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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from John Matthews in Interested in the OM5ii for video? Get the E-M5iii instead.   
    And remembering that this camera (and predecessors) only have 8-bit color.

    The problem with Olymṕus is their codecs - they have high bitrates but are much softer than other companies, since the E-M5 MK II days. If you like the look (I had a concert video form the E-M5 MK II that you clearly see that is far from perfect, but it looked fantastic), could be a compelling option, but it probably falls apart very quickly with grading.

    The thing that amazes me (and the only explanation is that it have a VERY good patent) is that no other company implemented Live Bulb - it makes long exposures a breeze, you see the image "developing" on screen, you just pause when I think it is good. It the feature that I miss the most from my Olympus days (and the IBIS perfectly tuned for video).
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from PannySVHS in Camera prices – Have the Japanese taken leave of their senses?   
    Still think is a high price, but in the same ballpark of the X-T50 outside USA, it's ok.

    Could get one only for stills - or just be sane and stay just with the X-S20, since even with just one camera almost don't have time to use it properly...
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro reacted to Emanuel in Nimble Gimbal Suggestions?   
    We have today a new sub-forum expressly open by our webmaster in order to include this niche as many others of similar kind. Have you already noticed it?
    https://www.eoshd.com/comments/forum/38-gimbal-dji-drone-action-cameras/
    I believe once up now by Andrew, it would be nice to have a few selection of these threads moved to there instead?
    If not for anything else, it might help to establish a new trend and become people here used to visit the sub-forum too, increase the visibility and diversify the offer for valuable information on topic.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from Emanuel in Nimble Gimbal Suggestions?   
    Just as an add-on to the topic: Feiyutech realsed a new Scorp Mini, with stronger motors (good) a detachable wireless back handle (kinda good - the remote function is interesting, but I have concerns about robustness) and an updated tracking model (better, but not as good as DJI's).

    Performance look almost on par with the RS4 Mini, but much cheaper.
     
     
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from andrgl in Fujifilm X-Half Officially Announced   
    This camera is not made for us - is for the youngsters that are getting old P&S cameras to experiment something different. If fact, Fuji marketing strategy should be: reach the Tiktokers that created the X100 V and VI frenzy and drop a shitload of money to make this become viral.

    Saw some reviews, there are some very lovely things there and a ton of likely mistakes - but as I said, we are not the target group.

    - Video: forget, is crap. Less than FHD resolution, bad AF, 30 seconds max. A lost opportunity, goodish video with the film sims would be great.
    - Camera is VERY cute and small, but at the same time could have some more "details", have some toyish vibe.
    - The interface is very simplistic (kinda a cross of the digital Instax cameras and the current Fujifim menus). The use of the left display for the menu item and the bigger for the itens is intriguing.
    - The diptych idea is very neat, but as some reviews said, easier to do in the app instead of doinf it in camera.
    - The "film mode" is VERY gimmicky, but could have some traction. Again, the target group will have the veridict.

    Biggest problems in my point of view:
    - Flash photography is a VERY big use case of the youngsters getting old cameras. They love it. And this camera could NOT use any flash - the camera have a led instead of a flash, and a cold shoe without any connection. Huge mistake - if they don't want to put a proper integrated flash, at least could provide a center pin in the shoe to put an external manual flash. And since the camera is so bad for video and don't have a mic port, don't know how to use this dumb shoe for anything.
    - The rear display is very small - and since the younger people probably will use it a lot, could be a problem. In fact, when the rumors started, I said that Fuji should go full Instax mode, making the camera to be designed "vertically". But this would not bring the retro vibes.
    - OVF looks good, but have zero infos. Could have some displayed settings.

