Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

The S10 af is much better compared to the X-T20 that I had. Since the X-T20 had PDAF and the X-A3 is CDAF only, yes, the S10 AF will be much better than the X-A3. And yes, the IBIS will allow you much slower shutter speeds (the Fuji IBIS is very good for stills, for movies I still think that it is somewhat abrupt) - but just remember that if there is any movement in the scene, it will appear as a blurry object. Never tried bigger exposures with the Fujis, but with my Oly E-m5 II in the past I could get 1 sec exposures handheld sharp images very easily.

If you want it for stills and you think that the X-A3 af is not so bad, yes, the S10 is a great option, miles better. But if IBIS is not a necessity for stills, I would take a look in the X-E4 or X-T30 (both the I and II). In fact, I had a X-T20 for some time and was a good camera.

Changed it for the X-S20. Good camera, but the X-S20 is much better. Biggest difference: battery life. With the small battery, sometimes I took 30 stills and 20 mins of 4k and the battery is gone. AF is better in the S20, specially with face tracking - the S10 have a strange system that selects the face nearer the focal point, and draws gray boxes in other faces, then you could switch faces with the back joystick. All ok, but after some seconds of recording, it changes to the central face again, and you have to start a game of face selection - whane I had it only used face tracking with one person in the frame. The S20 select the face nearer the focal point, always - and with a firmware update it got touch and track in video (he S10 have it only for stills), and I use it for multiface shots. 10-bit video in the S20 finally makes F-Log usable (the S10 is a 8-bit camera). And the S-20 have 6k open gate, which I use a lot for better 2160p reframing in post. For some uses, like single person stills portraits or slow paced stills, the X-S10 is almost the same as the S20. But in most scenarios, and specially in video, the S20 is much better. In fact, with a bit better AF, a LUTs system like Panasonic, and a rangefinder look (that I look because attracts less attention), the S20 would be a perfect camera for an amateur like me.

Interesting indeed. Missed an EVF (but for the intended target is a no problem) and one or two proper control dials (you have one on the lens and one on the 4 way pad). The cooling solution is VERY neat. Let's see the stabilization, since it is OIS only (plus eletronic stab). But kinda surprised, is really a new camera, not a rehash.

Modified Nikon Z9 sensor?

Have the same one as @ntblowz, with the suction cup. The newer model, with springs, looks much better. And it really works. In the end I only used to do a torture test with my X-S20, under 12 o'clock sun and around 35 celsius, and put the camera to record 6.2k 10-bit 4:2:2. Without the fan, the camera over heated around 25 minutes; with it, went over an hour (the SD card was filled before a temperature shutdown).

I understand the decision to just go FF, but if Panasonic make a APS-C GX9 with the 26mp sensor that Fuji and Sony uses, with a good EVF, IBIS and LUTs system, I would jump from Fuji in the next day.

Now imagine if the Nikon Zf had the style based on this: They probably should stop making Z9s to keep up with the demand. 🙂

I love Lumix, but I suspect that if they don't get some traction in the next 2-3 years, they will "close" and just staying doing Leica develompments.

Any camera compared to the Pen-F is ugly. For me, is the most beautiful digital camera ever made.

My two cents: kinda like the camera. Their design "template" is clear: want to surf the retro trend, and gone for mixing two templates; the OM-1 film camera (that I had) and the Nikon Zf (this one becomes clear for the absence of an AF joystick - the Zf don't have one either - that could be easily put on the AF-ON button). The strange width with came from the OM1 film camera, and at least they used it for putting the bigger battery. The no grip came from the retro OM1 film styling - and I kinda don't bother much, I always use an external grip when there is no big grip, but for who wants to go "full retro" could use it with as is. You could put a grip, but not remove one. Remember: this is for people that goes for style first. The price is unreal - but Olympus/OM always put insane prices at launch. In 2 or 3 months (except if this sells like hotcakes) this will drop to 1799. Still expensive, and if I was OM, would have changed this: - Stacked sensor was a bad choice in my view - is not a sports or fast action paced camera. The 20mp PDAF from the OM5 could easily be used (but people will cry IS A REHOUSED OM5, and maybe this sensor would not have the speed for all computational stuff), or even better the 25mp PDAF that Pansonic is using (but the development would be much harder, all the image pipeline shoud be remade). Both sensors are probably much cheaper than the stacked one; - Spend a bit of the difference in a 3,69mp EVF panel; - Another bit in a AF joystick on the AF-ON button location, put the AF-ON on the CP button location. - And another bit in firmware people the rewrite the video codecs. The huge resolution drop in the 8-bit modes are unexcusable (no other brand have it). And that's it. Would be a much better camera for the intended target, and probably cheaper.

This. A 14 yr old daughter of a friend have a Iphone 15pro, but now carries everywhere a VERY crappy Olympus digicam, shoots everything with flash, and loves it. (now I've taught her on how to do long exposures) For me, is a trend - when Instagram appeared, everyone used their integrated filters in every photo, because it was so different, and now nobody uses. Dunno how this trend will carry - if 3 or 4 of the biggest infuencers start saying "clean iPhone photos are now the trend", it could dissapear fast. (probably is where the camera companies will put their money - reversing the trend could be cheaper than develop and sell new cameras)

I agree - but Viltrox is not for fully professional use (specially video ones). Is to bring more people to the system. They made a huge jump in quality - their first AF lenses were ok for the price, but the newer "Air" ones are much better optically, and cheaper (because use high quality plastic and basicalyy the same outer shell for a bunch of focal lenghts). Perfect for the S9 and for amateur / enthusiast use of the S5IIs. And the 27mm f/1.2 and the 75mm f/1.2 are superb (but APS-C). But their LAB line looks promising.

