Liam

I like keh.com for browsing and finding deals. Takumars and Nikons are what I'd recommend for lower budget. That's about the same focal range I always use, nothing wrong with that at all.

22 minutes ago, Mat Mayer said:

There was talk of some or all vintage lenses having an issue with the NX1 I believe. So I would search for that before making any choices.

^this had some of that discussion. Could be a good resource for the OP as well. 

7 hours ago, cojocaru27 said:

Hey guys, could you post an example of a short shot with NX1 that can come close to this one in terms of image quality. I have a nx1 myself and love it for the details it retains and for the perfect combo of really good stills and decent video, but i find it hard to come close to this organic filmish quality. It's not about resolution, colors and just dynamic range. To be honest i am fine with all on nx1, even its limited dr. But there is something hard to explain, maybe is my poor english, but has to do with an organic look and feel. Maybe with the organic way to render the bokeh. find it hard to get rid of the digital, someone calls it clinical, look out of nx1. Some examples would help. couldn't find myself something really close to this. thx.

A lot of the best nx1 shooters here like raised blacks, which can look great, but isn't for everyone. Could be the sharpening you're seeing that you don't like.

This guy's most recent four videos (maybe more) were shot on the nx1, and I love the skintones and colors he achieves - https://vimeo.com/timmyturntable

Probably have to do your own experimenting with LUTs, camera settings, and grading workflow. Maybe vintage lenses or a pro mist filter could help you

but there's still stuff you don't buy.. because you don't have infinite money. you said yourself you do have a point where something is "expensive". you just have a higher budget than the disrespectful guy.. everyone do whatever.

BACK ON TOPIC

1 hour ago, j.f.r. said:

Your post honestly disrespect a craft that people have put their life into.... Personally I think you should honestly do some history, research and most importantly value this craft which many people feed their families with.

 

Cameras becoming so accessible was a great thing, but also it allows people to walk in and disrespect the art....... 

amen! exactly why I just got the Lytro cinema camera as a b cam for my Alexa 65 #sickofamateurs

57 minutes ago, Flynn said:

I certainly don't think Red looks bad, not that my opinion matters (I'm one of those hobbyists you mentioned and admittedly far from an expert). I actually think Red looks pretty fantastic. I've just heard my favorite cinematographer (Roger Deakins) and others rave about the Alexa. But I'm sure there are some who love Red just as much.

Agreed! I feel like the skin tones from Red without much work are definitely kind of orange, but in more of a lut way than a fake tan or plastic looking skin way. The film Drinking Buddies and Mattias's footage are great examples of the color science shown off really simple and pretty. It's more of like a glint off of the skin I think. Feel like it could help in mixed lighting too, so the skin still pops instead of just blending in. A lot of films shot on film have very orange skin, but still in a cool way. 

49 minutes ago, Pavel Mašek said:

Luca, I am sorry but I wrote that "I completely understand that price". I meant that it is little pricy FOR ME considering it will works only for NX cameras (as there will be no other NX cameras in future). That is all... I really admire you for your great work.

Please let me know what is crop factor of you speedbooster.

Nx can potentially can be adapted to mft, e mount, maybe fuji..? Because of flange distance. I don't know of any adapters for those, though. Could be interesting using this speedbooster on nx1, a6300, gh5, xt2..

Manos: The Hands of Fate

4 hours ago, carlic said:

I cant wrap my head around what kind of mount you have in mind that will fit all manufacturers. By replacable flanges maybe?

 

 

no, not all manufacturers. He's doing an ef mount speedbooster adapter. but you can adapt a lot of lenses to ef, like he listed.

A little bigger crop factor than the 645z, i think. If I'm calculating right

For something so beginner, or at least non-pro (well some of their customers), an 8 bit and 1080p limit with a still manageable bit rate, and the DR, color, sensor size, lenses etc offered in a nikon d750 and xpro2.. that's hard to improve upon. You can always make every camera an alexa of course with 12 bit raw global shutter more more more. And 4k is something everyone is whining for all the time, but as things keep getting "better".. a lot of people are more excited watching older tech prices drop >:) Though i hate to be the one guy with an old, cheap computer, it's nice to find a camera with magic that also just freaking works!