    Biggest problem: the price. A camera with no EVF, very basic AF, with a very small main LCD, very few buttons, no integrated flash, a coldshoe, very basic video, for $850? You can just get a X100T or X100S used for the same price, and is a miles better camera.
    I know that it is a "experience" and fun camera, but it should cost much less, around $600. The X-M5 with kit lens is just a tad more. Don't know if the "experience" with this price will get traction. Hope it does - at least is something different.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from PannySVHS in Kodak CCD / Leica M8 sensor camera for £45   
    I miss Ming a lot, the guy is brilliant. But now he have a very well respected watch company, only shoots for some clients and (of course) all the media for his watch company.

    https://www.ming.watch/
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro reacted to Andrew Reid in New L-Mount Lumix (cinema?) Camera   
    I think it's OnSemi.
    They are ARRI's partner on the new ALEXA sensor.
    TowerJazz had / have a joint venture with Panasonic, but OnSemi make the more up-to-date sensor tech and there are quite a few parallels between the ALEXA sensor readout tech and latest Panasonic cameras.
    In 2022 Panasonic exited the semiconductors business and sold all the assets. The organic sensor project is official dead, but it allowed them to partner with more than just Sony for sensors.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from sanveer in Mirrorless cameras with personality   
    Still have my LX100 OG, only will part ways when I get a MK II with a price that I don't have to sell a kidney. Panasonic is so dumb, just upgrade to the 25mp sensor (would be a 20mp camera), put a decent EVF (leica already done it in the D-Lux 8 ) and PDAF. Even IBIS could be forgotten (the lens have a ok-ish OIS). WOuld be a instant hit.

    Would say my Fujifilm S5Pro, but is a DSLR. Best skin colors ever.

    And my Olympus X-A1 (it don't have a mirror 🙂 ). Cute as hell, great image and one of the most thinking outside of the box cameras ever.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from alsoandrew in New L-Mount Lumix (cinema?) Camera   
    They could got a flood of new customers just bringing the camera that all non-professional customers are looking now: a compact stylish camera. Basically, a FF GX9.

    They launched it, but without EVF, hotshoe, mechanical shutter and proper controls. And the worst kit lens ever made. I know, they want to get in the video creator bandwagon, but was a niche product.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from OliveOliveOlive in Anyone with a Panasonic S5 II or S9 interested in testing my in-cam ARRI compatible LOG C3 profile?   
    Call it ARRIBA, impossible to sound less Germany. Lawsuit avoided. 😃
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from Davide DB in PC build for editing | davinci resolve   
    Just passed through this, and my 2 cents:

    - If you work professionally, go Mac (and yeah, I'm a windows guy). Even a M1, for video editing, run circles around any price comparable WIndows machine.
    - If you are not a professional and/or Apple costs 2,5x more in your country than in US (my case are both), Windows is still good.

    But there is a VERY important point the narrowed a lot my choices, and a lot of people doeas not realize it until is very late - codecs and chroma subsampling support. If you want to edit without proxies, is a must have feature.

    What H.264 and H.265 Hardware Decoding is Supported in DaVinci Resolve Studio?

    If you work with h.264, bad luck: only 8-but 4:2:0, except if you get an RTX 5xxx series.

    If you use H.265, you have better support, but pay attention to the subsampling - the 4070 (and all the RTX 4xxx) does not decode 10 bit 4:2:2. This was my case, and that narrowed my choices (when I did the upgrade, the RTX 5xxx were not launched).

    I had to buy a Intel non-f CPU (as you) to use the internal GPU enabled just to use Quicksync for decode. For encoding, I did not found a comparable table like this, but since almost all reviews test the encoding (rendering) part, is just to look for the desired card.

    Ryzens are much more performant (and chepear to build, specially motherboards) but have almost nothing decode support in the iGpus. But a Ryzen with a RTX5xxx card, or an Intel ARC Card would be a choice for me nowadays.

    In my case, since the money was short, went for a i5-12600k (for good decoding for editing) and a RTX 3060 with 12gb (was better than the 4060 for because of 12gb instead of 8gb - and since I have not hurries for rendering, top performance in rendering was not a problem). Works with Fuji open gate 6.2k in 10-bit 4:2:2 as champ, albeit I only do minor corrections - with a lot of effects it could not be the case.

    But I saw a guy that made a system with a top i9 processor anda a 4090, but when tried to edit 4:2:2 10-bit, it was slow as hell.

