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Christopher Frost spent some days with one and shows a somewhat detailed navigation through the interface.

But nowadays you have to feed the "pure photography" zealots - in fact since the days of the Nikon Df. If OM had put a bigger grip, would be a wave of hate saying that they ruined a beautiful heritage of how a camera should look. These guys would put a photo of the camera with a Zuiko 50mm f/1.4 Chromenose adapted to it to show how they are invested by the gods of photography. And then put an external grip when they really go out to shoot. It is like that idiotic LCD in the X-Pro 3, all praises on how it make they "to focus on the composition, instead of chimping" (like if this was the problem, you could just turn off the LCD or chang it to show just the camera setting in EVERY camera). And BY COINCIDENCE was a camera that had an insane hate of flat LCD cables problems - maybe I guess because in real world the zealots are...opening the fking LCD all the time to chimp ? Photo world nowadays have a problem of small dick syndrome that put Elon Musk to shame.

Indeed - the most cameras that I had in life were Panasonics and for me is by far the most intuitive, as the ergos.

The Lumix have some special modes for DR, maybe it needs some time to figure it out - even Manny will use it more before a final result.

See the Manny Ortiz review, he loved he shutter sound, heheheh

About sensors...I guess that some brands could develop, or financially pay the development, of some Sony sensors, splitting the costs between the brand and Sony Semiconductor by alowing the sensor (or some variation based on the same "foundation") to be sold to some brands after some time. This was VERY evident with the Sony APS-C 26mp sensor. Sony kept the old 24mp sensor with that horrible rolling shutter for ages in their A6xxx line, and Fujifilm had a 26mp much faster sensor made by Sony. After some years...presto, Sony used a Bayer version with some updates in their A6700 and FX30. The stacked Nikon Z9/Z9 sensor probably is the same case - developed or codeveloped by Nikon, be exclusive for some time, could be available down the line (and maybe Panasonic is waiting for it for a stacked sensor version of this new camera). Maybe even the "mysterious" supplier of the 25mp m4/3 sensor of the G9 II / GH7 is Sony too - but Panasonic have an exclusivity clause for it for some time, and that's why OM had to go to the stacked 20mp sensor (and, in reverse, this 20mp stacked is exclusive to OM for some time).

And boy, they spent in marketing this time. Even got some small youtube channels to Europe, and even in the hands of a (very good) photographer here in Brazil, which as far as I remember NEVER received a pre-unit to look (albeit him being a Canon shooter for decades).

Yep. This camera have a ton of video features, but it was intended to be a hybrid - stills as important as video. Guess that one point that they considered is that was A LOT of flak about DR in the stacked sensor cameras (if justifiable or not, is another story), and they didn't got stacked sensor to get better DR. And with it, have a cheaper camera as a collateral (price matters, the success of Nikon Z9, besides the obvious qualities of the camera, have a lot to do with the aggressive pricing). It is not a jack of all trades, and problem even a master of one (maybe for landscape stills, specially with the 176mp multishot, portrait and street). Not well suited for fast action, both in still or video. But is a lot of camera for the money. Maybe if it sells well could have a stacked version.

I never thought about wraps because I suspect that it could brings overheat problems. But for a stills only camera, could be no issue.

The S10 af is much better compared to the X-T20 that I had. Since the X-T20 had PDAF and the X-A3 is CDAF only, yes, the S10 AF will be much better than the X-A3. And yes, the IBIS will allow you much slower shutter speeds (the Fuji IBIS is very good for stills, for movies I still think that it is somewhat abrupt) - but just remember that if there is any movement in the scene, it will appear as a blurry object. Never tried bigger exposures with the Fujis, but with my Oly E-m5 II in the past I could get 1 sec exposures handheld sharp images very easily.

If you want it for stills and you think that the X-A3 af is not so bad, yes, the S10 is a great option, miles better. But if IBIS is not a necessity for stills, I would take a look in the X-E4 or X-T30 (both the I and II). In fact, I had a X-T20 for some time and was a good camera.

Changed it for the X-S20. Good camera, but the X-S20 is much better. Biggest difference: battery life. With the small battery, sometimes I took 30 stills and 20 mins of 4k and the battery is gone. AF is better in the S20, specially with face tracking - the S10 have a strange system that selects the face nearer the focal point, and draws gray boxes in other faces, then you could switch faces with the back joystick. All ok, but after some seconds of recording, it changes to the central face again, and you have to start a game of face selection - whane I had it only used face tracking with one person in the frame. The S20 select the face nearer the focal point, always - and with a firmware update it got touch and track in video (he S10 have it only for stills), and I use it for multiface shots. 10-bit video in the S20 finally makes F-Log usable (the S10 is a 8-bit camera). And the S-20 have 6k open gate, which I use a lot for better 2160p reframing in post. For some uses, like single person stills portraits or slow paced stills, the X-S10 is almost the same as the S20. But in most scenarios, and specially in video, the S20 is much better. In fact, with a bit better AF, a LUTs system like Panasonic, and a rangefinder look (that I look because attracts less attention), the S20 would be a perfect camera for an amateur like me.

