! Market: Not Enough Mojo.

Anyone know what's up with the texture on the bokeh? Is that the window? Looks like a texture that moves independently behind the model.

I totally agree. For indoor/poor lighting, the C300ii wins hands down. With nice light, it is debatable and some might even prefer the bmpcc for softer, more filmic qualities. I still can't believe how a camera so small can perform so well. Been rocking with the Metabones and 35mm F2 IS. Really nice combo.

I don't think that is totally accurate. I sold mine used for 650 about a year or more after the sale. The pocket was steady around 700 until maybe the last 6-12 months. The fire sale was like 3/4 years ago. The deals you can get on packages are incredible right now. I just bought one with a speed booster and cage for 630.

I'm not particularly fond of this shot, but in that lighting condition this is basically a silhouette shot. Why would you need shadow detail at that level of exposure? If black was pulled down more it would pop a lot more. The shot looks like it could be exposed another two or three stops lower. There doesn't need to be shadow detail when you're shooting directly into the sun. This is exposing wrong for that type of shot. I attached a still I shot with the OG pocket last week. If you're shooting a light source like that, black can be black.

Looks nice, but nothing the original pocket couldn't do? Especially only seeing this a 1080p version. The highlights seem to be clipping harder/differently than the original pocket. Looks more like the GH5 than the BMPCC to me.

Are you saying you use it without the IR cut filter? In my experience the camera is about 5x better colorize when there's no IR contamination.

I agree. Judging by purely the image quality, it seems to be pretty similar to the mavic, phantom, etc. Would love to change my mind, since the price and features seem awesome. Do you still need heavy ND filters to shoot 24p - 1/48 in the sun?

Looks great. It's kinda crazy that BM didn't put a IR cut filter in the original pocket. The camera is not very usable without, but amazing with.

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It will be 4K 60p AND 10 bit. Not both at once.

This doesn't look better than a C100 Mkii or C300 to me?

Colors kind of remind me of the frames posted above. The F3 produces a really good image. Really underrated.

I’m sure it can look great, but that example looked really bad, every characteristic of why I hated the fs700 image. Sense 8 was shot with the F55, not FS5. Id like to John still shoot a series as beautiful with the FS5 ”Camera: Sony F-55 Lens: Zeiss Ultra Prime lenses, and Fujinon 19-90 zoom lenses” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiewire.com/2017/08/emmy-2017-camera-nominated-cinematographers-1201868305/amp/

It is insane how bad Sony footage can look. The iPhone renders colors much better.

Not sure. Emailed them and they never emailed back. There’s another company makinf the filters and they did respond. Pocket came in the mail today. Wow the battery situation is terrible. The camera shuts down completely when you change the f stop with the metabones attached. Forgot about that one. I do have an external battery but wow I forgot how bad it can be.

^ The fact that a camera so small can produce an image so nice is pretty outstanding. Very filmic. Also found this video looking for bmmcc stuff. Looks like he shoots a color chart does some stuff in resolve. He also uses the RAWLite internal Moire/IR cut filter. Has anyone used any of the internal IR Cut/Moire filters? I just picked up the pocket camera again and want to try to one of those. Looking at pistol grip rigs. This is kind of goofy, but the weight on the bottom is probably nice. It's very difficult to find a heavy pistol grip. Someone should make a pistol grip battery handle. Maybe something that just takes a couple Canon batteries.

How much for a user FS700r these days?

Curious what you shoot with these? Just picked up a pocket with metabones EF for 600. So many deals on the eBay kits. I also own a few of those SSDs. So good.

Good call. I’m not sure you’d see a huge difference if they did or didn’t do it that way - the lines are so straight. Like you said, it would take a ton of tries to trigger at the right time. The super wide fisheye is what really makes the clip from Colin Reeds video look cool. You can also add that 4:3 is much better for this effect, since the rotation is nearly symmetrical and center focused, rather than the slightly awkward 16:9 rotating frame.

I think it was more the idea that he did it handheld in a line that made it cool. Vx looks awesome. I can't tell if this was done in post or not, definitely done way before the Colin Reed video though.

If you shoot a lot of interviews, definitely a good camera to own. The Canon series is so good in low/mixed lighting. Great cameras but I feel like the need for the external recorders puts them in a different category. Internal ND and auto focus is a BIG 10 percent... Of course all depends on what you typically shoot.

The lowlight at the time was probably quite a bit better than the RED offerings.

Sorry, not trying to derail this thread. I just want to mention that it is neither THAT expensive or difficult to shoot film. Grain holds up fine on Vimeo. @kye - Thanks for the kind words. The WB was done in post. Half of the footage was summer and half was winter, so I wanted to separate the footage with color. The entire project was scanned to flat log 2k on the Scan Station Scanner. The rig was just the Bolex 16mm with the gun/trigger grip. I have a Super 16mm version but we went with the 4:3 because of the wide lens look and choices with that ratio. I've been skateboarding for about 16 years, so just me rolling down the street. I did a bit of warp stabilize here and there to help it out, (which works way better on film because theres no rolling shutter jello.) What you get in a bolex is pretty amazing. Slow motion, single frame, long exposure, internal slot ND, etc. The camera was really built to be used for quick setup and just getting shots. The pan up from the water was done deliberately, but everything else was just made in the edit. Thank you again for checking out the project.

And on the topic of web compression, banding. No banding when there's grain.