    But probably was the last PC that I put together - I built all my computer since the 286 days. The new Mac Mini is a steal - for video, is better than a PC costing double the price of the Mac Mini.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from zerocool22 in PC build for editing | davinci resolve   
    Just passed through this, and my 2 cents:

    - If you work professionally, go Mac (and yeah, I'm a windows guy). Even a M1, for video editing, run circles around any price comparable WIndows machine.
    - If you are not a professional and/or Apple costs 2,5x more in your country than in US (my case are both), Windows is still good.

    But there is a VERY important point the narrowed a lot my choices, and a lot of people doeas not realize it until is very late - codecs and chroma subsampling support. If you want to edit without proxies, is a must have feature.

    What H.264 and H.265 Hardware Decoding is Supported in DaVinci Resolve Studio?

    If you work with h.264, bad luck: only 8-but 4:2:0, except if you get an RTX 5xxx series.

    If you use H.265, you have better support, but pay attention to the subsampling - the 4070 (and all the RTX 4xxx) does not decode 10 bit 4:2:2. This was my case, and that narrowed my choices (when I did the upgrade, the RTX 5xxx were not launched).

    I had to buy a Intel non-f CPU (as you) to use the internal GPU enabled just to use Quicksync for decode. For encoding, I did not found a comparable table like this, but since almost all reviews test the encoding (rendering) part, is just to look for the desired card.

    Ryzens are much more performant (and chepear to build, specially motherboards) but have almost nothing decode support in the iGpus. But a Ryzen with a RTX5xxx card, or an Intel ARC Card would be a choice for me nowadays.

    In my case, since the money was short, went for a i5-12600k (for good decoding for editing) and a RTX 3060 with 12gb (was better than the 4060 for because of 12gb instead of 8gb - and since I have not hurries for rendering, top performance in rendering was not a problem). Works with Fuji open gate 6.2k in 10-bit 4:2:2 as champ, albeit I only do minor corrections - with a lot of effects it could not be the case.

    But I saw a guy that made a system with a top i9 processor anda a 4090, but when tried to edit 4:2:2 10-bit, it was slow as hell.

    But probably was the last PC that I put together - I built all my computer since the 286 days. The new Mac Mini is a steal - for video, is better than a PC costing double the price of the Mac Mini.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from Emanuel in DJI Pocket 3?   
    This firmware was released some time ago, and I already used a lot the 40mm zoom mode. Yes, there is almost no drop on image quality - only "problem" is that it only works in the Normal color profile, don't work with Log.

    Did not tested the breathing compensation, but from the reviews that I saw, it works really well.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from eatstoomuchjam in DJI Pocket 3?   
    This firmware was released some time ago, and I already used a lot the 40mm zoom mode. Yes, there is almost no drop on image quality - only "problem" is that it only works in the Normal color profile, don't work with Log.

    Did not tested the breathing compensation, but from the reviews that I saw, it works really well.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro reacted to BTM_Pix in Our "ally" in the USA just bazooka'd the UK film industry   
    Does this mean that those specialist art films his wife made back in the old country will now have a 100% tariff ?
     
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro reacted to Ilkka Nissila in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    I think it's not clear whether the MAGA politicians are rational or not. Clearly, many of them know little about the government of states, which explains why there is so much fumbling about and obvious mistakes and unintended consequences. However, it's clear that Trump is a con artist. He is using the power of the presidency for personal gain. Just now there are videos showing how Trump is bragging about how he and his friends made a lot of money by taking advantage of the stock market fluctuations caused by Trump's tariffs (being turned on and off).  This is entirely rational behavior from a con artist and a narcissist. He's got the all-clear from the Supreme Court that he can't be held responsible for his official actions as president in court. Congress could still hold him responsible (impeachment), and the people maybe can (if there are free elections in the future) but it could very well happen that he gets away with it, and he's old enough that even if he does go into prison, he wouldn't be there for a long time.
     