Interesting indeed. Missed an EVF (but for the intended target is a no problem) and one or two proper control dials (you have one on the lens and one on the 4 way pad). The cooling solution is VERY neat. Let's see the stabilization, since it is OIS only (plus eletronic stab). But kinda surprised, is really a new camera, not a rehash.

Modified Nikon Z9 sensor?

Have the same one as @ntblowz, with the suction cup. The newer model, with springs, looks much better. And it really works. In the end I only used to do a torture test with my X-S20, under 12 o'clock sun and around 35 celsius, and put the camera to record 6.2k 10-bit 4:2:2. Without the fan, the camera over heated around 25 minutes; with it, went over an hour (the SD card was filled before a temperature shutdown).

I understand the decision to just go FF, but if Panasonic make a APS-C GX9 with the 26mp sensor that Fuji and Sony uses, with a good EVF, IBIS and LUTs system, I would jump from Fuji in the next day.

Now imagine if the Nikon Zf had the style based on this: They probably should stop making Z9s to keep up with the demand. 🙂

I love Lumix, but I suspect that if they don't get some traction in the next 2-3 years, they will "close" and just staying doing Leica develompments.

Any camera compared to the Pen-F is ugly. For me, is the most beautiful digital camera ever made.

My two cents: kinda like the camera. Their design "template" is clear: want to surf the retro trend, and gone for mixing two templates; the OM-1 film camera (that I had) and the Nikon Zf (this one becomes clear for the absence of an AF joystick - the Zf don't have one either - that could be easily put on the AF-ON button). The strange width with came from the OM1 film camera, and at least they used it for putting the bigger battery. The no grip came from the retro OM1 film styling - and I kinda don't bother much, I always use an external grip when there is no big grip, but for who wants to go "full retro" could use it with as is. You could put a grip, but not remove one. Remember: this is for people that goes for style first. The price is unreal - but Olympus/OM always put insane prices at launch. In 2 or 3 months (except if this sells like hotcakes) this will drop to 1799. Still expensive, and if I was OM, would have changed this: - Stacked sensor was a bad choice in my view - is not a sports or fast action paced camera. The 20mp PDAF from the OM5 could easily be used (but people will cry IS A REHOUSED OM5, and maybe this sensor would not have the speed for all computational stuff), or even better the 25mp PDAF that Pansonic is using (but the development would be much harder, all the image pipeline shoud be remade). Both sensors are probably much cheaper than the stacked one; - Spend a bit of the difference in a 3,69mp EVF panel; - Another bit in a AF joystick on the AF-ON button location, put the AF-ON on the CP button location. - And another bit in firmware people the rewrite the video codecs. The huge resolution drop in the 8-bit modes are unexcusable (no other brand have it). And that's it. Would be a much better camera for the intended target, and probably cheaper.

This. A 14 yr old daughter of a friend have a Iphone 15pro, but now carries everywhere a VERY crappy Olympus digicam, shoots everything with flash, and loves it. (now I've taught her on how to do long exposures) For me, is a trend - when Instagram appeared, everyone used their integrated filters in every photo, because it was so different, and now nobody uses. Dunno how this trend will carry - if 3 or 4 of the biggest infuencers start saying "clean iPhone photos are now the trend", it could dissapear fast. (probably is where the camera companies will put their money - reversing the trend could be cheaper than develop and sell new cameras)

I agree - but Viltrox is not for fully professional use (specially video ones). Is to bring more people to the system. They made a huge jump in quality - their first AF lenses were ok for the price, but the newer "Air" ones are much better optically, and cheaper (because use high quality plastic and basicalyy the same outer shell for a bunch of focal lenghts). Perfect for the S9 and for amateur / enthusiast use of the S5IIs. And the 27mm f/1.2 and the 75mm f/1.2 are superb (but APS-C). But their LAB line looks promising.

The AI was trained about overrigging a camera with Caleb Pike.

I guess Viltrox is follwing this thread... (just kidding) https://www.l-rumors.com/viltrox-is-officially-negotiating-with-leica-for-the-l-mount-licensing/

I started backup cloud when my local HD got corrupted (a thing that - fortunately - never happened again in the last 8 years), I've ran CHKDSK in Windows and it deleted the corrupted videos; and since at the time I had a sync software and did not noticed the deletion, they were erased at the external drive too. I'm an amateur and nothing REALLY important was lost, but I miss some concert footage - specially three from a amazing Sharon Jones concert. Now the cloud and external HD backup never delete files.