The AI was trained about overrigging a camera with Caleb Pike.

I guess Viltrox is follwing this thread... (just kidding) https://www.l-rumors.com/viltrox-is-officially-negotiating-with-leica-for-the-l-mount-licensing/

I started backup cloud when my local HD got corrupted (a thing that - fortunately - never happened again in the last 8 years), I've ran CHKDSK in Windows and it deleted the corrupted videos; and since at the time I had a sync software and did not noticed the deletion, they were erased at the external drive too. I'm an amateur and nothing REALLY important was lost, but I miss some concert footage - specially three from a amazing Sharon Jones concert. Now the cloud and external HD backup never delete files.

Yep - all my media files are in a internal hard drive, and external hard drive, and in a cloud backup. Not impossible that all the three copies becomes destroyed in the same day, but unlikely.

And a warning to remember to have a personal copy of any video uploaded to any plataform. If it dies, the footage dies together.

I have the 13mm. Sharp as hell.

My 2 cents about Panasonic (which still is the more familiar brand to me - left m43 some years ago for Fuji, but when I got a FZ1000 used and saw the interface, just feels like HOME): It's imaging division is on the guillotine for some time now - probably the bean counters are pushing it to divest, and only their history is holding it. It is not exclusive to Panasonic - every company that not have a camera division as its principal one could pull a Samsung anytime. Panasonic, Fujifilm, even Sony someday. I only see Canon and Nikon staying in cameras until the last breath. In M43, it happens exactly what I tought when left the system - Panasonic and OM would turn it to a niche. Video for Panasonic (the G9 II was released because they had the body already developed for the S5II and the electronics developed for the GH7), wildlife for OM. My bets are that 2025 it the testing year - if they don't get traction, will just dump a lot of people and mantain the minimum ones to keep releasing models for Leica. In the X100 craze, re-releasing the LX100 II as a Leica, for me, is a strong alert. Leica margins could keep the division alive as a OEM for Leica. And L mount needs cheap and SMALL lenses. In a word - bring Viltrox to L-Mount. Panasonic releasing a 26mm f/8 manual lens with the S9 for $199 and Viltrox releasing a 28mm f/4.5 SMALLER and WITH AF for $99 was one of the most shameless moments of the year. One last mystery: who makes the GH7 / G9 II 25mp sensor? OM needs it badly.

It is exactly this - everyone is trying to get a piece of the ZV-E10 (which is a HUGE seller for Sony), but positioning the cameras as hybrids. A good move, I should say. And with the dedicated button to switch custom picture profiles in the Z50 II, now oficially Fujifilm (which created the market for "filmish" picture profiles) is the worst brand if you want to use custom picture proflies. Great job, Fuji.

RIsky move, because of all the sensor issues already mentioned. Depending on the price, could be a "budget' mf option. "Oh, but the Fuji colors" - sorry, this is a non-issue on cine market, where everything is heavily color graded. But between this and the rumored "half frame" 1-inch camera, worries me as a Fuji user that development resources are being wasted in risky markets - much better be used to pay some Sony guys to change place for AF, and some Olympus guys for IBIS tuning in video...

DX Z-mount needs ASAP the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8. For primes, I guess that Viltrox will be one of the bigger sellers. About the Z50 II - solid camera for the price. But would be even beter with an IBIS for $100 more.

Honorable mention to DJI - because they are thinking kinda outside the box. And choose to grow in unexplored markets. They started with drones, and snowballed the market - except in some niche sectors, they crushed everyone else. Second marlet tried was cine, with the DJI Ronin 4D - which I think is the most innovative camera of the decade. A lot of completely new stuff there - the LIDAR Af with the depth map for manual focus, the wheel control, the 4 axis gimbal. Not so great in ergo, but was an amazing achievement. This path they not suceed, but was a ambitious 1st try. And the Osmo Pocket 3 - almost everyone that tries it falls in love (including me). Amazingly easy to operate (my wife is using it to make social media videos for her clients, she knows NOTHING about filming, and the videos come out very good), very good stabilization, and the image quality is like 80% of my X-S20. The only camera that I ever used in auto ISO - its metering is VERY good. And in a very unusual and compact form factor, a REAL pocket cam. There are rumors that they will enter the traditional camera market - I have my doubts, since all the markets already established that they entered they have no (the Ronin 4D) or ok success (action cams and gimbals). They rise on unexplored paths - and I guess that if they make a camera, would be breaking some molds. (albeit I suspect that the 1st breaking mold camera should be - or MUST be, to be a success - the 1 inch "half-frame" Fuji)

Same here, but not impossible. Here in this forum nobody talks about the ZV-E10 I and II, and probably is the most sold Sony camera, in number of units. In a "creator" group that I was some time ago, the ZV-E10 was the camera from about 80% of the users. And the ones that started to make money, updated to the FX30 or FX3.