    Tariff wars tend to be followed by actual wars where people die. That's why the EU was founded, by removing tariffs between European states, it was thought that wars between the states can be avoided, which has been the case so far. However, for Trump, the tariffs are just a means towards personal enrichment (and his friends' enrichment), plus getting a lot of personal attention in the media that he craves.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro reacted to Andrew Reid in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    And the centre-left parties are letting it spread and enabling it.
    A lot of people are stupid, but a lot of them just feel that the traditional career politicians don't speak for them.
    Then we have 4 or 5 years of this or that liberal party in power and nothing changes.
    Where is Kamala Harris now?
    How do you lose to a fucking convicted felon? How useless do you have to be?
    The democrats are now holding little signs up in congress!
    What is that achieving?
    You can't play diplomacy games with a fascist thug.
    It's one of the reasons Putin is so powerful, he had half of them round his little finger, whilst Russian influence & money was deeply embedded in western society.
    The only way you remove a fascist dictator or a mafia from power is violence.
    The US might be about to find that out at the next election.
    In the meantime, this China trade-war is really ramping up towards a possible armed conflict, and not a lot of Trump voters realise the seriousness of what he's started.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro reacted to Emanuel in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    Yes indeed, but mainstream politicians also have their dosis to blame. When they don't do their job, opportunists or radical ones easily pop up... Ideology can be dangerous but no less, ineptitude or lack of competence. André Ventura is very talented as I had the chance to change ideas with Francisco Louçã a week ago... This left-wing politician even agreed with me. We who love a free society we are in big trouble to say the least TBH.
    Here is his opinion aired on national TV on XIX century Trump's tariffs next day of our long conversation me and him in person of about one hour or so the day before... Louçã is also a reputable economics professor at the university, he explains how these nonsense tariffs have no logic at all... in Portuguese though to those who know the language, you can follow his interesting criticism, pity that White House economists are dumb or too subservient, to not call it 'moron' and 'dumber than a sack of bricks' as even Musk did. Louçã refers how USD is falling despite what could be expected from:
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1032490332104272
    Former London-based and City University London graduate Catarina Castro (and talented right-wing economist no less) is there too and tries to contradict him but ends to fail the argument that Trump's plan is the dollar down because of the debt. 
    It's just pure markets' fear, folks! 
    And that's actually scaring... When inflation and uncertainty enter the things cannot end well for no one. 
    The orange man is placing that on hold for 90 days for some reason and Musk has called Peter Navarro of those significant gross names definitely not for no reason...
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from tigerbengal in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    And about Europe...it is not so far away from the USA insanity as it might appear.

    The Le Pens got very close to govern France. The far-right is making inroads on Germany. @Emanuelcould talk about the Andre's Ventura "Chega" party on Portugal. Orbán is already in charge on Hungary, as Erdogan in Turkey. Millei (an idiot as crazy as Trump, or worse) is in charge of Argentina - with 55% below the poverty line. And I already talked about Brazil.

    The far-right is a world cancer now.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from Thpriest in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    And about Europe...it is not so far away from the USA insanity as it might appear.

    The Le Pens got very close to govern France. The far-right is making inroads on Germany. @Emanuelcould talk about the Andre's Ventura "Chega" party on Portugal. Orbán is already in charge on Hungary, as Erdogan in Turkey. Millei (an idiot as crazy as Trump, or worse) is in charge of Argentina - with 55% below the poverty line. And I already talked about Brazil.

    The far-right is a world cancer now.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from tigerbengal in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    Nope, they won´t. If social media does not become regulated and co-reponsible for the content they publish, they won't.

    He had our Trump here in Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro. He blocked the Covid vaccines for months - Pfizer offered their vaccines for a very low price as soon as it was approved, because they wanted to use Brazil as an example. They sent 101 emails (yep) for all the authorities, NONE had an answer. A congressional investigation after discovered that it was blocked because some of their allies were trying to put some intermediates on vaccines to profit around US$1 per dose.