Wow.. I watched the trailer and the short in broad daylight, on my phone, and was still screaming "oh shit!"

This seems like decent time to ask this.. I forget what the technique is called where you have two mono audio channels recording, set at different levels, to have a back up if one of them clips, like increase the dynamic range of the audio. Without the name it was impossible to research how to do it. Feel like that would be an awesome tool to get something usable on set.

I contacted someone who posted it years ago on Lift Gamma Gain. he's still active on there. maybe something will come of that :3

1 hour ago, PannySVHS said:

Hey Liam,

Didn´t know there was a tool from Cliptoolz named Color.This tool looks too interesting to not to try it out. Haven´t found any working link to it though.

Maybe we should keep this thread alive.

Right?? I mean, Da Vinci Resolve Lite is probably a superior alternative, but still, was super bummed to discover it and then learn it was dead so quickly

In the ideal nx1 settings thread in this forum there are a lot of results with other picture profiles that the nx500 can do. Maybe browse there to see if anything pops out. It's pretty identical to the nx1 when everything is the same as far as I've seen and still able to do the high bit rate hack. D5500 could be an interesting choice in that price range? If you're looking for other suggestions. Flat profile, decent DR, less artifacts and better detail than the canon equivalent. Sorry you got robbed /:

11 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

 

For version 2.0, google show this

w w w . mudgee . net/ClipToolz-Convert-V2.msi

cool, thank you! this may be the one I found the other day. But I was actually looking for their program "Color", not "Convert"

26 minutes ago, bluefonia said:

Not right :-). Final Cut got markers.

wow, my bad. looks like they're in most nle's haha

33 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

Hey Liam,

Cliptoolz is available for download in version 3.0.

Version 2.0 used to be for free but is now only available with limited functions.

cool, do you have a link? Their site appears to be dead

I keep discovering interesting programs that have since died -_- this just seems like a place where I could put it out there and see if anyone is aware of a link or copy still about. Would be appreciated.

Happy filming

Sony Vegas is the only nle with markers, right? (That and Blender)

8 hours ago, aldolega said:

Seems extremely unlikely to me when the GH5 is due out in two months. Why would they want their $700 camera to be more competitive with their probably-$1800-2000 flagship?

While it's possible Panasonic would think that way.. it's not true. Would really just make this a much better b-camera for the gh5

Thanks Andy! Those are all wayy better deals for that level than I'd been finding

8 minutes ago, DBounce said:

So if what you say pans out DR would be at least the same,  but you would also gain far less rolling shutter,  4k 60p, DPAF plus all the other advantages of the newer camera. Essentially, there would be zero case for the 1DC asside from lower cost. I was sold on the 1DX Mkii even without c-log, as the DPAF makes working with shallow DoF on a gimbal a painless task... and 4k 60p 

so, better video dynamic range, no in camera sharpening, for lower cost.

How much better is the rolling shutter?

Yeah, the new camera stuff is exhausting. This forum does a good job talking about all aspects, though. how about a thread where people just share weird obscure tricks. Like their secrets and sage wisdom that is at least not common. I could get really into like a subforum about super micro budget filmmaking, though obviously that's not the only way to do things, nor the best usually. Wouldn't wanna flood the forum with those little things. Been waiting for certain people here to write about their secrets to finding amazing deals online for quite a while!

I'm looking at investing in some lighting soon.. to light in a way that looks natural. seems to be one of the harder things to teach yourself from online articles like I usually do... Nervous about investing in those silly $100 studio three point light kits of course. Kinda just thinking $10 desk lamps with decent, cool white, 60watt incandescent bulbs. Any good budget fresnel type lights or alternatives someone could recommend?

do you know anyone you could team up with to make some of these and sell them, Luca? I understand it's pretty difficult. someone like Richard Gale probably has the skill set at least, probably others on this site have some experience in that. 

also, did you have to completely change the nx mount? you said you had to work on the camera body as well. does glass go into the mount enough to interfere with the shutter maybe? can you say which speedbooster brand you modified for this? just curious