    More than 700.000 people died in Brazil because of Covid. A father of a friend and a grandmother of another friend between them, both very healthy, more than 5 months after the Pfizer offer. They probably be alive today.

    Bolsonaro even tried a coup - in the election day, he sent the federal road police to make blockades "for safety" - but only in places that he was in a major advantage, to try to block people to get to local vote places. In Jan 8th 2023, they incited people to broke into all the major institutions, a version of the USA's Jan 6th; but here it was like the White House, The Capitol and the Supreme Court were invaded and destroyed. It was a plan to force the new president to call the military forces - than the militaries would depose the new government.

    With some luck, the riot was dissolved, a investigation was opened, an a lot of coup plans were discovered - as with Trump, their allies and dumbfucks lunatics, and coup plans were found handwritten over their desks...plans that included killing the current president, the vice-president and one Supreme Court judge. They tried to explode a gasoline truck in front of the Brasilia airport in the Christmas Eve, since it was full of people.

    They are prosecuted now, and probably will go to jail (in factm, probably Bolsonaro will fly to Argentina or USA to not be arrested).

    And even with all this, around 35 to 38% of the population would vote for him.

    Because a majority of Brazil's population are permanently addicted to social media. Almost all of these 38% reads nothing else than far-right channels in Whatsapp and Telegram - they are bombarded so much by fake news that they believe in no one more than these info. Like Q'Anon guys.

    I have relatives, that were (and in a good part stills) some of the most honest and caring people that I know, and they firmly believe than now we live in a dictartorship that only Bolsonaro could destroy. That China will invade Brazil through Uruguay. That Bill Gates patented the Covid virus. All bombarded by social media.

    If I put a video with some copywrighted music in Youtube, in less than a minute I receive a warning. A FUCKING MUSIC - much more hard to pinpoint than words or images. Don't try to convince me that they cannot spot fake news on the fly.

    But they will not be accountable. And the consequences will be VERY bad - because USA will be hit with a massive reccession, but the far right will say that other countries, or the immigrants, or ANYHTING stupid are the real culprits, and these people will believe.

    And I see no easy outcome for this.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from eatstoomuchjam in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    Kinda.

    Twitter was closed for some time here because the Baby Spreader owner dismissed the local Twitter legal representatives, and by local laws, no enterprisde here could work with a legal representative. Nothing to do with fake news.

    Starlink was not cancelled - the Superme Court here blocked Starlink's local assets to pay the fines that Twitter took for (in this case, yes) not giving the law data from some users involved in nazi stuff (including some kids that performes school shootings). The fines were paid and their assets were returned.

    Twitter is not much of a problem here - the fake news trends are made there, but the spreading is done using Whatsapp and Telegram groups - closed groups, which cannot be accessed by the law if the owner of the site does not allow to.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from Thpriest in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    Nope, they won´t. If social media does not become regulated and co-reponsible for the content they publish, they won't.

    He had our Trump here in Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro. He blocked the Covid vaccines for months - Pfizer offered their vaccines for a very low price as soon as it was approved, because they wanted to use Brazil as an example. They sent 101 emails (yep) for all the authorities, NONE had an answer. A congressional investigation after discovered that it was blocked because some of their allies were trying to put some intermediates on vaccines to profit around US$1 per dose.

    More than 700.000 people died in Brazil because of Covid. A father of a friend and a grandmother of another friend between them, both very healthy, more than 5 months after the Pfizer offer. They probably be alive today.

    Bolsonaro even tried a coup - in the election day, he sent the federal road police to make blockades "for safety" - but only in places that he was in a major advantage, to try to block people to get to local vote places. In Jan 8th 2023, they incited people to broke into all the major institutions, a version of the USA's Jan 6th; but here it was like the White House, The Capitol and the Supreme Court were invaded and destroyed. It was a plan to force the new president to call the military forces - than the militaries would depose the new government.

    With some luck, the riot was dissolved, a investigation was opened, an a lot of coup plans were discovered - as with Trump, their allies and dumbfucks lunatics, and coup plans were found handwritten over their desks...plans that included killing the current president, the vice-president and one Supreme Court judge. They tried to explode a gasoline truck in front of the Brasilia airport in the Christmas Eve, since it was full of people.

    They are prosecuted now, and probably will go to jail (in factm, probably Bolsonaro will fly to Argentina or USA to not be arrested).

    And even with all this, around 35 to 38% of the population would vote for him.

    Because a majority of Brazil's population are permanently addicted to social media. Almost all of these 38% reads nothing else than far-right channels in Whatsapp and Telegram - they are bombarded so much by fake news that they believe in no one more than these info. Like Q'Anon guys.

    I have relatives, that were (and in a good part stills) some of the most honest and caring people that I know, and they firmly believe than now we live in a dictartorship that only Bolsonaro could destroy. That China will invade Brazil through Uruguay. That Bill Gates patented the Covid virus. All bombarded by social media.

    If I put a video with some copywrighted music in Youtube, in less than a minute I receive a warning. A FUCKING MUSIC - much more hard to pinpoint than words or images. Don't try to convince me that they cannot spot fake news on the fly.

    But they will not be accountable. And the consequences will be VERY bad - because USA will be hit with a massive reccession, but the far right will say that other countries, or the immigrants, or ANYHTING stupid are the real culprits, and these people will believe.

    And I see no easy outcome for this.
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    Marcio Kabke Pinheiro got a reaction from eatstoomuchjam in New US camera import tariffs - 25-50%   
    Nope, they won´t. If social media does not become regulated and co-reponsible for the content they publish, they won't.

    He had our Trump here in Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro. He blocked the Covid vaccines for months - Pfizer offered their vaccines for a very low price as soon as it was approved, because they wanted to use Brazil as an example. They sent 101 emails (yep) for all the authorities, NONE had an answer. A congressional investigation after discovered that it was blocked because some of their allies were trying to put some intermediates on vaccines to profit around US$1 per dose.

    More than 700.000 people died in Brazil because of Covid. A father of a friend and a grandmother of another friend between them, both very healthy, more than 5 months after the Pfizer offer. They probably be alive today.

    Bolsonaro even tried a coup - in the election day, he sent the federal road police to make blockades "for safety" - but only in places that he was in a major advantage, to try to block people to get to local vote places. In Jan 8th 2023, they incited people to broke into all the major institutions, a version of the USA's Jan 6th; but here it was like the White House, The Capitol and the Supreme Court were invaded and destroyed. It was a plan to force the new president to call the military forces - than the militaries would depose the new government.

    With some luck, the riot was dissolved, a investigation was opened, an a lot of coup plans were discovered - as with Trump, their allies and dumbfucks lunatics, and coup plans were found handwritten over their desks...plans that included killing the current president, the vice-president and one Supreme Court judge. They tried to explode a gasoline truck in front of the Brasilia airport in the Christmas Eve, since it was full of people.

    They are prosecuted now, and probably will go to jail (in factm, probably Bolsonaro will fly to Argentina or USA to not be arrested).

    And even with all this, around 35 to 38% of the population would vote for him.

    Because a majority of Brazil's population are permanently addicted to social media. Almost all of these 38% reads nothing else than far-right channels in Whatsapp and Telegram - they are bombarded so much by fake news that they believe in no one more than these info. Like Q'Anon guys.

    I have relatives, that were (and in a good part stills) some of the most honest and caring people that I know, and they firmly believe than now we live in a dictartorship that only Bolsonaro could destroy. That China will invade Brazil through Uruguay. That Bill Gates patented the Covid virus. All bombarded by social media.

    If I put a video with some copywrighted music in Youtube, in less than a minute I receive a warning. A FUCKING MUSIC - much more hard to pinpoint than words or images. Don't try to convince me that they cannot spot fake news on the fly.

    But they will not be accountable. And the consequences will be VERY bad - because USA will be hit with a massive reccession, but the far right will say that other countries, or the immigrants, or ANYHTING stupid are the real culprits, and these people will believe.

    And I see no easy outcome for this.
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